Official 2017 TONY Nominations Thread
#150Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 1:22pm
I'd be interested to know how often the musical with the most nominations has NOT won Best Musical.
Short of googling each year's nomination news stories or counting manually on each Tony year's wiki page, does anyone know of a list of the show with the most nominations each year?
Margo319
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/15
#151Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 1:22pm
Absolutely thrilled for Come From Away and Falsettos. All four of them were nominated!!! God, every one of their performances was so brilliant, nuanced, so incredibly special. They all must be so happy today.
While I am sad about Amelie or A Bronx Tale getting nothing, they were not even on close to the same level to the shows that were nominated, in my view.
Congratulations to all that were nominated!!!
#152Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 1:53pm
If you search for each year's Tony nomination ANNOUNCEMENT (like the ones published today), many of them will list the number of nominations per show. I'm pretty sure BroadwayWorld always does it, so you might as well start there (since you're here anyway).
#153Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 1:58pm
Most recently, Fela! received 11 nominations but lost to Memphis, which received 8. An American in Paris also tied with Fun Home for most nods but lost.
MadsonMelo
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/24/14
#154Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 2:13pm
Avenue Q (Wicked), Jersey Boys (The Drowsy Chaperone) and Memphis (Fela!) won over musical with more nominations.
#155Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 2:25pm
WhizzerMarvin said: "Weren't only the new songs for Anastasia eligible for score (as with every other score that is a mix of old and new)? Without Journey to the Past and Once Upon a December there's a lot less reason to throw it a nomination. "
As long as over 50% of the music and/or lyrics are new, the entire score is eligible. That's why Alan Menken finally has his Tony, and that's why Howard Ashman was posthumously nominated with the other songwriters of Aladdin.
#156Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 2:36pm
Bandstand's nomination for orchestrations puzzles me with its lack of score nomination. Has it ever happened that a show has been nominated for orchestrations and not been nominated for best score or best musical, in the appropriate case, best revival? How is that judged? Maybe I don't understand?
#157Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 2:41pm
kade.ivy said: "Bandstand's nomination for orchestrations puzzles me with its lack of score nomination. Has it ever happened that a show has been nominated for orchestrations and not been nominated for best score or best musical, in the appropriate case, best revival? How is that judged? Maybe I don't understand?
I just checked, and it's pretty rare. The last time it happened with a production that wasn't nominated for best score but was eligible was 2011 with Catch Me If You Can, and before then was A Catered Affair in 2008.
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#158Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 2:42pm
kade.ivy said: "Bandstand's nomination for orchestrations puzzles me with its lack of score nomination. Has it ever happened that a show has been nominated for orchestrations and not been nominated for best score or best musical, in the appropriate case, best revival? How is that judged? Maybe I don't understand? "
Bombay Dreams in 2004 and LoveMusik in 2007 come to mind.
In my opinion, you can have outstanding orchestrations that enhance a not-so-outstanding score or production. In those cases, a sole nomination for Orchestrations is warranted. (I can't really speak for the cases in Tony history, I'm just speaking hypothetically.)
pupscotch
Broadway Star Joined: 1/24/16
#159Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 3:04pm
bdn223 said: "I will say though I could see this play out like 1998 where Ragtime (Dear Evan Hansen) the better musical on paper won book and score, but the better production Lion King (Comet) won best musical.
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I wish I could permanently end this thinking that Comet is not a strong musical on paper. Dave Malloy's score is brilliant, and just because it's not typical Broadway fare, which is the same with the entire show, it's seen as strange and inferior. I think Comet should win, and that it is both the more innovative artistic achievement and the stronger material. Alas, it will probably go to DEH.
froote
Broadway Star Joined: 2/14/17
#160Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 3:06pm
Agreed pupscotch. There's a big thread on this board debating all the issues with Dear Evan Hansen's book but Comet is the weak show on paper? Not sure how that works.
#161Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 3:11pm
froote said: "There's a big thread on this board debating all the issues with Dear Evan Hansen's book but Comet is the weak show on paper? Not sure how that works."
Exactly.
#162Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 3:35pm
AGHH I am so excited for Best Featured Actor in a Musical!! I feel like they should all win.
#163Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 3:43pm
Wait, this may be my awful hearing and vision, but does Significant Other have any nominations??
Liza's Headband
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/28/13
#165Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 3:52pm
Chicken_Flavor said: "Wait, this may be my awful hearing and vision, but does Significant Other have any nominations??
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Unfortunately no...I feel like holding on another week or two might have helped a bit. But then again, that whole strange closing announcement scenario where it went from July 2nd to April 23rd in a matter of days probably took what little stock it had out of play.
After Eight
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/5/09
#166Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 4:13pm
Well, looking at the foursome nominated for best musical, one can only exclaim, like William Bendix in The Life of Riley, "What a revoltin' development this is!"
Well, that's what you get when decade after decade, we are told that bad is wonderful, and enjoyable is deplorable.
As for the best play category, it looks like the powers-that-be rode to the rescue of the newest critics' darling. But then, they always do, don't they?
In a previous post, I referred to the whole trying exercise as arch.
It can now be called the triumphal arch.
#167Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 4:19pm
I'm happy that both LuPone and Ebersole were nominated and personally will just take these as tokens that reflect the quality of the wider production - they aren't performing in a vacuum and it's because of (not in spite of) the juicy characters, scenes and songs written for them that they were able to showcase some incredible talent.
Despite not attracting accolades the show's sales suggest it is resonating with its niche target audience well (a perfect ladies night out for older if slightly pretentious women :p). Hopefully if will come close to recouping its costs.
#168Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 4:37pm
Yes, I think you may be on to something here...and a staggering coincidence to Flaherty/Ahrens being "snubbed" [Ragtime/Anastasia]...
I don't understand. What is the staggering coincidence? Flaherty and Ahrens won for Ragtime. They also had three other Broadway musicals.
Well, that's what you get when decade after decade, we are told that bad is wonderful, and enjoyable is deplorable.
You're the only one stupid enough to say that.
#169Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 4:45pm
Very happy for Come From Away. Yez gotta believe buoys!
#170Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 5:22pm
I just walked by and Indecent already got this up, they didn't waste any time.
#171Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 6:07pm
What a waste! I thought Falsettos was terrible. Great show, lowsy production. But Brandon and Stephanie deserved their spots. The other two? No thanks. Hard pass. Would have rather seen lesser names be nominated.
#172Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 6:10pm
RippedMan said: "What a waste! I thought Falsettos was terrible. Great show, lowsy production. But Brandon and Stephanie deserved their spots. The other two? No thanks. Hard pass. Would have rather seen lesser names be nominated.
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O my, I disagree so strongly with this statement.
#173Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 6:37pm
Mister Matt said: "Yes, I think you may be on to something here...and a staggering coincidence to Flaherty/Ahrens being "snubbed" [Ragtime/Anastasia]...
I don't understand. What is the staggering coincidence? Flaherty and Ahrens won for Ragtime. They also had three other Broadway musicals.
Well, that's what you get when decade after decade, we are told that bad is wonderful, and enjoyable is deplorable.
You're the only one stupid enough to say that.
Well, MM, by that comparison I meant that a Flaherty/Ahrens show lost in the voting (Ragtime v/Lion King) as opposed to nominations today...I can understand how this would look liked a mixed comparison. (and where did all that deplorable sh*t come from)? But thank you for keeping track of me being "the only one stupid enough" to say that.
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carnzee
Broadway Star Joined: 9/2/11
#174Official TONY Nominations Thread
Posted: 5/2/17 at 6:47pm
Steve C., Mister Matt's "stupid "remark was (appropriately) directed to after eight.
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