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[10086sunset]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 10:50am

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A list of people who gave their support to Marin publicly on Twitter should not be censored here. There is nothing about it that is against the rules here other then your opinion. I'm sure I'm not the only one who doesn't want to give their money to some of these actors now. If they don't want us here anymore then we have every right to say hey this is the list of actors you can choose not to spend money on if you wish. If you don't care then keep supporting them. Absolutely ridiculous that the list won't be allowed here. 

 

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Agreed.

[Broadway Joe]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 10:51am

 

This is also legitimately the most disengaged moderator team I have ever seen on a message board. Who are they? How many are they? Do they regularly give a glance to the board? Do they even look if they're not called on? 

 

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Absolutely agree. All the other message boards I'm on the mods usually have the word mod listed under their names. 

 

I've been here for almost 6 years now and couldn't even name one mod before this stuff other then that Rob owned and ran the place. 

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[ljay889]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 10:52am

I think we need to be careful about which actors we label as on "the list"/ Patti's bandwagon. It should be the actors that are openly supporting and suggesting the shut down of this community, there are several. Audra only responded to a tweet from Tesori that said "Murin and Audra are fierce" and Audra responded with mutual admiration for both of them. I don't see Audra trying to take down this board, and things would be super ****ing depressing if she joins that crusade. 

 

Updated On: 3/12/16 at 10:52 AM

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 10:53am

Yeah, I understand the intent behind the list, but it was also assuming everyone who tweeted in support of Patti was also expressing 100% support in her entire blog post, and I just don't see that as being the case.

[Broadway Joe]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 10:57am

LizzieCurry said: "Yeah, I understand the intent behind the list, but it was also assuming everyone who tweeted in support of Patti was also expressing 100% support in her entire blog post, and I just don't see that as being the case.

 

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Which is why a list thread could have exactly what the actor said and people could form their own opinions from there on who to spend money on and not spend money on in the future. 

 

[MVintheheartland]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 10:59am

Frankly, I think it's about time this happened. I have been a member for a few years, but tend to post less and less because of the general bullying and nasty remarks made by some of the active members of this community. I know people who refuse to post here because of the snark and mean-spirited responses to otherwise innocent posts.

 

As a new poster, I was excited to talk about the shows I have seen. (I go to NYC 2-4 times a year). However, I have been shut down for posting in the wrong thread, not having seen 2 different cast members (sorry, I only have money to see a show once), etc. And the vitriol you spew to each other just blows me away.

 

So, my questions to you snarky posters--

 

1. Do you want to keep new posters away?

2. Do you feel fulfilled by being nasty? Do you go to bed at night with a feeling of satisfaction that you ripped somebody a new one?

 

I hope that this turns this community into something a little more civilized. I just don't  understand the nastiness.

 

MV

 

and BTW, Phillylpinto was not half as bad as the abuse y'all heaped upon him/her. Just block the user, for pete's sake.

 

Updated On: 3/12/16 at 10:59 AM

[MVintheheartland]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:01am

Broadway Joe said: " 

This is also legitimately the most disengaged moderator team I have ever seen on a message board. Who are they? How many are they? Do they regularly give a glance to the board? Do they even look if they're not called on? 

Absolutely agree. All the other message boards I'm on the mods usually have the word mod listed under their names.

i've been here for almost 6 years now and couldn't even name one mod before this stuff other then that Rob owned and ran the place. "

I had no idea there even was a moderator.

 

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Updated On: 3/12/16 at 11:01 AM

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:02am

Storify might be the best place if you really want to comb through and catalog the replies and mentions Patti's been getting. Not here. People here can't figure out how to paste a tweet, for goshdarn sakes.

[ljay889]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:03am

Broadway Joe said: "LizzieCurry said: "Yeah, I understand the intent behind the list, but it was also assuming everyone who tweeted in support of Patti was also expressing 100% support in her entire blog post, and I just don't see that as being the case.

 

 

 

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Which is why a list thread could have exactly what the actor said and people could form their own opinions from there on who to spend money on and not spend money on in the future. 

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We had a list thread last night and some names were being added who weren't outright suggesting we be shut down. If we were able to have a list it should only be those performers who support shutting us down with an example tweet/link. 

 

[Kad]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:04am

The list thread, which apparently was born, lived, and died in the 7 hours I was asleep, seems to me like a misguided idea and a recipe for disaster. 

[Broadway Joe]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:08am

ljay889 said: "Broadway Joe said: "LizzieCurry said: "Yeah, I understand the intent behind the list, but it was also assuming everyone who tweeted in support of Patti was also expressing 100% support in her entire blog post, and I just don't see that as being the case.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Which is why a list thread could have exactly what the actor said and people could form their own opinions from there on who to spend money on and not spend money on in the future. 

 

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We had a list thread last night and some names were being added who weren't outright suggesting we be shut down. If we were able to have a list it should only be those performers who support shutting us down with an example tweet/link. 

 

 

 

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I agree

[Hellob]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:16am

LizzieCurry said: "Storify might be the best place if you really want to comb through and catalog the replies and mentions Patti's been getting. Not here. People here can't figure out how to paste a tweet, for goshdarn sakes.

 

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I agree that posting the tweet without comment and letting the user decide if it was support instead of grouping everyone together would be better. That way, no one is debating whether it's valid or not and can make their own call and keeps personal opinion out of it.

 

[hork]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:18am

Wait, wait, wait ... that list thread was serious? I thought it was some kind of group satire about ridiculous boycotts.

[LizzieCurry]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:19am

I think it was kind of both. I enjoyed the lack of self-awareness, personally.

[KathyNYC2]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:20am

Kad said: "The list thread, which apparently was born, lived, and died in the 7 hours I was asleep, seems to me like a misguided idea and a recipe for disaster. 

 

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YES.

[Hellob]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:22am

KathyNYC2 said: "I didn't like the list. I read it and it wasn't accurate. Some names were there that were later pointed out shouldn't be there at all...but like a headline that shows up on page one and then a retraction that posted at the bottom of page ten, the name is forever out there.  I didn't feel it was right and it didn't feel like censorship at all to remove it.  It felt to me like the right thing to do.

 

 

 

I don't need or want a list..I am entirely intelligent and able to learn for myself who I want to see in the theater and who I don't. If someone reads an article or comments by someone like Patti, please feel free to leave a link so I can read what was said..and make up my own mind.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Agreed that evidence should be presented without comment and let the user make up their own minds. However, some people aren't on fb or Twitter nor do they know how to navigate so I do feel like posting it is ok as long as the posts only contain the information and don't continue as a debate. I'm not sure how the thread unfolded bc I was asleep. 

[ljay889]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:23am

LizzieCurry said: "I think it was kind of both. I enjoyed the lack of self-awareness, personally."

 

I think it was both, too. 

[Marianne2]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:27am

I agree that the actors who gave Patti her support is a little difficult to determine who really wants the boards gone versus just thinks people should be nicer. Like 1 person I was disappointed with actually seems to have deleted their tweet, so it seems possible they thought what they said was not the best thing. 

 

 

 

[Kad]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:30am

Putting together a list of individuals specifically for the purpose of singling and calling them out is sort of behavior that solidifies the worst impressions people have. 

[ljay889]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:40am

It was more about giving members of this community the opportunity to make an informed decision about supporting these particular performers in the future. There was definitely an element of parody, but I think the intention was good. 

[Kad]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:45am

But to an outside observer, it looks like Nixon's enemy list.

[KathyNYC2]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 11:56am

Kad said: "But to an outside observer, it looks like Nixon's enemy list.

 

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And YES again. 

[Broadway Joe]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 12:02pm

Kad said: "But to an outside observer, it looks like Nixon's enemy list.

 

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That's not a good comparison. Why should people who are here want to spend money to go see an actress who thinks we are all " bitches".  Patti liked the tweet too. She's a hypocrite. 

 

[Craig]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 12:11pm

Because you might have context for the list. But I hope you realize that not everyone would. This isn't a private discussion board. Anyone - member or not - can access it. And that thread would live forever.  So a few years from now - when some people have stopped foaming at the mouth over something that is of little ultimate consequence to them - it will see still be around.

What if it was reversed. What if producers started posting a sign in front of their theater stating that they wouldn't sell tickets to a set list of usernames and posted their offensive comments and left that up in theaters indefinitely.  That would be OK, right?  You'd be cool with that? 

Perhaps a poor analogy given the anonymity most people have on this site. But again - there seems to be a lack of objectivity from some who are getting way too personally offended. For many - YOUR name isn't being singled out. Your online personal/screen name is.  It's not remotely on par with some of these performers you wish to blacklist for simply saying they agree with a fellow actor.

[Broadway Joe]

Posted: 3/12/16 at 12:17pm

Craig said: "Because you might have context for the list. But I hope you realize that not everyone would. This isn't a private discussion board. Anyone - member or not - can access it. And that thread would live forever.  So a few years from now - when some people have stopped foaming at the mouth over something that is of little ultimate consequence to them - it will see still be around.

 

What if it was reversed. What if producers started posting a sign in front of their theater stating that they wouldn't sell tickets to a set list of usernames and posted their offensive comments and left that up in theaters indefinitely.  That would be OK, right?  You'd be cool with that? 

Perhaps a poor analogy given the anonymity most people have on this site. But again - there seems to be a lack of objectivity from some who are getting way too personally offended. For many - YOUR name isn't being singled out. Your online personal/screen name is.  It's not remotely on par with some of these performers you wish to blacklist for simply saying they agree with a fellow actor.

 

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Another ridiculously bad comparison. 

I'm not an actor whose whole business depends on customers buying tickets.