Phantom movie

[elphaba432]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 5:54pm

Do you love the movie, hate it, or haven't seen it? I love it. I mean the new one!

Updated On: 5/10/06 at 05:54 PM

[sondwisenheimer]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 5:59pm

It's not too bad. I love Minnie Driver in it, but I'm not crazy about all of the Phantom's vocal and acting choices.

And his deformity's a little anticlimactic.

[sondwisenheimer]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 6:01pm

Oh, and just so you know, someone's about to come on here and say, "There have been a million billiondy thousand threads about this topic! Please do a search, as I'm required not to ignore any post, blah, blah, blah!"

[ILoveMyDictionary]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 6:02pm

Which movie? There are about six of them.

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 6:04pm

The movie was okay.

[donna_darko_23]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 6:07pm

The newest one? Ugh. Yuck. That Phantom was terrible. The males in general in the movie were pretty awful. Patrick Wilson was certainly the best, but even he wasn't very good.

I just don't understand because Andrew Lloyd Webber was a part of the audition process...he auditioned thousands of males for the Phantom...and he can up with that guy?

Also, if they could all decide if they collective were or were not going to do an accent would have been nice.

[MeGustaJake]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 7:49pm

I loved the movie, but I am definitely aware of its flaws. I thought Emmy Rossum was an enchanting Christine, and she really elevated the quality of the project, in my opinion.

I like Gerard Butler, but if I were being completley honest, I think someone else should've been cast as the Phantom. That said, I enjoy his performance even though I realize his voice isn't up to par with even the mediocre stage Phantoms.

Its one of my favorites simply because it is "Phantom". It could've been better, but at least I have a gorgeous film to look at with a great lead female performance of one of my favorite stories and musicals.

The biggest disappointment for me was the deformity. Where was it? LOL.

[kaboodles041]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 7:50pm

Here's my thoughts: They should either have done it very well, or not done it at all. So in other words--they shouldn't have done it at all!

[bwayondabrain]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 7:56pm

i have to agree with megustajake about Emmy- I personally think she was incredible, and preferred her performance much better than the one I saw on Broadway (by Sandra Joseph). Emmy sang beautifully, really captured all of the emotion, and is SEXY!!!! oh my goodness, she is a feast for my eyes!!!!!!
okay, that was a bit weird, but anyway, i love her.
and the rest of the movie was good- i really enjoyed it!

[Becky2]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 7:59pm

I was beyond dissapointed.

Emmy Rossum scoops way too many notes, and it is obvious she can't hit a lot of them. (She's an alto for one thing!) Notes had to be lowered or digitally enhanced, and those notes that weren't lowered were tight and breathy. I didn't care for her acting either. She just stands there agape for most of it.

Gerard Butler growls more than sings. They needed a professional vocalist for this role, not a standard actor.

I enjoyed Patrick Wilson's vocals, but his acting was lacking a bit. Out of the three leads, he was the most qualified though.

I did love the orchestrations though, and I thought Miranda Richardson was great as Madame Giry. Very mysterious.

And as an avid Phantom fan, I didn't care for the cutting and rearranging they did. But as you know, altering a piece of work is blasphemy to any die-hard fan. :)

[Fosse76]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 10:55pm

"Emmy Rossum scoops way too many notes, and it is obvious she can't hit a lot of them. (She's an alto for one thing!) Notes had to be lowered or digitally enhanced, and those notes that weren't lowered were tight and breathy. "

None of the music was digitally enhanced. None. Only one note was lowered, and most of the actresses who play the part on stage have had it lowered as well, so I don't see the point of contention here. The lowered notes in Think of Me was to change it up a bit...I don't think I've ever heard any of the actresses sing it the same way. Roles on Broadway are ALWAYS taylored to fit the actor, so it isn't unreasonable for it to change slightly for the replacements.

[treyisthekiller]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 11:01pm

personally, i love it, but i heard the actress playing christine, wasnt really singing...i heard they tracked someone else's voice. is this true?

[Fabrizio2]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 11:09pm

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[wickedrentq]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 11:42pm

It's flawed, but I adore it. Big shocker I'm sure.

I think Mr. Butler was fantastic as far as acting is concerned.

[Faith2]

Posted: 5/10/06 at 11:51pm

I've watched this movie so many times, I can't bare to watch it anymore.

I'm a huge ALW and Phantom phan, but after seeing the movie so many times, I'm really sick of it.

I watched the movie mainly for ALW's music! Now I perfer to just listen to the London OCR.

[jsg03jd]

Posted: 5/11/06 at 12:30am

"None of the music was digitally enhanced. None. Only one note was lowered, and most of the actresses who play the part on stage have had it lowered as well, so I don't see the point of contention here. The lowered notes in Think of Me was to change it up a bit...I don't think I've ever heard any of the actresses sing it the same way. Roles on Broadway are ALWAYS taylored to fit the actor, so it isn't unreasonable for it to change slightly for the replacements."

If you're talking about the cadenza in THINK OF ME, then, yes, there are "lowered" notes there. But the very definition of "cadenza" means the musical passage is tailored for or improvised by the individual singer. In terms of range, however, THINK OF ME is still in the same key as the stage version so Rossum still ascends up to a B-flat. The only song Rossum sings one half step lower is the title song because the final verse was eliminated for some reason in the film. So instead of hitting a high E at the end of the vocalise, Rossum recorded an E-flat, which is still very high.

Having said that, I loved the film. Butler is not the best singer, but his acting was quite moving. Rossum was believable as a young developing soprano. Wilson was... bland. And for some reason, even after "studio magic," Wilson still somehow couldn't maintain pitch. He sang a lot of flat notes in the soundtrack and I don't quite know why that's the case, especially since Wilson is a Broadway singer. Go figure.
Updated On: 5/11/06 at 12:30 AM

[Becky2]

Posted: 5/11/06 at 9:35am

The E-flat at the end of the title track was digitally enhanced, or so I have heard.

[Fosse76]

Posted: 5/11/06 at 10:51am

"The E-flat at the end of the title track was digitally enhanced, or so I have heard."

You heard wrong. And many actresses on stage not only have that final note lowered as well, it is pre-recorded, so who's to say it isn't altered either in the stage show? The criticism toward Rossum regarding this note has been most absurd, because the same accusations can be thrown at ALL the Christines from the show, yet aren't.

[best12bars]

Posted: 5/11/06 at 11:06am

Emmy has a mousey soprano voice. No richness at all. She sounds more like a boy soprano than any real threat to an opera diva. I don't mind her in the part, but they should have DUBBED her. She can't do the songs convincingly. Just hitting the notes isn't good enough for a character that is supposed to be a brilliantly talented singer. She isn't one... just because she can carry the tunes.

I said this before, but I'll say it here... more than anything I feel the musical direction killed the film. Every single number is painfully under-tempo to the point of suicide... except for Masquerade, which sounds ridiculously sped-up. I have no idea why these choices were made, but I can't get past Angel of Music any more without turning off the DVD. It's... so... slow! How could anyone (even the marvelous Meryl Streep!) ACT while singing something... THAT... slow? It's pure sabotage, and I find it unforgivable. I believe this killed the film above all else.

And my other HUGE problem is the Phantom. He's a legendary horror figure... not a Marvel Comics superhero. His sexiness lies within... not in his pecs or square jaw line. This choice was bizarre and an embarrassment. And it killed any real tension in the film. Why would we be scared of him? Answer: We're not! He's a sexual fantasy figure now... and we can't WAIT to get into his... cave.

And that's just... wrong.

[withoutlovewithoutU]

Posted: 5/11/06 at 11:26am

I actually really liked the movie, even though they could have done better on the casting of Christine. I really loved Garald Butler, but I think I'm in the minority with that one!

[SorryGrateful]

Posted: 5/11/06 at 11:53am

I thought this movie was a disaster. I hated that a lot of the normally sung lines were spoken. It sounded completely absurd. I really love The Phantom of the Opera and have seen it twice, but this movie threatened that for me. It was so bland.

Gerard Butler canNOT sing and, while very attractive, brought nothing to the role. Emmy Rossum, also very attractive and not a bad singer, looks traumatized throughout the entire movie. And Patrick Wilson, who I'm sure is very talented, made me want to cry. His hair was too effeminate, which wasn't really his fault, and I felt his acting was completely bland and vanilla.

Updated On: 5/11/06 at 11:53 AM

[peggyandvelma]

Posted: 5/11/06 at 11:59am

I liked it.