Patti LuPone called a privileged, racially microaggressive bully by Hell's Kitchen cast member — Page 11

Also, curious, does anyone have more info on the warnings Box Office give on the volume of the show? Like, do they consistently, or to just older patrons, or?

binau said: "Ok, let me ask another way then: how can Patti comment on the objective sound levels of Hell's Kitchen without micro aggressing? Your response seems to suggest that it is not possible. It almost sounds like you're saying that Patti isn't even allowed to comment on objective reality inanyway without committing racist behaviour. Can't you see how mad that is?"

Annnnd you just poked a huge hole into the Robin DiAngelo brand of race relations. How dare you? You must be racist!

Seriously, it's the big problem I had with White Fragility. DiAngelo is so deferential to POC (especially one's with hair that she can fetishize!) that she can't fathom a scenario where a POC may be wrong or selfish or abusing notions of racism for personal gain. If a POC says it's racism, it's racism. Period. And literally anything one may say to unpack the accusation is proof positive of said racism (i.e. The Kafka Trap).

This should be obvious, but: It's a bad thing to make one group of people unquestionably right, even if they face having lived with racism, prejudice, and horrific historical precedent. We're seeing this right now in the Middle East and it ain't pretty.

Couple of weeks? This happened literally days ago...

verywellthensigh said: "Calling flowers bullying is not "any human emotion" but ok."

I think the saying goes: Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. The flowers were a "thank you for adjusting your show for us." None of you want to make space for Kecia not having to accept that apology. You just want her to shut her mouth and do her show so Patti and company can feel comfy. The comfort only works one way in this scenario. And that my friend is PRIVILEGE.

Updated On: 11/5/24 at 06:12 PM

Ensemble1698878795 said: "False. Actors have active communication with the sound designer to assure the balance on stage allows them to deliver the performance they've been asked to do. This is why Kecia and company are annoyed. They settled into a design that was potentially became different for them after months of doing a show."

You didn't counter my point? Actors and sound designers communicate, but actors do not control the sound. No one forced the HK sound designer/technician to make changes - they willingly agreed to a request. If the actors felt that the changes were causing problems and the sound designer/technician were unresponsive to that, that is an issue within the HK team.

Ensemble1698878795 said: "Only the HK team? Not Patti and Roommate team?"

As far as we know, the HK team was not under any obligation to make the requested changes. If the changes are causing problems, it is within the HK team's power to either refuse those changes or communicate with the cast to make adjustments that work for them.

CreatureKitchen said: "Ensemble1698878795 said: "Only the HK team? Not Patti and Roommate team?"

As far as we know, the HK team was not under any obligation to make the requested changes. If the changes are causing problems, it is within the HK team's power to either refuse those changes or communicate with the cast to make adjustments that work for them."

Wrong again. It is not in the power of HK. It's in the power of the theater owners, who Patti has in her back pocket and she knows it. Which is why she made a huge stink about AEA sucking, only to turn around and do a Broadway show as a "non-union" actor. Y'all can go back and forth with me all you want, but the woman breathes and walks through this industry with immerse privilege and because no one checks her she's never had to be confronted with it until now. Kecia knew this would be the only way Patti would be held accountable in any way.

Kad said: "Ensemble1698878795 said: "CreatureKitchen said: "Ensemble1698878795 said: "False. Actors have active communication with the sound designer to assure the balance on stage allows them to deliver the performance they've been asked to do. This is why Kecia and company are annoyed. They settled into a design that was potentially became different for them after months of doing a show."

You didn't counter my point? Actors and sound designers communicate, but actors do not control the sound. No one forced the HK sound designer/technician to make changes - they willingly agreed to a request. If the actors felt that the changes were causing problems and the sound designer/technician were unresponsive to that, that is an issue within the HK team."

Only the HK team? Not Patti and Roommate team? The issue is all on HK? Do you hear yourself? Can you for one moment put yourself in their shoes?"

Do you hear yourself? The theaters are connected and HK’s sound was bleeding into the Booth. Things like this happen and this is something that is easily remedied by adjusting the sound of the louder production. Why are you behaving as if LuPone called the cops on some kids playing loud music outside, or demanded the HK cast sing differently? These are professional productions in close proximity and one was interfering with the other. This has truly gotten absurd."

Wasn't Kimberly Akimbo open during HK? Were the same requests made? Or was the same sound design not bleeding then? It's only absurd because you can't see the privilege in her request.

Ensemble1698878795 said: "Kad said: "Ensemble1698878795 said: "CreatureKitchen said: "Ensemble1698878795 said: "False. Actors have active communication with the sound designer to assure the balance on stage allows them to deliver the performance they've been asked to do. This is why Kecia and company are annoyed. They settled into a design that was potentially became different for them after months of doing a show."

You didn't counter my point? Actors and sound designers communicate, but actors do not control the sound. No one forced the HK sound designer/technician to make changes - they willingly agreed to a request. If the actors felt that the changes were causing problems and the sound designer/technician were unresponsive to that, that is an issue within the HK team."

Only the HK team? Not Patti and Roommate team? The issue is all on HK? Do you hear yourself? Can you for one moment put yourself in their shoes?"

Do you hear yourself? The theaters are connected and HK’s sound was bleeding into the Booth. Things like this happen and this is something that is easily remedied by adjusting the sound of the louder production. Why are you behaving as if LuPone called the cops on some kids playing loud music outside, or demanded the HK cast sing differently? These are professional productions in close proximity and one was interfering with the other. This has truly gotten absurd."

Wasn't Kimberly Akimbo open during HK? Were the same requests made? Or was the same sound design not bleeding then?It's only absurd because you can't see theprivilege in her request."

We wouldn’t know because these requests and their accommodations are almost never made public knowledge.

Also, HK and KA only overlapped for a month before KA closed. If they had sound issues, it was a moot point.

CreatureKitchen said: "Ensemble1698878795 said: "Wrong again. It is not in the power of HK. It's in the power of the theater owners, who Patti has in her back pocket and she knows it."

What is your evidence that Patti has the theatre owners "in her back pocket"? If your narrative is that the theatre owners forced the HK team to make changes that were detrimental to the actors, it is on you to back that up.

Just because she is privileged does not mean she loses the right to raise a concern about something impacting her show."



It seems most people attend Broadway shows but seem oblivious to Broadway politics. Patti had her rights and Kecia Lewis has the full right to express herself the way she did. Full stop. Just because it doesn't coddle the majority of theater feelings doesn't mean there isn't validity inside her experience. I hope we get to a point in this country and industry that when POC speak on their experiences aloud, they aren't instantly told it's invalid. You all claim to champion inclusivity, but I'd take a deep look at your reactions here. They aren't inclusive. They are harmful and this board is a testament to why so many people don't share how they feel. They won't be believed. They'll be silenced.