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RENT is confirmed to be selectively homophobic
alli2
Broadway Star Joined: 1/6/05
#75re: RENT is confirmed to be selectively homophobic
Posted: 11/19/05 at 12:04pmokay, when in the show does it show Angel and Collins going at it? I didn't really see that much of a difference between the show and movie in context of their going at it...
Jon
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/20/04
#76re: RENT is confirmed to be selectively homophobic
Posted: 11/19/05 at 12:04pmDon't worry - the DVD will have all the deleted scenes of Collins cornholing Angel.
alli2
Broadway Star Joined: 1/6/05
#77re: RENT is confirmed to be selectively homophobic
Posted: 11/19/05 at 12:41pmAND when do they show Roger and Mimi going at it? I do not think it's selectively homophobic.
#78re: RENT is confirmed to be selectively homophobic
Posted: 11/19/05 at 1:08pm
"Call yourself the Grand HooHahpapadopalis Master Extraordinaire of Gay Vindication."
I am so putting this title on my letterhead! JerseyGirl, your post cracked me up. Especially the special schools part.
"Heterosexuality makes art2 feel: crocodile"
*sniff* I'm gonna miss Arrested Development
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Wanting life but never knowing how
Updated On: 11/19/05 at 01:08 PM
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ndbt05
Swing Joined: 11/14/05
#79re: RENT is confirmed to be selectively homophobic
Posted: 11/19/05 at 1:10pmArt2 aka arthurs-2 MUST YOU BE ON EVERY MESSAGE BOARD? Since Anthony is posting again, can we ask him what he thinks?
#80re: RENT is confirmed to be selectively homophobic
Posted: 11/19/05 at 1:13pm
Art2 -
Do you work for the Bush Administration?
They are a bit delusional and I thought perhaps there was something familiar about the way they selectively used information to start a war and the way you view the Rent Movie.
Take a piece here, and piece there, distort it at a certain angle, and voila - Saddam has nuclear weapons and/or Rent is homophonic.
Tell, me, Art2, are you really Dick Cheney?
#81re: RENT is confirmed to be selectively homophobic
Posted: 11/19/05 at 1:26pm
Okay, here it is.
What I am about to say... is truly shocking.
Angel and Collins are portrayed differently than Joanne and Maureen because...
THEY ARE A DIFFERENT COUPLE!!
And it just so happens that Maureen and Joanne have a more sex-oriented relationship.
Angel and Collins' relationship is ABOVE that, i.e. it is DEEPER, i.e. you have nothing to complain about!
If their relationship in the movie consisted only of hot sex, THINK ABOUT IT! Wouldn't you be complaining that there was no depth to the relationship? That they were suggesting that two men couldn't have a meaningful relationship?
If you want to see gay ACTION, I'm sure there are PLENTY of movies that will accomidate you. It just so happens that this one has decided to to show a gay RELATIONSHIP. If that bothers you, move on!
Whiteboy Spice
Stand-by Joined: 10/29/04
#82re: RENT is confirmed to be selectively homophobic
Posted: 11/19/05 at 1:46pm
If after Art sees the film he still has a gripe about Angel and Collins, then we'll talk. But till then it's a bit moot, cause he's making all sorts of assumptions.
I think it goes without saying that NO ONE I have worked with on the film is even a little bit homophobic, and trust me, that's something about which I would be very aware.
It's very interesting to see this conversation unfold, though.
Anthony
my2cents
Featured Actor Joined: 10/18/05
#83re: RENT is confirmed to be selectively homophobic
Posted: 11/19/05 at 1:47pmCONFIRMED CONFIRMED!!! dude that is one person's f#$%ing opinion. It is not confirmed.
TheatreDiva90016
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/04
#84Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 1:50pm
FArt2-
Congratulations on finding ONE other person who agrees with you. That does not make you vindicated. It means there is one other person out there who agrees with your position. THAT'S ALL. How many papers and reviews did you have to read before you found the ONLY ONE that saw things fom your uninformed point of view?
And, you shouldn't speak of a show, or a movie that you haven't seen. That's just stupid. So, shut your pie hole.
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>>
“I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>>
-whatever2
#85Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 1:51pm
:sigh:
Anthony, he'll never get it.
"I love talking about nothing. It is the only thing I know anything about." - Oscar Wilde
#86Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 1:52pmWow! A critic agreed with you! I am DEFINITELY eating my humble pie (fresh out of the oven) right now.
"Electricity sparks inside of me... and I'm free, I'm free."
#87Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 1:53pm
Diva,
He's talking about those trailers. Those gosh darn homophobic trailers.
How dare they not devote the 30 seconds they have to promote the movie, to a hardcore makeout scene between Angel and Collins?
The nerve.
"I love talking about nothing. It is the only thing I know anything about." - Oscar Wilde
#88Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 1:55pmI don't think art will even see the movie. I don't think the psych ward allows field trips; he'll have to wait until it's out on DVD.
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Wanting life but never knowing how
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TheatreDiva90016
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/10/04
#89Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 1:58pm
Oh! Well then....
Same difference. He hasn't seen the stage play, so he's shooting off his big yap without being fully informed.
And by the time he does see the movie, he's already talked himself into being angry with it.
I still think he needs to shut his (humble) pie hole.
"TheatreDiva90016 - another good reason to frequent these boards less."<<>>
“I hesitate to give this line of discussion the validation it so desperately craves by perpetuating it, but the light from logic is getting further and further away with your every successive post.” <<>>
-whatever2
#90Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 2:00pm
mmm. Pie.
.... even though I'm sure the lovely art's opinions won't change when he *does* see the movie, this isn't worth much more than laughter to me until he does.
Anti-gay shredder, was it? It's all about the catch phrases, y'all.
#91Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 2:01pm
Anthony, that was excellent, logical, articulate, and accurate. Art will never understand those things.
Art, I hope you are enjoying yourself.
It is too bad Patronus is flying, he would enjoy this.
Nice work all.
I agree Orangeskitles, he seems to have no interest in the movie or the themes of Rent. Although, I doubt seeing the movie would change his mind.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#92Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 2:03pm
Maybe you should sent Fuzzels on his quest for vengeance over to whereever Art is.
Doesn't this guy do this for A LOT of movies? It's not even just a Rent issue.
(and hello to Anthony.)
#94Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 2:06pm
Please forgive me if this has been addressed, but this assertion is so ludicrous that I could not read every post.
Art, would you be as upset if, in your OPINION, the male-male relationship was "sexed-up" while the female-female relationship was, in your OPINION, watered down?
"I am open, and I am willing,
For to be hopeless would seem so strange.
It dishonors those who go before us,
So lift me up to the light of change."
Holly Near
#95Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 2:08pm
If that happened, I firmly believe Art2 would be bashing the film for now showing a deeper, loving, male/male relationship and only focusing on the stereotype of gay men wanting sex.
I don't think there is any scenario where he would be satisfied with the end-product.
#96Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 2:09pmSomeone could so easily turn this against Art and call it sexism that he's upset about the male-male relationship, but probably wouldn't be as up in arms if the feeling were that the female-female relationship were dimished; in that he seems to be more interested in the gay males than he is in the gay females. And that be silly. But, it would be silly because his starting point is so far off-base; you just go farther. The Rent creators are homphobic, art? Then you're sexist. And if that's preposterous, so is your assumption about this movie.
#97Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 2:11pmThank you Anthony! Anyone who sees the movie knows that!
#98Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 2:22pm
Em, back in the days when we tried to actually argue Pinguin and I brought up that very issue. Art just called us "libido liberals" again.
I totally agree YWIW, Art is a conservative mouthpiece trying to use "reverse pychology" on us.
Fuzzels is on his way to extract revenge, as we speak! 
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#99Art2 knows NOTHING
Posted: 11/19/05 at 2:23pm
I don't think I participated heavily in the original argument. I was just like "heh. What a joke."
GO FUZZELS!!
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