Official 2017 TONY Nominations Thread — Page 6

Kinda disappointed that The Play That Goes Wrong only walked away with one tech nomination. I thought, at the very least, it would sneak in for Best Play.

On the other hand, though, The one nomination they do have is in a category where a lot of people have predicted they'll win

Dane F said: "Kinda disappointed that The Play That Goes Wrong only walked away with one tech nomination. I thought, at the very least, it would sneak in for Best Play.

On the other hand, though, The one nomination they do have is in a category where a lot of people have predicted they'll win




"I'm with you too. It's so difficult in a year of strong dramatic plays for a comedy to get noticed, but I also think a lot of people underestimate the difficulty that goes into creating a truly great comedy. IMHO, tougher than drama (but that's subjective and debatable I know). TPTGW hit on all cylinders for me - beyond what I expected - and we needed it desperately this year. But kudos to the plays that made it in - just wish they'd lightened it up a bit (even Oh Hello! would have made me happy but that was not as complex overall as TPTGW).

BroadwayConcierge said: "Agreed, Dane, I thought TPTGW deserved more. But let's hope they'll be able to win that Scenic Design one... I think they have a very serious shot at it!



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I feel like it'll get some competition from The Front Page, but as I said, it's honestly got a good shot of winning.

Also Josh Groban over Jon Jon Briones? I don't think so! I hate the political games the Tony committee plays because someone is a celebrity.

Well, there was one consideration I thought that could hinder Jon Jon for a nomination, though it's a technicality and an odd case, Jon Jon has been playing the role for over a decade. Because it was his first time playing it on Broadway made him eligible, but it could have been something floating in the backs of voters' minds. Not saying it's true or even fair, but it definitely crossed my mind. But honestly, Groban was eligible for leading and his reviews were strong, so it's no big surprise. Personally, I probably would have gone with Briones over Hyde Pierce or perhaps even Borle. It's just a really strong season.

The biggest WTF for me is Mary Beth Peil for Anastasia. I love her, but it's not a strong role or even particularly memorable. I'm shocked it didn't go to Brittain Ashford or Amber Gray.

No best score for War Paint is really odd. "PINK" is quite a fantastic song.

Pink is a fantastic song. But it's the only song I found memorable in the score, so I'm not surprised it didn't get a nomination.

I totally forgot about A Bronx Tale.

Who doesn't?

It's so difficult in a year of strong dramatic plays for a comedy to get noticed, but I also think a lot of people underestimate the difficulty that goes into creating a truly great comedy.

Or recreating a truly great comedy in this case. And recreating the idea of turning it into a franchise as well. How nice for them!

Updated On: 5/2/17 at 10:27 AM

Dane F said: "Kinda disappointed that The Play That Goes Wrong only walked away with one tech nomination. I thought, at the very least, it would sneak in for Best Play.

On the other hand, though, The one nomination they do have is in a category where a lot of people have predicted they'll win"

The Tonys aren't necessarily averse to comedy, but even if you liked it it's hard not to see The Play That Goes Wrong as more of an extended comedy sketch and less of a play.

Watching you all trying to make up reasons and explanations as to why War Paint, Anastasia or Bandstand didn't get nominated is hilarious. At the end of the day, if any of them deserved to be nominated, they would have been. You all thought Groundhog Day may not make the cut, but it managed to. Not sure why that means another couldn't have, even if it is because of 3 votes.

Weren't only the new songs for Anastasia eligible for score (as with every other score that is a mix of old and new)? Without Journey to the Past and Once Upon a December there's a lot less reason to throw it a nomination.

I desperately loved War Paint and am sad it didn't get fifth slot expansions in some categories, but at least the leading ladies got nominated. Other than that the musical noms felt pretty good to me.

It's Gideon Glick I'm most surprised and sad about. He really, really deserved it.

wonderfulwizard11 said: "Dane F said: "Kinda disappointed that The Play That Goes Wrong only walked away with one tech nomination. I thought, at the very least, it would sneak in for Best Play.

On the other hand, though, The one nomination they do have is in a category where a lot of people have predicted they'll win"

The Tonys aren't necessarily averse to comedy, but even if you liked it it's hard not to see The Play That Goes Wrong as more of an extended comedy sketch and less of a play.



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Definitely a fair point. Compared to the plays that *did* get nominated for Best Play, I can see where the Tony voters would want to honor the gripping dramas over the silly slapstick farce.

Statistically speaking the musical with the most nominations more often then not wins best musical. Dear Evan Hansen was shut out of most of the technical categories and unlike the Play categories which are usually spread around amongst the productions, Best Musical is often a bandwagon effect. The best example of which was Once's surprise sweep of the technical awards at the 2012 awards. Add to that the common consensus on here is that Comet or Dolly will sweep/split the technical awards. Thus I find it hard to believe unless Hello Dolly turns this into this is a repeat of the 2008 Tony's or the Year of the Revival with South Pacific, that Comet ends the night with more Tony's but looses best musical to Dear Evan Hansen.

I will say though I could see this play out like 1998 where Ragtime (Dear Evan Hansen) the better musical on paper won book and score, but the better production Lion King (Comet) won best musical.

I'm glad Stephanie J. Block was nominated for Falsettos but I'm surprised there wasn't any attention for the featured ladies in Great Comet. Everyone is talking about Amber Gray (who I hope joins a Hadestown Broadway run) but Grace McLean could have gotten in there. Even Brittain though that would probably be harder as she really only has that one song.

Poor Anastasia. I wonder if it would have fared better if those songs hadn't been introduced in the movie. But then, they wouldn't have that built in fan base/name recognition. Interesting point that maybe Comet hurt it too. At least they got costumes, which do look gorgeous.

I'm surprised there was nothing for A Bronx Tale. I guess the season was too crowded.

All the love for Come From Away is wonderful for everyone involved but I still have no real desire to see it.

Do the shows that get nominated for Best Musical also always get Best Book and Best Score or is there sometimes some variation?

VotePeron wrote: "Watching you all trying to make up reasons and explanations as to why War Paint, Anastasia or Bandstand didn't get nominated is hilarious."

So true - why do people here have such a hard time understanding the simple fact that the members of the Nominating Committee (all of whom know the theatre and have worked in the theatre more than any poster here) might just have different values than yours?

And in a few years (or maybe months), almost everyone (of the few people that pay any attention at all) will have forgotten who won anyway.

newintown said: "VotePeron wrote: "Watching you all trying to make up reasons and explanations as to why War Paint, Anastasia or Bandstand didn't get nominated is hilarious."

So true - why do people here have such a hard time understanding the simple fact that the members of the Nominating Committee (all of whom know the theatre and have worked in the theatre more than any poster here) might just have different values than yours?

And in a few years (or maybe months), almost everyone (of the few people that pay any attention at all) will have forgotten who won anyway.



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Of course, Best Musical is really the only important award of the night, as it basically guarantees financial success for your show (I know there are lots of exceptions, but nowadays it's pretty surefire). Individual awards are important for the winners, of course, because it can be a good career boost or at least raises your stock in the industry.