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Posted: 2/1/12 at 3:07pm
And of course the brilliant final scene in which she stabs Carrie with a huge smile on her face because she is filled with such 'religious exhilaration' -- terrifying.
Marin's Mrs. White is just a grump. Again, for my money she's played in this revival just way too seriously. They try to humanize her to a degree that just isn't fun or interesting.
Posted: 2/1/12 at 3:08pm
"In Oz, the verb is douchifizzation." PRS
Posted: 2/1/12 at 3:17pm
I have to say, a lot of what's been said here has that the revival has been called "safe" in comparison to the original. I would agree that this version is certainly a lot more toned down than the original by the looks of it, but I think that the original and this version play to two different audiences. The original's stakes were high because it was playing in a big Broadway theatre and wanted to try to be this weird "musical for an MTV generation" concept piece, while at the time, the '76 film was still very relevant and fresh in the audiences' minds and the book certainly reflects that. This version has a totally different agenda - it wants to make Carrie an actual conventional musical for a modern audience, which is where I think people are harboring a lot of amnesty and disdain.
This Carrie wants to be good, and it wants to speak to a different generation and become successful. I'll admit it, it won't be the same if this piece ever gets big (i.e, transfers to Broadway or another bigger Off-Broadway house, or becomes licensable) because then it won't be the flop that we know in love anymore - it'll become a success, which some people on here seem to be very against the very idea of. But why should Carrie stay a cult-classic underground 80's musical meant only for flop-lovers and theatre fanatics? I think that it's both a good and bad thing that this Carrie is playing to a new audience. True, it's not the Carrie we knew and love: it's modern, it's smaller, it's whatever you want to call it, but I admire this revival a lot because of its differences, and while not all of you have to agree with me, I think more should see this revival from that viewpoint.
Posted: 2/1/12 at 3:18pm
Posted: 2/1/12 at 3:19pm
Is it in the writing of Margaret in this adaptation, or do you think it's more a directing/acting choice?
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Posted: 2/1/12 at 3:22pm
Yes, but taking yourself too seriously doesn't make you "good," "better," or "successful."
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Posted: 2/1/12 at 3:22pm
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Posted: 2/1/12 at 3:25pm
Bravo. "Play to a different generation," my foot. That's such a tired old card to play. Quality knows no generation.
Posted: 2/1/12 at 3:26pm
Bingo.
Posted: 2/1/12 at 3:32pm
But, in my opinion, the search as you say for 'conventionality' is robbing the piece of the very thing that makes it intriguing to begin with.
As as been discussed, nobody reads the book CARRIE because they want a realistic story about the hardships of the teen years; nobody watches the film because they want to see ultra realistic depiction of high school and bullying.
CARRIE has endured as a book and as a film because it takes the horrors of high school and sensationalizes them in a really juicy, gory, deliciously over the top allegory of revenge.
Sure we're supposed to feel sorry for Carrie, but we are also supposed to gasp in shock at her home life, be unnerved by her 'special powers' and cheer with satisfaction at her deathly payback to all those assholes who made her life hell.
Those are the elements that have made this a classic. These wonderfully wicked elements are what keeps this from being just another Judy Blue book. Trying to make it conventional for a mass audience is going to backfire because you can't do that without robbing the property of its entire appeal.
Updated On: 2/1/12 at 03:32 PM
Posted: 2/1/12 at 3:41pm
They talk very passionately about how relevant and contemporary the issues of bullying and religious zealots are today, but they've decided to approach those "very serious" themes ... very seriously.
The wonderful thing about Margaret is that some of those humorous moments MB pointed out from the film actually serve to make this "crazy woman" a little more accessible to the audience. We can laugh, even nervously, at her. Or at least laugh her off. It's the same thing with the other students. They should all have their funny moments, too. I love the scene with Nancy Allen and John Travolta in the car, where they go from flirty to smacking the hell out of each other and back again. Not taking someone like Margaret White or Chris or Billy seriously is one of the true horrors of bullies and religions zealots.
So, by making (especially) Margaret White more "serious" in a straightforward approach to the character, they've actually defanged her.
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Updated On: 2/1/12 at 03:41 PM
Posted: 2/1/12 at 3:46pm
Posted: 2/1/12 at 3:52pm
Maybe she's not so different, Carrie and we.
Posted: 2/1/12 at 4:17pm
We're living through this terribly unfortunate fad of "gritty reboots" in movies and "edgy re-toolings" on TV. Everything has to be "real" and "accessible" and "relatable" at the expense of flavor or uniqueness. I am sick of the humorlessness and ordinariness of nearly everything that's being cranked out.
Basically, pop culture is terrified of genre right now. But, of course, genre is what separates Carrie from an After School Special. A good adaptation of Stephen King's novel should respect the horror conventions that he used to surprise, move, and tickle his readers. If you're not going to use horror conventions to create your emotional experience, then don't do Carrie.
Of course, the original production failed on many levels to translate King to the stage. Still, its supreme weirdness has made it the object of cult obsession that it still is. It had buckets of personality and creepiness even if it didn't have buckets of blood. A Carrie that can't run on its own weirdness needs to at least honor what made the original work.
Posted: 2/1/12 at 4:26pm
Posted: 2/1/12 at 4:27pm
You've seen the clips of religious zealots on the news and on YouTube. Remember the Heaven's Gate crazy man, responsible for the mass suicide in Rancho Santa Fe, CA?
He talks like a children's TV show host. It's almost laughable. He's cheerful, accessible, and bright and sunny.
He's also deadly. And he's real.
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Updated On: 2/1/12 at 04:27 PM
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Posted: 2/1/12 at 5:08pm
I didn't notice they had interviews etc.. now.
(nvm I think it might have been mentioned earlier though).
Btw, they keep talking about how contemporary the themes are today with bullying etc
Because it is discussed a lot recently, do they address gay bullying at all e.g. through the ensemble/in "In"?
Updated On: 2/1/12 at 05:08 PM
Posted: 2/1/12 at 5:21pm
Amen! I can't get this song out of my head. Of all the songs that got cut, this one hurts the most.
Oh, and if they add it, can Molly sing it like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uedIMUuosnw
Love it...
Posted: 2/1/12 at 5:27pm
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