Question RE: The Sondheim "Opening Night Audios"
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I think sites like BWW contribute to a hysteria about them. Remember when you couldn't even type the words "you tube" because if someone listened to a bootleg there and clicked from BWW then BWW was going to explode?
I know there's some precedent for releasing old bootlegs commercially, but I imagine it's usually more trouble than its worth. Equity, for one, would be a barrier.
Posted: 5/12/11 at 10:51pm
Remember that these "files" weren't "files"--they were tape--until the early or mid 1990s, when floppy discs and analog-to-digital converters came into commons use. So for 20 years they were floating around and dubbed, machine-to-machine, and stored in less-than-archival conditions.
Tape stretches, It breaks. It expands in heat and contracts in cold. It plays at different speeds on different players. And the people who were duplicating the tapes were not doing it in the open. They were doing it in secret, legitimately afraid of "getting busted," the same way they were secretive about gay sex and drug use.
Look at the way I was freaked out about the "Follies in Miniature" when I first joined BWW. I had hoarded it for 15 years, dubbing the 3rd-generation videotape as birthday and Christmas gifts for those I thought I could trust. Now it's a Megaupload/Megavideo link, which I give to anyone who is interested.
Personally, I can't listen to those soundboards of Follies. I make allowances for the crappy videos because they're the only visual record of this visually remarkable production. But the soundboard audios are like nails on chalkboard to me.
As far as I can tell the entire August 2, 1971 soundboard is too fast. The prologue is too fast, the voices are higher pitched than they were onstage (or are on the OBCR) and all the intros to the songs are way too fast.
And that LA soundboard is the opposite: it's too slow!
Posted: 5/12/11 at 11:02pm
Are there two for Follies? I seem to have a Boston and a New York one but am not sure if both are sound board recordings... I haven't listened in a while (my recordings are actually still on casettes I got as a teen) but I remember having the exact same prob with pitch and speed as PJ mentions.
I find the out of town ones especially fascinating--I'd love to find one for Company when Happily Ever After was still in, a song I've yet to hear recorded with its Tunick orchestrations... (Thank god we have some legal recordings of some such cut songs--like the original Frid doing Silly People with full orchestration on the "Scrabble" album even though it was cut out of town... On the same recording it always makes me mad that Larry Kert does so little of Happily Ever After before it goes into Being Alive, although that's just with piano anyway, and he obviously wasn't Bobby out of town).
*ahem* Sorry another ramble... But yeah, I doubt this could ever happen, unlike the Sondheim sung demos--would just be too much money and too many issues to deal with.
"I always wonder why the theatre community isn't as 'on top of' older bootleg recordings as the general music world. "
Quite simply I think it's largely because it's much easier to either get clearance, or sneak through a bootleg of a five member band, often the band doesn't even mind, than dealing with a cast and orchestra of 30-50+ people, plus composers and book writers, all represented by rather intense unions.
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I believe including the Los Angeles production there are 4 FOLLIES.
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I thought it was 5?
Boston highlights
Late Previews
December
April
Los Angeles
And I have on good word, although I do not have it, that there is another Boston Follies and a Boston Company with the original Tick Tock and Happily Ever After.
Posted: 5/13/11 at 11:56am
Also, consider how different the process of recreating the original staging of "Oklahoma" would have been if there were audios and videos from that time period.
Posted: 5/13/11 at 12:58pm
A piece of theatre is ephemeral; I would imagine any actor and writer would want their work preserved for those who came after or couldn't come to the piece when it was being done. Sadly, such is not the case.
JOak - there was once a semi-commercial release of Drat the Cat, and the quality is remarkably good.
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BUMPING This because I want to know if anyone can share any of the Follies soundboards from the original production. It would be much appreciated
Posted: 2/1/25 at 7:52am
Bumping. If anyone has information, please PM me. The users who used to have all the inside knowledge on Follies, Pal Joey and Phyllis Rogers Stone, no longer post here.
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