REDWOOD Reviews — Page 2

Auggie27 said: "To state the obvious these reviews aren't as positiveas those forIf/Then, but then this show has a catchier title and a concept that at least has visual significance: a grieving woman in a forest. If/Then- and I was a semi-fan, and even saw it twice - was so convoluted in structural design it was damn near impossible to market without annotating plot explications, other than to sell the star as a contemporary woman (remember the poster,Central Park with twin paths?)I will go out on a limb (!) and guess that this show will run til Labor Day anyway. Menzel does sell tickets, and the show just looks intriguing."

Certainly, she does not sell tickets.

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I would be so so appreciative if someone could post a gift link to the NY Times review.

If one is to make a blanket statement, "she doesn't sell tickets," support it with data-driven facts. If/hen played 430 performances (401 plus 29 previews) with a few positive but mixed reviews and one infamously brutal pan, in the N Times by Brantley, who didn't like show or star.. The strength of her participation was a given in the full year's run (March 30, 2014 - March 22, 2015). And on the road, once she left the major cities portion of the If/Then tour, and Jackie Burns took over, it did not sell.

Updated On: 2/14/25 at 09:35 AM

So he hated Company but LOVED Redwood.

The world seems topsy turvy.

jimmycurry01 said: "WiCkEDrOcKS said: ""She does not have the power to return an investment on name alone" and "Certainly, she does not sell tickets" are two completely different statements.
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Rather than arguing about something without offering any evidence, let's take a look at the actual data. If/Then had several very lean months in its year-long run. Ultimately, Idina Menzel didnot have the ticket selling power that many here think she did.

Now, her popularity has since grown, thanks in part to Frozen, but has it grown enough to sustain another show with mixed reviews? Time will tell. In any case, when we analyze the actual data from If/Then, it seems silly to use that specific data to suggest she can sell tickets.



Ok, here’s my final word on this:

“Certainly, she does not sell tickets” is a theory completely debunked by the graph you just provided. IF/THEN was a financial flop at the end of the day, to be sure. But you think a show about a woman having a mid-life crisis came even remotely close to cracking $1M a week during previews because of the subject matter? The large majority of ticket buyers bought tickets to that show FOR Idina, period.

Same for REDWOOD. People aren’t buying tickets to see the tree.

The “she can’t return investments” argument is a completely different statement and one that has a sound argument, based off of IF/THEN and (so far) REDWOOD’s steady decline in sales.

I’m not saying she can do the latter, but she can certainly do the former and move a substantial amount of tickets based on her name. The woman isn’t (successfully) touring regularly for nothing.

Updated On: 2/15/25 at 11:00 AM

jimmycurry01 said: "Successfully touring in small venues for one or two nights for mostly subscription based concert series does not really say much about her ability to sell tickets. That data will be more difficult to come by. She certainly gets bookings and plays to those houses, though. Still, I think we will have to wait and see how Redwood goes before we can suggest that she can actually sell tickets based on her name."

I am compelled to state that she hasn't done concerts as part of subscription packages in many years.

jimmycurry01 said: "veronicamae said: "jimmycurry01 said: "Successfully touring in small venues for one or two nights for mostly subscription based concert series does not really say much about her ability to sell tickets. That data will be more difficult to come by. She certainly gets bookings and plays to those houses, though. Still, I think we will have to wait and see how Redwood goes before we can suggest that she can actually sell tickets based on her name."

I am compelled to state that she hasn't done concerts as part of subscription packages in many years."

And yet she was part of my season subscription in 2023 in Indianapolis."

Idina was promoting a children's book and doing pride gigs, not on a concert tour, in 2023.

jimmycurry01 said: "veronicamae said: "jimmycurry01 said: "veronicamae said: "jimmycurry01 said: "Successfully touring in small venues for one or two nights for mostly subscription based concert series does not really say much about her ability to sell tickets. That data will be more difficult to come by. She certainly gets bookings and plays to those houses, though. Still, I think we will have to wait and see how Redwood goes before we can suggest that she can actually sell tickets based on her name."

I am compelled to state that she hasn't done concerts as part of subscription packages in many years."

And yet she was part of my season subscription in 2023 in Indianapolis."

Idina was promoting a children's book and doing pride gigs, not on a concert tour, in 2023."

The semantics of a concert tour and touring around doing concert gigs at subscription based venues (which she did do) aside, the point still holds that her work does not demonstrate that she has any real ticket selling power."

It's not semantics; she hasn't done a regular ticketed concert in Indianapolis since 2017. It's entirely possible she headlined a fundraiser there, which is very different than the point you are trying to make.

But yes all that aside, all we can do is wait and see how things develop.