Patti LuPone called a privileged, racially microaggressive bully by Hell's Kitchen cast member - Page 13

[CreatureKitchen]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 5:03pm

Let’s say you’re right and no black woman on Broadway has ever been listened to when making a reasonable request. You remedy that by fighting to have that privilege extended to them. Not by taking it away from others.

[The Distinctive Baritone]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 5:06pm

I can't believe this thread is still going, but I imagine a lot of it has to do with the election.

Here is my hot take (which I've said before, but that was before T**** got reelected): It is far left, "woke" nonsense like this whole Patti-Kecia debacle and the conversations it has sparked that makes conservatives hate us. The "I'm so oppressed by your microagression" whining, the anti-white racism (or whatever you want to call it), the constant in-fighting and inability to STFU. This whole friggin' thread encapsulates everything about us liberals that the right sees as obnoxious and destructive, and rightly so.

I am a down-the-ballot Democrat but this sh*t is crazy. Plus, it's like the boy who cried wolf. If every not-nice thing that is done by a white person to a non-white person is perceived as racist, and the offended person makes a stink every time their feelings get hurt, when something actually racist happens, it just gets ignored.

Some of you need to get it together. Your behavior is making things worse.

 

[verywellthensigh]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 5:13pm

I thought we were going to avoid name-calling.  But I guess that's racist of me to point that out right?  Adjusting one's show to be respectful to another show in the Broadway community isn't and shouldn't be held as if being spat in one's face and it's pure drama queenery to suggest otherwise.  

Oh, and for the poster who blames White supremacy, and by extension this board, for Trump's win, I got some bad news for you:

https://www.newsweek.com/black-voters-2024-election-donald-trump-1981244

It's this petty bull***t that is making people turn against DEI in droves.  Try fighting the real enemy for a change. 
 

[JasonC3]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 5:20pm

Play Esq. said: "We can be adults here. If people are a little bit more agitated, I think that’s justified. We don’t need a hall monitor, have you seen the **** that’s been posted here before?!??"

Nowhere did I suggest a "hall monitor" or deny people's right to feel agitated.  I shared my opinion about what I've experienced in reading and reflecting on the posts.

As someone who facilitates these types of discussions are part of my professional role,I do stand by my assertion that an online chat board, for the many reasons I previously noted, is ill-equipped for a conversation that's become this charged. 

[kehnahssy]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 5:25pm

While Black voters did end up shfting for Trump, the overwhelming majority voted for Harris - more than any other race.

There has been a lot of disrespectfully childish name-calling towards Kecia Lewis in the thread, which baffles me. One might not agree with her releasing a public statement towards Patti, but I've watched the video over and over and she always comes accross as very polite and didactic.

A black woman saying that she finds the behavior of white actress (and full-time diva) "microagressive" is not the same as her saying "She's a racist!!".

[Ensemble1698878795]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 5:30pm

verywellthensigh said: "I thought we were going to avoid name-calling. But I guess that's racist of me to point that out right? Adjusting one's show to be respectful to another show in the Broadway community isn't and shouldn't be held as if being spat in one's face and it'spure drama queenery to suggest otherwise.

Oh, and for the poster who blames White supremacy,and by extension this board, for Trump's win, I got some bad news for you:

https://www.newsweek.com/black-voters-2024-election-donald-trump-1981244

It's this petty bull***t that is making people turn against DEI in droves. Try fighting the real enemy for a change.
"

Nice try. It was White men, women and Latino men that led the majority vote for Trump. I do my research. You pulling up one article to support your delusion sounds about white. The attitude of some of you on this board reflects what this election represents. Patti's show will close shortly and hopefully we never have to deal with her ego or following ever again. 

 

[Ensemble1698878795]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 5:32pm

kehnahssy said: "While Black voters did end up shfting for Trump, the overwhelming majority voted for Harris - more than any other race.

There has been a lot of disrespectfully childish name-calling towards Kecia Lewis in the thread, which baffles me. One might not agree with her releasing a public statement towards Patti, but I've watched the video over and over and she always comes accross as very polite and didactic.

A black woman saying that she finds the behavior of white actress (and full-time diva) "microagressive" is not the same as her saying "She's a racist!!"."

Say it louder for the people in the back. Any voicing around race relations in theater makes a lot of folks on this board defensive and uncomfortable. That doesn't erase the fact that these dynamics do/can exist.

[verywellthensigh]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 5:39pm

OMG WHITE PEOPLE DECIDED AN ELECTION???  IN AMERICA??  I AM FOR REAL SH**ING MY PANTS RIGHT NOW!  THIS IS HUGE!  YOUR RESEARCH SKILLS ARE AMAZING!!!

I never said they led the majority, but the shift is not insignificant.  You might want to do your research as to why.  

[Ensemble1698878795]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 5:44pm

verywellthensigh said: "OMG WHITE PEOPLE DECIDED AN ELECTION??? IN AMERICA?? I AM FOR REAL SH**ING MY PANTS RIGHT NOW! THIS IS HUGE! YOUR RESEARCH SKILLS ARE AMAZING!!!

I never said they led the majority, but the shift is not insignificant. You might want to do your research as to why."

The Black male vote didn't win him this election. You're just saying things at this point. The Patti in you is showing. 

[Bette's Turban]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 5:47pm

Patti will be on WWHL tomorrow night (Thursday).

[gibsons2]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 5:54pm

kehnahssy said: "While Black voters did end up shfting for Trump, the overwhelming majority voted for Harris - more than any other race.

There has been a lot of disrespectfully childish name-calling towards Kecia Lewis in the thread, which baffles me. One might not agree with her releasing a public statement towards Patti, but I've watched the video over and over and she always comes accross as very polite and didactic.

A black woman saying that she finds the behavior of white actress (and full-time diva) "microagressive" is not the same as her saying "She's a racist!!"."

Kecia's exact quote was "racially microagressive" , so yes, she accused Patti of racism. Just rewatched the entire video and she keeps going about how the small change affected their entire production. What Kecia Lewis is indirectly implying is that she doesn't think that audience of The Roommate deserves the same experience as her big musical and since its a small show which makes only a third of what HK grosses, they should just stfu and cope until the closing. 

Updated On: 11/6/24 at 05:54 PM

[uncageg]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 6:03pm

Bette's Turban said: "Patti will be on WWHL tomorrow night (Thursday)."

 

Set my DVR to tape it a few days ago and it said Patti and Mia were scheduled. Just went to check and it now says Connie Chung & Jackie Hoffman are the guests.

 

[kehnahssy]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 6:03pm

gibsons2 said: Kecia's exact quote was "racially microagressive" , so yes, she accused her of racism.

Accusing someone of having a racist action is not the same as saying someone is racist. People can have racist, sexist, transphobic actions - and still not be racist, sexist, transphonic themselves.

It's the equivalent of saying "You did something that ended up hurting me, even though you probably didn't realize it" instead of saying "You hurt me, therefore you a bad person"

Updated On: 11/6/24 at 06:03 PM

[DrMonicaDeMoneco]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 6:08pm

Oh good grief, are we really still talking about this nonsense? Move on already. No one really cares.

[Robbie2]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 6:08pm

uncageg said: "Bette's Turban said: "Patti will be on WWHL tomorrow night (Thursday)."



Set my DVR to tape it a few days ago and it said Patti and Mia were scheduled. Just went to check and it now says Connie Chung & Jackie Hoffman are the guests.

"

. Our girl Patti is at Sunset tonight. Looking forward to hearing her thoughts.  

This thread has run its course. Please CLOSE it Moderators same few commenting on bs-nonsense.

[gibsons2]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 6:09pm

kehnahssy said: "gibsons2 said: Kecia's exact quote was "racially microagressive" , so yes, she accused her of racism.

Accusing someone of having a racist action is not the same as saying someone is racist. People can have racist, sexist, transphobic actions - and still not be racist, sexist, transphonic themselves.

It's the equivalent of saying "You did something that ended up hurting me, even though you probably didn't realize it" instead of saying "You hurt me, therefore you a bad person""

You sound patronizing. This isn't mandatory corporate HR training session.

[Ensemble1698878795]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 6:28pm

DrMonicaDeMoneco said: "Oh good grief, are we really still talking about this nonsense? Move on already. No one really cares."

Actually Black folks do. People who work in the industry deal with this a lot. Just because YOU don't care doesn't mean it goes away. 

[Up In One]

Posted: 11/6/24 at 8:54pm

Probably time for the Shubert's to start adding some sound proofing between theaters because that is the future of Broadway Musicals. The only way to enjoy Hell's Kitchen is at full blast with the volume up Madison Square Garden style. The dramaturgy and acting scenes are not the thing at the Shubert. I am very much in support of that kind of experience for Hell's Kitchen. But I also respect the straight plays who take us away to another place where we don't need to be reminded, we're in a theater with loud neighbors. Certainly, there's a middle ground that's short of multimillion dollar sound dampening systems.