Steven Spielberg's WEST SIDE STORY - News & Discussion Thread- Page 34

[SpiritualGangster]

Posted: 9/18/21 at 12:26pm

dramamama611 said: "And other than the cops, and Pops (now Valentina) what other adults are jpreseent in either the film or stage versions? Am I forgetting a scene? "

Glad Hand who oversees the Dance at the Gym and Madame Lucia who owns the dress shop where Maria and Anita work.

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 9/18/21 at 12:43pm

Glad Hand, Lt. Shrank, Officer Krupke and Doc are the only adults seen on stage and in the film (not counting street people and other cops in the film). Madame Lucia is never seen on stage only in the film. Maria’s father is an off-stage/off-screen voice.

[ErmengardeStopSniveling]

Posted: 9/18/21 at 12:51pm

Take with a grain of salt, but according to IMDB, Harvey Evans and Bert Michaels (who both appeared in the original film) are in this! Which is a nice touch, if true.

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 9/18/21 at 12:56pm

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Take with a grain of salt, but according to IMDB, Harvey Evans and Bert Michaels (whoboth appeared in the original film) are in this! Which is a nice touch, if true."

https://ew.com/movies/west-side-story-russ-tamblyn-george-chakiris-react-spielberg-trailer/

[Musical Master]

Posted: 9/18/21 at 1:17pm

There's also a new character exclusively in this version named Abe played by Curtiss Cook, what role he has in this I don't know, but needless to say it's exciting.

[SpiritualGangster]

Posted: 9/18/21 at 1:23pm

The scene in the trailer where Bernardo refers to the apartment as his leads me to believe that Bernardo and Maria share it and that they do not live with their parents or that Bernardo and Anita live together and Maria is rooming with them perhaps?

[hearthemsing22]

Posted: 9/18/21 at 1:28pm

I am the only one who thinks it’s too early to be heaping all this praise on actors when we haven’t even seen them fully do the movie yet? It just seems really premature to me.

[NameGreg]

Posted: 9/18/21 at 6:48pm

I think the cast looks great, but I’ll agree at least when it comes to Rachel Zegler some of the praise is a bit ridiculous. I saw somebody claim it’ll be a crime if she’s not nominated for an Oscar without even seeing her full work. I think a lot of young theatre kids are clinging to somebody in their age range getting such a big break. Also the fact that she’s a got a great voice, that’s pretty much all it takes for a lot of millennial theatre fans to worship someone regardless of their actual performance.

[Globefan]

Posted: 9/18/21 at 7:38pm

The official IG page for the film had Rachel, Ariana, Ansel, David Alvarez and Mike Faist doing a publicity photoshoot for the film today. 

 

[degrassifan]

Posted: 9/18/21 at 8:19pm

Globefan said: "The official IG page for the film had Rachel, Ariana, Ansel, David Alvarez and Mike Faist doing a publicity photoshoot for the film today.”


I just saw! It’s great to have Ansel participate as well! 

 

 

[WestEndGal]

Posted: 9/18/21 at 9:30pm

NameGreg said: "I think the cast looks great, but I’ll agree at least when it comes to Rachel Zegler some of the praise is a bit ridiculous. I saw somebody claim it’ll be a crime if she’s not nominated for an Oscar without even seeing her full work. I think a lot of young theatre kids are clinging to somebody in their age range getting such a big break. Also the fact that she’s a got a great voice, that’s pretty much all it takes for a lot of millennial theatre fans to worship someone regardless of their actual performance."

Rachel has a wonderful voice and could well be amazing in this movie (I’m sure she’ll be good) but I agree that the worship is OTT before the movie has even been released! I kind of hate her twitter presence I’m ngl because it’s just endless thirsty pandering to the theater twitter standom, but it’s obviously working for her lol!

[Globefan]

Posted: 9/18/21 at 9:37pm

I can't wait for the press tour to begin 

[MissJennifer]

Posted: 9/18/21 at 11:00pm

SpiritualGangster said: "The scene in the trailer where Bernardo refers to the apartment as his leads me to believe that Bernardo and Maria share it and that they do not live with their parents or that Bernardo and Anita live together and Maria is rooming with them perhaps?"

I noticed this myself. It seems as if Maria's parents might not be in the picture in this version, but if that's the case I think it works pretty well. It ratchets up the impact of the murder...Maria loses not only her beloved older brother, but the only father figure she has. (BTW, according to IMDB this version gives Maria and Bernardo a surname...Vasquez.)

I gotta say, I also like that Maria talks back to Bernardo, reminding him that she's of age and has a say in her own life. With both of these elements in mind...I wonder if the "arranged-marriage-to-Chino" is still a thing, or if Chino's just going to be a suitor without the implied arranged marriage? You know, something along the lines of "Chino really likes you, querida, and he's a good man...give him a chance and go to this dance with him." I never thought to question it as a kid, but as I got older I always did wonder...if Maria's parents were so old-fashioned that they wanted to arrange their daughter's marriage, how come they were fine with Bernardo choosing his own partner? And for that matter, none of the other girls in Maria's circle seemed to be subjected to this. It did seem like one element from Romeo and Juliet that was rather anachronistic in the twentieth-century version. 

One thing I hope Spielberg has done: make it clear that the Prologue is taking place over several weeks or months. In the stage script, the Prologue is subtitled "The Months Before" and the stage directions bear this out--this is supposed to be an abstract representation, in music and dance, of an escalating conflict that's built up over a couple-three months, from the arrival of these first Puerto Rican immigrants to the actual start of our story, from minor skirmishes to an all-out brawl. The 1961 movie, according to the shooting script, was supposed to take advantage of the medium of film and convey this by showing the gangs in different changes of clothes as the Prologue went on, and by cutting from day to night to day again with each clash that broke out. But for some reason they scrapped this, not even showing the gangs in different clothes, and you got the (mistaken) impression that the whole conflict started and escalated in a single day. So I hope Spielberg takes advantage of the opportunities film gives him and conveys the passage of time during the Prologue.

[Globefan]

Posted: 9/19/21 at 12:10am

MissJennifer said: "SpiritualGangster said: "The scene in the trailer where Bernardo refers to the apartment as his leads me to believe that Bernardo and Maria share it and that they do not live with their parents or that Bernardo and Anita live together and Maria is rooming with them perhaps?"

I noticed this myself. It seems as if Maria's parents might not be in the picture in this version, but if that's the case I think it works pretty well. It ratchets up the impact of the murder...Maria loses not only her beloved older brother, but the only father figure she has. (BTW, according to IMDB this version gives Maria and Bernardo a surname...Vasquez.)

I gotta say, I also like that Maria talks back to Bernardo, reminding him that she's of age and has a say in her own life. With both of these elements in mind...I wonder if the "arranged-marriage-to-Chino" is still a thing, or if Chino's just going to be a suitor without the implied arranged marriage? You know, something along the lines of "Chino really likesyou, querida, and he's a good man...give him a chance and go to this dance with him." I never thought to question it as a kid, but as I got older I always did wonder...if Maria's parents were so old-fashioned that they wanted to arrange their daughter's marriage, how come they were fine with Bernardochoosing his own partner? And for that matter, none of the other girls in Maria's circle seemed to be subjected to this. It did seem like one element from Romeo and Juliet that was rather anachronistic in the twentieth-century version.

One thing I hope Spielberg has done: make it clear that the Prologue is taking place over several weeks or months. In the stage script, the Prologue is subtitled "The Months Before" and the stage directions bear this out--this is supposed to be an abstract representation, in music and dance, of an escalating conflict that's built up over a couple-three months, from the arrival of these first Puerto Rican immigrants to the actual start of our story, from minor skirmishes to an all-out brawl. The 1961 movie, according to the shooting script, was supposed to take advantage of the medium of film and convey this by showing the gangs in different changes of clothes as the Prologue went on, and by cutting from day to night to day again with each clash that broke out. But for some reason they scrapped this, not even showing the gangs in different clothes, and you got the (mistaken) impression that the whole conflict started and escalated in a single day. So I hope Spielberg takes advantage of the opportunities film gives him and conveys the passage of time during the Prologue."

I couldn't imagine Natalie Wood's Maria talking back to Bernardo 

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 9/19/21 at 12:14am

Look what happened when she talked back to Robert Wagner.....

[joevitus]

Posted: 9/19/21 at 1:43am

Sutton Ross said: "Look what happened when she talked back to Robert Wagner....."

How sick do you have to be to make a comment like that?

[Sutton Ross]

Posted: 9/19/21 at 2:29am

To state an actual fact? Well, considering you can never admit you are wrong, lied about your joining date, defended Amar hundreds of times and refuse to admit you said something on another thread....I would worry more about yourself, Joe. 

[joevitus]

Posted: 9/19/21 at 2:32am

Sutton Ross said: "To state an actual fact? Well, considering you can never admit you are wrong, lied about your joining date, defended Amar hundreds of timesand refuse to admit you said something on another thread....I would worry more about yourself, Joe."

Haven't lied about anything. Never defended Amar, said he couldn't get fired from WSS (I was right). Didn't lie about my joining date, I just didn't remember when it was because it didn't matter to me. And actually have admitted I was wrong on any number of occasions (to Jordon Catalano most recently, I think).

But you are a sicko obsessed with me, apparently.

[binau]

Posted: 9/19/21 at 4:42am

NameGreg said: "I think the cast looks great, but I’ll agree at least when it comes to Rachel Zegler some of the praise is a bit ridiculous. I saw somebody claim it’ll be a crime if she’s not nominated for an Oscar without even seeing her full work. I think a lot of young theatre kids are clinging to somebody in their age range getting such a big break. Also the fact that she’s a got a great voice, that’s pretty much all it takes for a lot of millennial theatre fans to worship someone regardless of their actual performance."

'Millennial' theatre fans can now be close to 40 years old haha. Surely there must be a new word to describe younger people these days? 

[Musical Master]

Posted: 9/19/21 at 11:05am

Globefan said: "The official IG page for the film had Rachel, Ariana, Ansel, David Alvarez and Mike Faist doing a publicity photoshoot for the film today." 

Is there a link to it?

[Globefan]

Posted: 9/19/21 at 11:38am

Musical Master said: "Globefan said: "The official IG page for the film had Rachel, Ariana, Ansel, David Alvarez and Mike Faist doing a publicity photoshoot for the film today."

Is there a link to it?"

It was on the official movie IG story which disappears after 24 hours 

[BrodyFosse123]

Posted: 9/19/21 at 11:58am

Musical Master said: "Globefan said: "The official IG page for the film had Rachel, Ariana, Ansel, David Alvarez and Mike Faist doing a publicity photoshoot for the film today."

Is there a link to it?"

Here ya goes-a:

https://streamable.com/n391ns

 

[Globefan]

Posted: 9/19/21 at 12:01pm

I wonder what the promo for the original film would've been like in a world where social media existed 

[Musical Master]

Posted: 9/19/21 at 12:49pm

Thanks BrodyFosse123, it's neat that all five of them are doing this promotion for the film. Once November comes around, the promotions and behind the scenes stuff will probably be in full swing.

^Probably would've treated it like an event, but the roadshow release back in 1961 did just that. Wow, I wish we can have roadshow theatrical releases with intermissions again, in fact the only one in recent years I could think of was Quintin Tarantino's The Hateful Eight.

[joevitus]

Posted: 9/19/21 at 2:41pm

Sutton Ross said: "Look what happened when she talked back to Robert Wagner....."

This is either a sick joke or a sick fantasy. No evidence Wood's death was caused by "talking back" to her husband. No one knows if Wagner was involved in her death. No one knows, to this day, exactly how she died.