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ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
BroadwayBen
Broadway Star Joined: 6/5/03
#50ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/5/14 at 5:07pmI don't think there's any way to tell how they are doing until January. Every show needs a few weeks after it opens to find its marketing message and mix. And for the audience to participate in that mix.
broadwayguy2
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/18/03
#51ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/5/14 at 5:23pm42nd Street was a long running, beloved Broadway show making a big, splashy come back with glamorous visuals and a lot of visual bang for your buck, then rave reviews a great campaign... Among other things.
FishermanBob
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/9/12
#52ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/5/14 at 5:25pm
"The only exceptions were the relic sitting next to me griping about having to stand for The Star Spangled Banner (and ominously defying anyone to expect her to stand for it again) and her husband who kept wanting to check out sports scores - although said relic forbade him from any further discussion on it because she thought the show was a "success" and he was trodding on her evening."
And did you say hello to the Roxy's? At least she wasn't griping about Obamacare.
#53ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/5/14 at 5:32pmThe sad thing is, the marketing team has done everything right for this show. Just not enough interest I guess.
#54ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/5/14 at 5:54pm
When I go home to visit every housewife badgers me about seeing Jersey Boys.
If only they could understand what they're missing out on with On the Town.
#55ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/5/14 at 6:01pmI'm curious about why the discounts for this show currently all expire on November 23rd? I get that Thanksgiving week is probably a relatively easy sell at full price, but I'm planning a visit in the first week in December and there's no discount available for a Tuesday night? Ticketmaster seating shows hundreds of available seats. What might they be waiting for?
“It is suicide to be abroad. But what it is to be at home, ... what it is to be at home? A lingering dissolution.”
- Samuel Beckett, ALL THAT FALL
Baileyboo
Stand-by Joined: 7/28/09
#56ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/5/14 at 6:08pmNew wave of discounts will be coming soon. Hang in there.
#57ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/5/14 at 6:13pmthanks!
“It is suicide to be abroad. But what it is to be at home, ... what it is to be at home? A lingering dissolution.”
- Samuel Beckett, ALL THAT FALL
Rinaldo
Understudy Joined: 5/5/09
#58ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/5/14 at 6:25pmYeah, you can't fault them for wanting to sell SOME seats at full price if they can....
broadwayrocks2
Stand-by Joined: 1/10/08
#59ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/5/14 at 9:24pmThis show was originally slated for a small Shubert house. I think the lyceum. When Spidey closed they opted to move it there .mistake.
RippedMan
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/14/05
#60ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/6/14 at 1:20amHuh? The Lyceum to the Lyric? That makes zero sense. I'm pretty sure your sources are entirely wrong. They're doing the show with a full orchestra and cast. No one that they would fit anywhere else. I think it's a suitable theater, I just wish they had the visuals to match. It feels cheap. It's a great show, but there really isn't any "wow" moment that a Tourist would recommend to someone.
evic
Broadway Star Joined: 3/5/04
#61ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/6/14 at 11:08amNo wow factor? The dancing is the best on Broadway right now. And the sound of the orchestra is thrilling. I think it fits perfectly in the theater....but they can never fill all of the seats. I hope it makes it but today's audiences are just not interested.
#62ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/6/14 at 11:45pm
What about it eventually moving to a smaller theatre, rather than actually closing?
I saw it Saturday afternoon, and thought it was wonderful. I'd love to see it last long enough to get a Tony nominations boost. Surely it deserves something at least for choreography and Tony Yazbeck's performance.
#63ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/6/14 at 11:52pmMoving to another theatre is very expensive. Truthfully, if their weekly nut is around the 600,000 dollar mark, then the size of the theatre doesn't really matter. If it's doing poorly in a big house, it's not liable to do any better in a smaller one. If this show doesn't do well, it doesn't have much to do with the fact it's playing a huge theatre, but just because the public isn't interested.
I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.
#64ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/6/14 at 11:57pm
I'm sure the size of the cast and orchestra is a huge expense, too.
I remember Jerome Robbins Broadway, which was wonderful, simply couldn't make payroll.
Sad... these large delightful shows are dying out.
Updated On: 11/6/14 at 11:57 PM
Brian Song
Swing Joined: 11/15/10
#65ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/7/14 at 5:29pm
Oh my God Baileyboo, a NEW musical that's running at 58% capacity is NOT a success.
Although, I would agree it has nothing to do with the size of the theatre. It has to do with the fact that its a mediocre production and Rando's direction is appalling!
#66ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/7/14 at 5:33pm
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Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
#67ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/7/14 at 5:33pmI wonder if they will start to try & economize by reducing the size of the orchestra.
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Auggie27
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/13/03
#68ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/7/14 at 5:38pm
I keep watching the TV commercial (beautiful, tonally and otherwise, couldn't be better), and thinking in hard core marketing/ demographic terms: the show appeals to boomers over 60 (or 65), most of whom have either seen a revival or the film (on TV) and just don't have enough curiosity. Truthfully, the score's biggest fan base would likely be people in their 70s. People for whom the 1940s have some personal nostalgic appeal (and even there: those people would be in their 80s). Many posters loathe this sort of niche pigeonholing based on age, but a 40's musical about three sailors, even with iconic songs, isn't something people under a certain age will fork over $150 to see. This can't be an huge shock to anyone. Why is it?
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Updated On: 11/7/14 at 05:38 PM
Mr Roxy
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/17/03
#69ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/7/14 at 5:43pmBingo. You hit the nail on the head.
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Baileyboo
Stand-by Joined: 7/28/09
#70ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/7/14 at 5:59pm
Brian Song-
You obviously dislike the show, which is certainly legit. But the percentage of capacity has nothing to do with whether or not it is a "hit". If it were at the Helen HAyes, selling out every night, but having the exact same sales figures, it would be no more of a hit than it is now at Lyric. It's all about making money, and so far, and for the immediate future, there are no problems. The show will make it to Tony Nomination time easily, will pick up around 10 noms, quite possibly win Best Revival, and run an additional 12-18 months on the strength of that. I am sorry you don't like the show, but even you must admit that you are in the minority on this one.
#71ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/7/14 at 6:08pm
"The show will make it to Tony Nomination time easily, will pick up around 10 noms, quite possibly win Best Revival, and run an additional 12-18 months on the strength of that."
Why do you waste your psychic ability on Broadway shows?
#72ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/7/14 at 6:19pm
"But the percentage of capacity has nothing to do with whether or not it is a "hit". If it were at the Helen HAyes, selling out every night, but having the exact same sales figures, it would be no more of a hit than it is now at Lyric."
I don't completely agree. There are advantageous to selling out a smaller theatre compared to half-filling a barn (i.e., they aren't necessarily equal):
* The rent of the smaller theatre is likely cheaper
* Selling out generates hype/buzz/word-of-mouth both outside and inside the theatre. Nothing sucks the atmosphere out of a theatre faster than a dead or empty audience, in my opinion
I don't think On the Town is necessarily doomed but it may be in trouble. Let's wait and see.
"You can't overrate Bernadette Peters. She is such a genius. There's a moment in "Too Many Mornings" and Bernadette doing 'I wore green the last time' - It's a voice that is just already given up - it is so sorrowful. Tragic. You can see from that moment the show is going to be headed into such dark territory and it hinges on this tiny throwaway moment of the voice." - Ben Brantley (2022)
"Bernadette's whole, stunning performance [as Rose in Gypsy] galvanized the actors capable of letting loose with her. Bernadette's Rose did take its rightful place, but too late, and unseen by too many who should have seen it" Arthur Laurents (2009)
"Sondheim's own favorite star performances? [Bernadette] Peters in ''Sunday in the Park,'' Lansbury in ''Sweeney Todd'' and ''obviously, Ethel was thrilling in 'Gypsy.'' Nytimes, 2000
Updated On: 11/7/14 at 06:19 PM
Baileyboo
Stand-by Joined: 7/28/09
#73ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/7/14 at 6:23pmHaterobics- 30 years in the business. Not psychic ability. I've seen it all before.
#74ON THE TOWN Box Office Yikes!
Posted: 11/7/14 at 10:06pmIf being in the business meant being able to predict shows that would run a long time and not close early, etc., wouldn't all shows by now stay open a long time and not close, since industry veterans could just sort that all out in advance? Seems like it would save a lot of time, money, and heartache...
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