Posted: 3/12/16 at 5:19pm
Updated On: 3/14/16 at 05:19 PM
Posted: 3/12/16 at 5:34pm
Updated On: 3/18/16 at 05:34 PM
Posted: 3/12/16 at 5:38pm
I tweeted at Steven Pasquale this morning to ask him if he and his friends truly believe that these boards should be completely eradicated, as he said last night. I told him that I believed it was a shortsighted viewpoint and that it disregarded all of the good discussion this board generates. This was his response:
@clever_redux My friends? U mean the people who are MAKING ALL THE THEATER? Bye bye. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
He then proceeded to block me. So keep in mind that this was never about starting a conversation for some -- if not all -- of the actors who have decided to carry Patti's banner. They do not believe we should exist. They believe that theirs is the only side.
Updated On: 3/12/16 at 05:38 PM
Posted: 3/12/16 at 5:41pm
Maybe somebody should ask Mr. Pasquale who he thinks is paying for the theatre he and his friends are creating. Theatre can't run without money. Has he ever taken an economics course?
Posted: 3/12/16 at 5:43pm
My thoughts exactly, Cinders. Although, it's clear that many theater folks (at least those on the purely creative side) are clueless to even basic economics. But perhaps that's a discussion for another thread.
Posted: 3/12/16 at 5:54pm
*Light snarking.
Posted: 3/12/16 at 5:57pm
His comment shows a lack of understanding that people actual go to shows based upon feedback provided on this board. I only went to see Bridges when I was in NY a few years ago because of the wonderful word of mouth on this board. Similarly, when I was in NY in December, I snagged a ticket to The Color Purple prior to its opening based upon similarly glowing comments.
I get calling for more civility on the boards, which is always a challenge, but advocating that they be eradicated as a centralized place where people from a variety of backgrounds can share experiences and educate others about live theater is one way to continually shrink your exposure and footprint. What an incredibly smug/arrogant response on his part.
Posted: 3/12/16 at 6:12pm
Man, I bet the Nerds team is so proud that this will be their legacy.
Posted: 3/12/16 at 6:18pm
That's a shame, AC126748. Interestingly, Lea Salonga did delete the tweet that called us bitches, so I wonder if she had second thoughts. At least I did not see it anywhere today.
I definitely use this site and board to get information on new shows. Nobody I know is really interested in theater like I am. But, I had never been to a Broadway show before 2007. It was always a dream, but always to see familiar sounding shows like Phantom of the Opera, Cats, and Mamma Mia. But, I have definitely gone on to see so many different kinds of shows. While I tend to only end up seeing things that truly are of interest for me, versus others who see everything, I come here to learn about shows, good and bad.
Posted: 3/12/16 at 6:25pm
This has gotten to the ridiculously stupid point. Pasquale's show is not selling well (don't delete this post for my writing a FACT) so I wonder how the producers would feel if they knew the star was actively trying to alienate theater fans from attending.
I I said it before in the locked thread but it bears repeating - I'm so glad actors are coming together to stand up to their fans. It's about time they stood up to us to tell us that they're better than we are.
Posted: 3/12/16 at 6:28pm
Updated On: 3/18/16 at 06:28 PM
Posted: 3/12/16 at 6:34pm
Man....why Pasquale? Why? And he's pretty much adored around here which makes his outrage even stranger.
Posted: 3/12/16 at 6:36pm
Right?! Has anyone EVER said anything bad about him??
Posted: 3/12/16 at 6:47pm
LizzieCurry said: "Man, I bet the Nerds team is so proud that this will be their legacy."
To think I actually became interested via the preview cancellation thread once I learned it wasn't about Revenge of the Nerds.
Posted: 3/12/16 at 7:12pm
"Right?! Has anyone EVER said anything bad about him??"
Pasquale can feel a solidarity with those who have been spoken ill of and speak out for them without having been attacked himself, can't he?
Updated On: 3/12/16 at 07:12 PM
Posted: 3/12/16 at 7:15pm
That's not what he's doing ghostlight. He called for the boards to come down. Is that what you want?
Posted: 3/12/16 at 7:15pm
mailhandler777 said: "Marianne2 said: "That's a shame, AC126748. Interestingly, Lea Salonga did delete the tweet that called us bitches, so I wonder if she had second thoughts. At least I did not see it anywhere today."
It's on her Facebook page yet as well as Patti's since she tagged her in it.
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Seriously? Was looking forward to her 54 Below show, now that just went down the tube again.
Posted: 3/12/16 at 7:16pm
What an awful thing for Pasquale to do.
Man, these guys really hate their fans.
Perhaps this is all secret plot to kill off stage-dooring.
I've noticed that no one in the Hamilton crew has jumped on board.
And someone else noticed that very few, if any millennials have bothered with it either.
Posted: 3/12/16 at 7:16pm
ghostlight2 said: ""Right?! Has anyone EVER said anything bad about him??"
Pasquale can feel a solidarity with those who have been spoken ill of and speak out for them without having been attacked himself, can't he?"
He can feel that. But I think his tweet is remarkably smug and petty, as is his subsequent blocking of ACL.
Posted: 3/12/16 at 7:18pm
tazber said: "What an awful thing for Pasquale to do.
Man, these guys really hate their fans.
Perhaps this is all secret plot to kill off stage-dooring.
I've noticed that no one in the Hamilton crew has jumped on board.
And someone else noticed that very few, if any millennials have bothered with it either."
The most high-profile Broadway actors have largely kept out of it, to their credit.
Considering how active LMM in his show's fan communities, I am not surprised he has yet to speak out. I know for a fact he used to read these forums.
Updated On: 3/12/16 at 07:18 PM
Posted: 3/12/16 at 7:20pm
Re: Pasquale
It's not just that he's never been attacked, it's that he's actively adored.
I'm going to guess that he doesn't read the boards.
Which is neither here nor there, but maybe check out something yourself before joining a campaign to have it removed.
Updated On: 3/12/16 at 07:20 PM
Posted: 3/12/16 at 7:26pm
^That's the most disappointing part about all of this. I'm sure Murin is proud of her Trump tactics.
I feel that while performers should not visit these boards (unless they have thick skins and take the time to understand how an online community works), the creative teams and producers could find feedback, and perhaps it would be a good idea for the actors' agents to check things out as well. The way many of these people are reacting on social media is not the way to engage with (against) the significant fan base here.
On another note, how about this: Is there a list somewhere containing the names of actors and other industry professionals who do support fan sounding boards like this? Matthew Murray is a critic, so I'm not sure he counts as being in industry per se.
Posted: 3/12/16 at 7:27pm
Exactly, his performances in Bridges and The Wild Party were held in extremely high regard around here.
I just can't fathom treating the fans who support you like this. Blocking AC1 who was extremely respectful in his tweets? Why?
Updated On: 3/12/16 at 07:27 PM
Posted: 3/12/16 at 7:29pm
Not to mention the overwhelming praise of his Billy Bigelow, something many (including myself) want to see him do on Broadway, opposite Osnes.
