Riedel on Frozen with costume designs

[10086sunset]

Posted: 8/10/17 at 11:23pm

http://nypost.com/2017/08/10/the-costumes-in-frozen-the-musical-are-nothing-like-youd-expect/

[oncemorewithfeeling2]

Posted: 8/10/17 at 11:30pm

Um...no thank you.

I'm all for changes and new adaptations, but I just don't find these sketches appealing. 

[Itonlytakesajourney]

Posted: 8/10/17 at 11:45pm

Neither of those costumes look appealing in the slightest. Just what is with that shade of green?

[non-stop26]

Posted: 8/10/17 at 11:47pm

Yeah... I'm continuing to lose faith in this. 

[ljay889]

Posted: 8/10/17 at 11:55pm

Ew!

[RippedMan]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 12:25am

$30 million?! That's insane. Now I'm so curious to see why this show is so huge. 

[JBroadway]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 2:16am

I think, as usual, we have to take anything Riedel says with a grain of salt. Regarding that 2nd costume: the drawing is unflattering, but it could be a cute costume in real life. The first one - who knows? Do we really know it's for Anna? And even if what Riedel says is true - that it's a gift from the "Hidden Folk" - I bet you she wears it for one number as part of their ceremonial whatever, then goes back to her regular costume. These 2 drawings alone, out of context, and skewed by the ever-unreliable Riedel, are just not enough to go off of. I trust the artists behind Disney Theatricals far more than I trust Riedel. 

Speaking of - is there a reason every single freaking thing Riedel spews out in his cheap tabloid gets its own thread on this board? Does he really warrant that? I've always wanted to bring this up, but usually I don't participate in the threads in question, so I just leave it alone. 

[Hellob]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 4:24am

How do you describe the second one "sleek"? That's a laugh.

[VintageSnarker]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 5:11am

Um... dafuq? It's not an Anastasia blue dress situation but there's very little reason to not to a pretty basic transfer of the outfits from the movie. If you need to add detail like Gregg Barnes did for Aladdin, great, but don't go in a completely different direction. And before anyone says the costumer designer needs to be creative and have their own vision, Oram also did Wolf Hall and historical accuracy didn't hamper his creativity there. 

[JennH]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 7:16am

Damn..they're keeping Fixer Upper. That literally will revert the 'hidden folk" right back to the "cutesy (not really), aimed at kids trolls". Oh well.

Anyways, my takeaway is this. There' only two sketches here. And it happens to be the two that should by no mean serve as in indicator for the rest of them. Her fixer upper costume? Yeah that was always going to be weird anyway. Frankly, they could have nixed that and that moment in the show still would serve it "purpose". The mountain outfit? Anna is most memorable in her blue and red but it's by no means iconic, so I've been saying that this particular costume could go either way. Either more movie direction (more dressy looking, but not necessarily a replica), or completely different, which is what we got. Lolz, it certainly explains that picture of Patti looking like she's attempting a split jump It looks a bit unsightly on paper, but on paper always ends up looking different in real life. So sine we have the two costumes that aren't indicators of anything, I'll reserve judgment. Now, if we were given sketches of their coronation outfits or Elsa's ice blue one (I always knew this would be unlikely, I'm sure they want to keep that under wraps as long as possible), then yeah I could use those and start making judgement calls. 

[Evans2]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 8:21am

JBroadway said: "I think, as usual, we have to take anything Riedel says with a grain of salt. Regarding that 2nd costume: the drawing is unflattering, but it could be a cute costume in real life. The first one - who knows? Do we really know it's for Anna? And even if what Riedel says is true - that it's a gift from the "Hidden Folk" - I bet you she wears it for one number as part of their ceremonial whatever, then goes back to her regular costume. These 2 drawings alone, out of context, and skewed by the ever-unreliable Riedel, are just not enough to go off of. I trust the artists behind Disney Theatricals far more than I trust Riedel. 

Speaking of - is there a reason every single freaking thing Riedel spews out in his cheap tabloid gets its own thread on this board? Does he really warrant that? I've always wanted to bring this up, but usually I don't participate in the threads in question, so I just leave it alone. "

Regarding Riedel and his cheap tabloid, everyone here likes to crap on him. Doesn't change the fact that he breaks more stories than anyone else. BWW lifts these columns every week and passes them off as new on their main board. 

Just recently, he's broken news about Meteor Shower, Spingsteen and has provided information on Comet. 

His column on the vultures circling great comet has 347 comments and 67,712 views.

Does he warrant being posted? I'd say more so than the constant "what show do I see?" or the "does this person sign at the stagedoor?" threads.

Updated On: 8/11/17 at 08:21 AM

[disneybroadwayfan22]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 8:31am

Guess I'm the only one who likes the costumes so far. Keep in mind that Anastasia dramatically changed Anya's costumes as well (The blue dress in Hartford as well). So why not?

I'm guessing they rewrote Fixer Upper to be more serious and folk-sounding. Glad they confirmed Olaf is a puppet.

[Lot666]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 8:32am

VintageSnarker said: "...there's very little reason to not to a pretty basic transfer of the outfits from the movie. If you need to add detail like Gregg Barnes did for Aladdin, great, but don't go in a completely different direction."

The article states: "We’re not doing an exact copy of the movie...We evoke the movie, but we’re creating something original for the stage.”

As with The Lion King, they apparently don't want to simply recreate the animated film in the theatre. Remember that Rafiki on stage looks absolutely nothing like the character in the film (nor do any of the other Lion King characters, for that matter).

When I saw Aladdin on Broadway, I was a bit disappointed that it looked and felt essentially like a cartoon on stage. I think The Lion King is a far more successful and worthwhile theatrical work because it breathes new life into the source material. It doesn't feel limited to the "children's story" format like Aladdin did to me, and I'm glad to see that they're taking that route with Frozen.

[brian1973]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 8:33am

Anyone judging the show and predicting it being bad by 2 costume designs of MINOR costumes in the show are clearly stupid.

 

i for one am very excited to see this show.

[BroadwayGuy12]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 8:35am

At least the article provides confirmation that "Let It Go" is the act one finale.

 

ETA: Silly me. Didn't see that the Times article posted a few days ago already confirmed that.

Updated On: 8/11/17 at 08:35 AM

[CurtainPullDowner]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 10:10am

As usual, DISNEY is really saving money on the cast. As talented as they may be, they are all unknowns and most likely getting paid very little.

Yes, they have some Bradway credits but DISNEY is the Star once again.

It should do well unless they really screw it up.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 10:20am

As usual, DISNEY is really saving money on the cast. As talented as they may be, they are all unknowns and most likely getting paid very little.

And if they cast known celebrities or stars, they would be criticized for not taking chances on unknown talent and helping to foster careers (which they have always done with every single show).  Whatever they do is usually a lose-lose among musical theatre "fans", so it really doesn't matter.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 10:25am

I mean...how is casting young(ish) Broadway performers a negative in any way?

I've seen some of the set pieces (not the designs...the actual pieces)...they are absolutely gorgeous.  

[NYadgal]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 10:29am

And THAT is why I'll see this.

For the sets.  For that reason alone.  :)

[Lot666]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 10:32am

Mister Matt said: "As usual, DISNEY is really saving money on the cast. As talented as they may be, they are all unknowns and most likely getting paid very little.

And if they cast known celebrities or stars, they would be criticized for not taking chances on unknown talent and helping to foster careers (which they have always done with every single show).  Whatever they do is usually a lose-lose among musical theatre "fans", so it really doesn't matter."

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 10:53am

NYadgal said: "And THAT is why I'll see this.

For the sets.  For that reason alone.  :)

 

And you had best stand up and applaud them!!!!

 

[CurtainPullDowner]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 11:13am

Casting unkowns is not a "bad" idea, but they get to pay them very little.

Smart move but it is kinda taking advantage of these "unknowns" when DISNEY makes the big bucks.

It's a business, I get it.

[Lot666]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 11:29am

CurtainPullDowner said: "Casting unkowns is not a "bad" idea, but they get to pay them very little.

Smart move but it is kinda taking advantage of these "unknowns" when DISNEY makes the big bucks.

It's a business, I get it."

This argument confounds me. Over in the Great Comet threads, everyone's talking about how that show's producers shot themselves in the foot by creating the expectation of star casting, which they couldn't sustain. Hamilton, a show that is certainly "making the big bucks", has been full of people who were unknowns until that show made them stars. And for the record, Cassie Levy (Elsa) has been performing on Broadway in big shows for more than 10 years.

Everyone is an "unknown" at some point, until they get that big break (if they're lucky) that makes them a star. For this particular group of unknowns, maybe Frozen will be that lucky break.

[SonofRobbieJ]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 11:30am

I can't imagine Levy and Murin are getting less than $5k a week (and I'm being CRAZY conservative here).  There's no way they're working for scale.  

[Timothy Davis]

Posted: 8/11/17 at 11:36am

Aren't these the climbing boots?