Protesting Scottsboro Boys Minstrel Show — Page 2
#27
Posted: 11/6/10 at 7:01pm
Well the reviewer didn't seem to understand the intentions of the show...
#28
Posted: 11/6/10 at 7:01pm
For those wondering, here's the "review" mentioned.
‘Scottsboro Boys’ is a blemish on Broadway
‘Scottsboro Boys’ is a blemish on Broadway
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#29
Posted: 11/6/10 at 7:03pm
Jon said "holocaust". If he's not Jewish than he's an Anti-Semite.
#30
Posted: 11/6/10 at 7:04pm
Ugh- the poor writing in that review is worse than anything the show could present.
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#31
Posted: 11/6/10 at 8:04pm
It isn't clear to me why a 19th century type of theatre was used to tell a 20th century story. By 1931, minstrel shows were a thing of the past. If Kander and Ebb wanted to use a popular style of entertainment to tell the story of the Scottsboro Boys, why didn't they use vaudeville? They used it once before in Chicago.
What Kander and company plus many people on this Board don't seem to understand is minstrel shows were little more than white fantasies of black lives. Also, social commentary was never part of minstrel shows.
Is it possible to write a serious musical about the Scottsboro Boys? Perhaps!
To those who defend The Scottsboro Boys, the musical, by mentioning The Producers, you don't understand The Producers. Mentioning Cabaret doesn't work either because the show takes place in 1930. The show use the rise of the Nazis are a backdrop to two "love" stories.
For the record, I wouldn't protest "For Colored Girls." I have seen For Colored Girls who have Considered Suicide When The Rainbow is Enuf. It's a stunning. After Orson Welles saw the movie version of Guys and Dolls, he said to Abe Burrows, "They dropped a turd on your show." Tyler Perry did the same to Ntozake Shange's work.
What Kander and company plus many people on this Board don't seem to understand is minstrel shows were little more than white fantasies of black lives. Also, social commentary was never part of minstrel shows.
Is it possible to write a serious musical about the Scottsboro Boys? Perhaps!
To those who defend The Scottsboro Boys, the musical, by mentioning The Producers, you don't understand The Producers. Mentioning Cabaret doesn't work either because the show takes place in 1930. The show use the rise of the Nazis are a backdrop to two "love" stories.
For the record, I wouldn't protest "For Colored Girls." I have seen For Colored Girls who have Considered Suicide When The Rainbow is Enuf. It's a stunning. After Orson Welles saw the movie version of Guys and Dolls, he said to Abe Burrows, "They dropped a turd on your show." Tyler Perry did the same to Ntozake Shange's work.
#32
Posted: 11/6/10 at 8:09pm
Wait- why doesn't Carabret work? Because it was in 1930? Um- The Scottsboro Boys case was in 1931... I don't think that's really a valid point.
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#33
Posted: 11/6/10 at 8:41pm
I honestly don't think a serious musical about the Scottsboro Boys would be nearly as effective. It could easily come off as Another Story of Racism, Aren't We Glad We're Past That?
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#34
Posted: 11/6/10 at 8:48pm
"minstrel shows were little more than white fantasies of black lives"
Isn't that the point of using it in this way?
Isn't that the point of using it in this way?
#35
Posted: 11/6/10 at 10:16pm
Do the protesters Stage Door? If so do they take photos or only sign?
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#36
Posted: 11/6/10 at 10:28pm
Actually "A director" minstrel shows can be documented as recently as the early 1960s. In the south they were still popular in the 30s. Really.
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#38
Posted: 11/6/10 at 11:55pm
The Minstrel Show hit its height in the first half of the twentieth century, as any musical theatre aficionado will tell you. Using the minstrel show format to tell the story of the Scottsboro Boys was a bold and fitting choice by Kander and Ebb, totally fitting into the old adage of "content dictates form" that Sondheim hammers home in his new book.
#39
Posted: 11/7/10 at 12:00am
Updated On: 11/7/10 at 12:00 AM
#40
Posted: 11/7/10 at 12:11am
Oh boy. So many good things to get indignant about and this....
#41
Posted: 11/7/10 at 12:15am
These protesters are doing more harm for their cause than good by protesting this show, honestly.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#42
Posted: 11/7/10 at 12:21am
This is probably the only way it gets told
Do it as a straight play & it flops. Doing it as a musical with The Minstrel Show as a framework further brings out the racism as do the songs - brilliantly I might add
The only thing I quibble at is Kander in a recent interview trotted out the old tired line that voting against"our black president" shows how racist we still are. Funny me, I thought he was just the president. Why does Mr Kander have to say "our BLACK president"? The same people who helped put him in (the independents) sent him a message. They were OK when they put him in. When they had the audacity to question his policies wham bam thank you mamm they are racists. I still respect him as a theater icon but was surprised re these remarks
Do it as a straight play & it flops. Doing it as a musical with The Minstrel Show as a framework further brings out the racism as do the songs - brilliantly I might add
The only thing I quibble at is Kander in a recent interview trotted out the old tired line that voting against"our black president" shows how racist we still are. Funny me, I thought he was just the president. Why does Mr Kander have to say "our BLACK president"? The same people who helped put him in (the independents) sent him a message. They were OK when they put him in. When they had the audacity to question his policies wham bam thank you mamm they are racists. I still respect him as a theater icon but was surprised re these remarks
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Updated On: 11/7/10 at 12:21 AM
#44
Posted: 11/7/10 at 1:41am
Do any of us know for sure that the "protest" itself wasn't publicity?
I'm just sayin'.
I'm just sayin'.
And no one grew into anything new, we just became the worst of what we were."
#45
Posted: 11/7/10 at 1:43am
Wonderwaiter...you make me think of all those old David Merrick gimmicks. "One never knows, do one"?
#46
Posted: 11/7/10 at 1:45am
There are serious discussions to be had. But never, EVER trust a white person who reflexively announces something is "not racist" and doesn't want to take part in any further aspect of said serious discussions.
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#47
Posted: 11/7/10 at 1:53am
You know what they say about 'no good deed goes unpunished.' That's what you get for making an intelligent musical about a serious and important subject. Nobody ever protests those juke box musicals, do they?
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#48
Posted: 11/7/10 at 1:55am
And no one grew into anything new, we just became the worst of what we were."
Updated On: 11/7/10 at 01:55 AM
#49
Posted: 11/7/10 at 1:16am
How awkward to all involved. Here's hoping that once the show gets more established this kind of misinformation falls by the wayside.
And no one grew into anything new, we just became the worst of what we were."
Updated On: 11/7/10 at 01:16 AM
#50
Posted: 11/7/10 at 10:41am
wonder,
i was told the press showed up. i think those involved are smiling. Free publicity.
i was told the press showed up. i think those involved are smiling. Free publicity.
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