Local One union boss blew the deal ..so says The NY POST — Page 3

"you seem to forget that the producers are born gamblers they love taking risk and being reward for it sometimes very highly .."

The producers are actually taking very little risk, most of the time it's the investors who are taking the risk, not the producers. The producers are only risking the investors money, not their own. In the case of the Producer/Theatre Owner the risk is even smaller, because they are guaranteed an income from the rental of the theatre itself, sort of like robbing Peter to pay Paul. The risk that the Producers take is that they might not be able to find investors for future productions, if a particular production fails to pay back the investor.

Very little if any has been heard from the actual investors in these shows about their feelings on the strike and of the actions of the Producers and the stagehands. I can't help but think that the investors might be feeling more than just a little resentment that the League is playing fast and loose with their investments. How can you justify letting negotiations break-down to a group of people who put a great deal of money up for the Producers to use to mount the productions and a great deal of faith in those Producers that their money would be handled wisely.

Ending negotiations is not wise and continuing a strike or lockout is not in anyway a prudent way to treat the investors. As it stands, right now the investors entered into their investment agreements with the old rules in effect, and somehow saw fit to invest, knowing those risk.

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Updated On: 11/19/07 at 08:27 PM

"Localonecrew - any person with a modicum of intelligence will read your last diatribe, filled with the most specious name-calling, and know exactly what kind of person is posting. You "gain nothing with the name-calling other than making yourself look like a bullyboy who cannot post without sullying someone else - you've done it to me, and you've done it to others. You make some of the fourteen year olds on this site seem like mature reasoned individuals by comparison. Bravo to you. "

step one: i attempt to provide you with some information.

step two: you become insulting about it.

step three: i take you to task for being insulting when i am just trying to share some info that might help you understand what is going on.

step four: you take umbrage at being called out.



any others on this board that i have been rude to have either: been continuously dense and keep arguing something that has already been explained 1000 times, or have been insulting towards my profession, or have made defamatory remarks about my local while being ignorant of what it is we actually do.

I don't believe I'm the one who's been insulting - scroll back and read your post. And then go back to a few other threads and read your posts. Then read mine. I haven't called you a moron or any of the other names you used. And you are "explaining" things from your point of view. I'm listening, and also questioning because there is another point of view, not just yours. You are fooling no one other than yourself. And lest you forget, you played this incredibly childish game with me, which I, in retrospect, stupidly allowed you to play - and, of course, when I revealed who I was you just got more insulting and, typically, didn't reveal who you were in return and continued to post behind your cloak of anonymity, which I find as cowardly as it gets.

As I said, you may continue to bask in your bile and you may continue to call me a sock puppet for the League even though you know it not to be true. That marks you lousy, I'm afraid.

Localoneguy, all I know is that I'm not collecting a paycheck right now while many stagehands are being allowed to leave the picket line to work load-ins for other venues. (concerts, big events) It's great that Local One has the luxury of still bringing in a salary while forcing the rest of the people working on a broadway show to just wait it out with no pay.

However, I think striking is a dirty tactic, and in the end it does more harm than good. Why impact the entire city of NY just to prove a point?

If the past few days have shown anything, it's that the League is just as willing to shut down Broadway as Local One is--for all that the union was the first to make a drastic move, it's the League that's been threatening a lockout since October, the League that has just cancelled this week's performances, and the League that's locked the stagehands out of Grinch. So yeah, the work stoppage sucks, but I think both sides are equally to blame for that, and neither gives a damn how many tourists lose their tickets as long as they get to have their little pissing contest.

Bugmenot, the "assistance" doesn't even cover my rent.

I also agree that neither side cares about who else is being affected. Pray folks...pray.

> I also agree that neither side cares
> about who else is being affected.

believe me, the local one members care. I've already signed over half of my first strike benefit check to BC/EFA. I will probably sign over the other half to St Malachy's or somebody else in the neighborhood.

This has little to do with anything, but I had to post this cause it made me laugh. I called Murdoch a douche in this thread yesterday and then I read this on overheard in NY today.... Im not the only one who thinks he's a douche. lmao

Rupert Murdoch, at conference: If you wanted to stalk a young girl, it'd be much easier to do on Facebook than MySpace.
Conference attendee: Douche chill...

--Grand Hyatt Hotel

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Updated On: 11/20/07 at 11:01 AM

Margo - I agree. I don't understand it either. They really have to understand the impact of this situation and come up with a fair deal.

Massofmen - well said

just watch this claffey guy twist words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9ct9PvXjOw&feature=related

short wasnt looking for a good deal, he was looking to be able to say that he saved bway. remember, short is such a great union man that he told us to cross the musicians line when they were on strike. we of course didnt and he has hated us ever since.

localonecrew--

Well, specifically, what was so wrong about the offer Short approved of that Claffey rejected? It seemed like a great deal of progress had been made, but it still wasn't enough for him.

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