OUTER CRITICS CIRCLE AWARDS 2017- Page 3

[bdn223]

Posted: 4/25/17 at 12:45pm

I wonder if Groban and Denton pulled their names from consideration like J Robert Spencer did in 2009 for Next to Normal.

I am also surpised Comet's producer's didnt try to get it deemed a "revival" for the OCC and Drama Desk Awards, considering is a completely reconcieved production and was in consideration for "New Musical" 4 seasons ago. 

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 4/25/17 at 12:50pm

Butter Broadway said: "But I don't think it's hard to see Bronx Tale getting Tony love. It's doing well at the box office, got a NYT critics pick, and Alan Menken wrote it. 

"

If Bronx Tale gets Tony love, I'll be very disappointed. Save for Nick Cordero and maybe the sets, I found it to be completely forgettable. 

[BroadwayGuy12]

Posted: 4/25/17 at 1:05pm

IdinaBellFoster said: "The Foster snub would bother me less if they hadn't nominated Hensely."

This 100%. When I saw that he was nominated, I scrolled back up to the Actress in a Musical nominees because I thought I must have missed her name.

[Sauja]

Posted: 4/25/17 at 1:14pm

icecreambenjamin said: "I didn't see Sutton Foster nominated for Lead Actress in Sweet Charity.  Anyone know what happened there?"

 

My bet is that they saw her performance. 

 

[Sauja]

Posted: 4/25/17 at 1:21pm

Sorry--my last response was pretty bitchy. I think Sutton's great, but I despised that staging of Sweet Charity and thought that the director did her precisely zero favors (nor did the costume or wig designers). Hensley was the only part of that production I found tolerable, so I'm not surprised to see him get in over her. She's been much, MUCH better many, MANY times before. 

[EvanK]

Posted: 4/25/17 at 1:55pm

Very happy for Jenn Colella. 

[bjh2114]

Posted: 4/25/17 at 2:27pm

Given that Shuffle Along was eligible, I'm a little disappointed that it wasn't nominated for Best Musical while A Bronx Tale was.

[RaisedOnMusicals]

Posted: 4/25/17 at 2:44pm

Speaking of The Band's Visit, which I missed at the Atlantic--I heard that they are seriously considering a Broadway transfer for the 2017-18 season. Does anyone think that this can be successful in a Broadway house, even if it's one of the smaller theaters? It's virtually assured of great reviews, based on the raves it got from almost all of the NY critics (including Ben).

[LMcC95]

Posted: 4/25/17 at 2:51pm

Am I the only one who is shocked that Cate Blanchett did not get a nomination?

[Robbie2]

Posted: 4/25/17 at 3:23pm

Skimbleshanks2 said: "Will ANDY KARL win??

 

YES!

"

 

[Robbie2]

Posted: 4/25/17 at 3:28pm

bjh2114 said: "Given that Shuffle Along was eligible, I'm a little disappointed that it wasn't nominated for Best Musical while A Bronx Tale was.

 

"True, Shuffle was far superior to Anastasia, A Bronx Tale and Holiday Inn!

Shuffle Along should WIN Choreography!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtMKquSqBko

 

 

Updated On: 4/25/17 at 03:28 PM

[SNAFU]

Posted: 4/25/17 at 8:52pm

what bothers me with these awards is that they nominate Broadway and Off Broadway shows together. I mean seriously how is Finian's Rainbow going to compete with the big budget Broadway revivals?

[bjh2114]

Posted: 4/25/17 at 10:01pm

SNAFU said: "what bothers me with these awards is that they nominate Broadway and Off Broadway shows together. I mean seriously how is Finian's Rainbow going to compete with the big budget Broadway revivals?"

Because honestly with the exception of Hello Dolly, Finian's was better than all of those revivals.

[Wayman_Wong]

Posted: 4/25/17 at 11:48pm

''I wonder if Groban and Denton pulled their names from consideration.''

The Outer Critics did consider Groban and Denton, but 5 other contenders got more votes in their respective categories.

''What bothers me with these awards is that they nominate Broadway and Off Broadway shows together.''

This has been happening for years and years and years, especially moreso at the Drama Desks. At least, the Outer Critics have separate categories for New Broadway Musical and New Off-Broadway Musical, as well as New Broadway Play and New Off-Broadway Play.

By the way, ''Sunday in the Park With George'' specifically asked NOT to be considered awards, so it wasn't. But oddly, even though ''Sweeney Todd'' (like ''Sunday'' ) did not invite the general membership of the Outer Critics Circle or the Drama Desk, I'm told that ''Sweeney'' did ask to be considered for awards, so they put in the OCC nominators. However, the OCC nominators did not consider the British leads of ''Sweeney'' for prizes because the OCC members were never given the chance to see them.

Updated On: 4/25/17 at 11:48 PM

[djoko84]

Posted: 4/26/17 at 7:04am

RaisedOnMusicals said: "Speaking of The Band's Visit, which I missed at the Atlantic--I heard that they are seriously considering a Broadway transfer for the 2017-18 season. Does anyone think that this can be successful in a Broadway house, even if it's one of the smaller theaters? It's virtually assured of great reviews, based on the raves it got from almost all of the NY critics (including Ben).

 

"

I'm almost positive it is transferring. I did a survey by a Broadway site asking my opinion on possible posters for The Band's Visit and two other shows. I was asked what I liked, didn't like, and how the posters made me feel. Obviously, they're gearing up for a Broadway run.

[djoko84]

Posted: 4/26/17 at 7:22am

Why are people taking these seriously?? If you read this article, you would see the Outer Critics only have an average in the mid-60% range of translating to Tony nominations. That's awful overlap.

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Outer-Critics-Circle-Awards-Nominees--What-It-All-Means-for-the-2017-Tony-Awards-20170425

[Skimbleshanks2]

Posted: 4/26/17 at 7:48am

Robbie2 said: "Skimbleshanks2 said: "Will ANDY KARL win??

 

YES!

 

"

Yasss. Gotta get in all my awards excitement now before ANDY gets steamrolled by BEN PLATT at the TONYs LOL...

[Ado Annie D'Ysquith]

Posted: 4/26/17 at 11:02am

I completely missed Jenn Colella on the nominee list! Wow. These awards may not be a good indicator of Tony likelihood, but I'm really happy for my "BroadwayCon mentor" nonetheless.

[adamgreer]

Posted: 4/26/17 at 11:48am

Remember, Anastasia fans, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang once topped these nominations. 

[SNAFU]

Posted: 4/26/17 at 11:54am

Yes bjh2114, it was, however it is no longer running so voters will not have a chance to see it. Too many times I have seen unworthy shows win just because of their commercial value and not so much their artistry.

 

[bjh2114]

Posted: 4/26/17 at 2:14pm

SNAFU said: "Yes bjh2114, it was, however it is no longer running so voters will not have a chance to see it. Too many times I have seen unworthy shows win just because of their commercial value and not so much their artistry."

This is the Outer Critics Circle.  It's made up of critics, all of whom would have seen the show when it ran.  We're not talking Tony voters here.

[newintown]

Posted: 4/26/17 at 2:25pm

djoko84 asked "Why are people taking these seriously??"

That's an easy one - because a LOT of people think that all entertainment awards are the be-all and end-all, and focus on them with a mania akin to that of sports fans.

[Wayman_Wong]

Posted: 4/27/17 at 12:51am

It's the same whining, year in, year out, about the Outer Critics nominations. Or the Drama Desk nominations. If you don't feel they have any credibility, why pay attention to them whatsoever? The job of the Outer Critics nominators (8 in all) is to reflect THEIR tastes, not yours. Nor is it their job to second-guess the Tony nominations.

If your criteria in judging awards is whether they're predictive of actual Tony wins, how about the BroadwayWorld.com Awards? They're voted on ''hundreds of thousands of theatergoers,'' and the results are '''visible and audited.'' As I noted on the other Outer Critics thread, ''Allegiance'' swept the musical acting awards (Leung, Salonga, Takei and Clarke). But the Tonys skunked ''Allegiance.''  And Jessica Lange was the only BWW-winning actress in a play to also score a Tony. This track record sound worse than the Outer Critics.

Updated On: 4/27/17 at 12:51 AM

[Robbie2]

Posted: 5/26/17 at 6:09pm

Outer Critics Circle Theatre Awards

[Wayman_Wong]

Posted: 5/27/17 at 1:06pm

Playbill.com has posted Harry Haun's report about the Outer Critics Awards, and he includes many of Bette Midler's comical and colorful comments from her acceptance speech as Best Actress in a Musical:

“Thank you to the Outer Critics Circle, you magnificent people,” she gushed. “You’re so humane, telling us who’s getting the award in advance so we don’t have to get dressed and show up, only to lose. This is so nice. And you held the event right across the street from the Shubert Theatre where I’m holding forth every night.  Nearly every night—let’s not go there. It’s my kind of ceremony.

“Oh, boy! This is the hardest job I’ve ever had in my whole life—not just accepting the award but this is for a few people on Broadway. You people are nuts! I’ve never encountered people who worked so hard and are still kinda cheerful about it. I mean, I’m whining all the way to the bank. I’ve never had to work this hard. It hurts. I have acid reflux. Oh, my God! The clothes are so tight. Thank you, Santo.”

For more comments from fellow OCC winners Laura Linney, Gavin Creel, Jenn Colella and more, click onto the link to Haun's full story:

http://www.playbill.com/article/bette-midler-stops-the-show-at-the-outer-critics-circle-awards

Updated On: 5/27/17 at 01:06 PM