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TITANÍQUE Reviews
Broadway Star Joined: 8/11/05
TITANÍQUE Reviews#75
Posted: 5/9/26 at 1:35pm
From Alex Ellis' Instagram:
"We all helped write that show. Six years of laying brick.
Reading after reading. Made it happen out-of-pocket. MANY HANDS ON DECK.
Many people added to that book. Many people helped not make it offensive.
You were shunned if asked for a writers credit. It would be NADA without the basement. Congrats to my inner circle OG's. We know."
TITANÍQUE Reviews#76
Posted: 5/9/26 at 1:50pm
First refusals are typically part of the Equity contract- somebody's agent can't negotiate that away (and if they even wanted to, you should fire them).
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/26/03
TITANÍQUE Reviews#77
Posted: 5/9/26 at 2:06pm
Kad said: "First refusals are typically part of the Equity contract- somebody's agent can't negotiate that away (and if they even wanted to, you should fire them)."
“The Off Broadway contract has no first right of refusal built in”
“I had the worst agents at the time who let an in perpetuity clause get through”
Two comments directly from Kathy Deitch on her post from April 14th.
TITANÍQUE Reviews#78
Posted: 5/9/26 at 2:16pm
That's not entirely correct- the Off-Broadway contract (17, conversion rights) does have conditional right of first refusal:
"Should the Producer, or should any management, group or enterprise, which the Producer controls or directs produce a play under this Agreement and subsequently produce the play under the Production Contract or Special Production Contract as its first subsequent production, the Producer agrees to offer any member of the Company employed on Equity contract who was originally engaged on the Off-Broadway Contract and who actually performed a role or function in the Off-Broadway production an opportunity to continue in the first subsequent production only. [...]The Producer agrees to reimburse any member of the Company employed on Equity contract not offered their same role or function three weeks' applicable Production or Special Production minimum for their category or three weeks' contractual salary, whichever is greater."
Considering how often shows transfer from off-Broadway to Broadway, it would be wild for the contract not to have something like that.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/18
TITANÍQUE Reviews#79
Posted: 5/9/26 at 2:25pm
The producers are probably trying to use the line "as its first subsequent production" as leverage, since the show has played the Daryl Roth, London, Australia, Canada, and France after the original UCB Basement production.
Broadway Star Joined: 12/9/23
TITANÍQUE Reviews#80
Posted: 5/9/26 at 2:27pm
DaveyG said: "Alex Ellis, the original Rose, claimed in an Instagram story that she and others from earlier productions helped write the book that is now Tony-nominated."
THIS is the claim I believe will hold the most water
TITANÍQUE Reviews#81
Posted: 5/9/26 at 2:32pm
ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "The producers are probably trying to use the line "as its first subsequent production"as leverage, since the show has played the Daryl Roth, London, Australia, Canada, and Franceafter the original UCB Basement production."
Yes, I would agree. There also does not seem to be ROFR language for an off-Broadway to off-Broadway transfer, which would've covered Deitch for the transfer to the Roth. Perhaps that is what she's talking about.
TITANÍQUE Reviews#82
Posted: 5/9/26 at 4:16pm
For those of us who aren't well educated on Equity contracts, what does an "in perpetuity" clause entail (and how does it differ from a ROFR clause)?
TITANÍQUE Reviews#83
Posted: 5/9/26 at 4:53pm
A perpetuity clause means that the affected contractual terms are in effect forever. I worked with AEA contracts for a number of years in a previous job and I honestly don’t know what specifically she would be referring to here. It wouldn’t have come from an Equity contract, but from either a rider to the contract or a separate contract entirely. But generally Equity doesn’t allow for riders that eliminate or undermine their contractual terms so I’m confused by that.
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/26/03
TITANÍQUE Reviews#84
Posted: 5/9/26 at 8:56pm
I could but wrong but I suspect there might been a contract signed when they were in a basement of the gristedes which I’m sure was not an Off Broadway contract & those term established certain terms in perpetuity. I doubt anyone thought the show would run for like 3 1/3 years off Broadway, to to London, and then move to Broadway. I’m honestly not sure when Eva Price got involved—I thought it was after this fact.
TITANÍQUE Reviews#85
Posted: 5/9/26 at 9:36pm
The basement production was most likely on that off Bway contract- it was a consolidation of a number of smaller contracts about a decade ago to streamline contracting smaller productions in NYC.
But regardless, it is generally the case that the Equity contract would supersede any other prior agreement that was made. Otherwise, members could be potentially coerced into signing things away by producers prior to signing their union contracts.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/18
TITANÍQUE Reviews#86
Posted: 5/11/26 at 8:33am
BroadwayGirl107 said: "I’m honestly not sure when Eva Price got involved—I thought it was after this fact."
She appears to have been involved with everything related to the show since that livestream concert in 2021.
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/26/03
TITANÍQUE Reviews#87
Posted: 5/11/26 at 11:14am
Kad—I don’t doubt the veracity of anything you’re saying here, but Deitch herself has said multiple times that she did not have ROFR in her contract and that her agents at the time negotiated it to be in perpetuity, which—even if this makes the contracts a contradictory mess—leaves me wondering why she’s trying to drag people and villainize them for contracts she knowingly signed, negotiated by her own team.
Again, sure, if there’s a payout to be made here because the contracts did not abide by Equity rules…okay. Then have Equity deal with it.
The social media call outs reek of desperate attempts for attention and seem like a great way for her to ensure people never want to hire her again. She’s basically telling people that even if she’s party to a mistake, instead of going through proper channels, she will try and tarnish people’s reputation for some likes and reshares
TITANÍQUE Reviews#88
Posted: 5/11/26 at 12:22pm
Deitch has largely been pretty vague, so it's hard to know exactly what she's talking about. What little she has offered simply does not align with the reality of AEA contracts, so it may very well she is referring to something else or conflating different things. It's possible that the producers exploited a ROFR loophole in that the Broadway transfer wasn't at all the first subsequent production and that's what she means. Perhaps that cast signed a separate contract regarding rights to the show itself, which would be out of AEA jurisdiction, and that's where the perpetuity thing comes in, but it's hard to say. I agree her actions on social media right now are a self-serving muddle.
TITANÍQUE Reviews#89
Posted: 5/11/26 at 1:58pm
BroadwayGirl107 said: "Kad said: "First refusals are typically part of the Equity contract- somebody's agent can't negotiate that away (and if they even wanted to, you should fire them)."
“The Off Broadway contract has no first right of refusal built in”
“I had the worst agents at the time who let an in perpetuity clause get through”
Two comments directly from Kathy Deitch on her post from April 14th."
To clarify: the in perpetuity comment is about the B-Roll payment. The usage for that is in perpetuity.
TITANÍQUE Reviews#90
Posted: 5/11/26 at 2:39pm
Stephanie J. Block created Elphaba and didn’t receive nominations for her work in the creative process. Sherie Rene Scott was the original Diana in Next to Normal (Feeling Electric). Is it safe to say that she had no creative input in the refinement of the character or tweaking of the book? If she did, should she have also been nominated for the creative categories?
Not sure where one would draw the line with honoring actors in previous productions and workshops.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/18
TITANÍQUE Reviews#91
Posted: 5/11/26 at 5:18pm
Improv is the key difference, and the thing that might actually get traction if the original actors want to sue. That’s what makes it different from Wicked or N2N. It’s also why the original Workshop contract was developed after A CHORUS LINE opened.
We the public will never know what these people actually contributed. If it’s three jokes, does that mean they deserve a royalty and a writing credit? What if they improvised a line and then the authors morphed it into something else and put it into the script? I don’t know how you’d decide or pro-rate any of this - but I’m not a lawyer or a writer.
TITANÍQUE Reviews#92
Posted: 5/11/26 at 9:51pm
i'm not an entertainment lawyer, and appreciate the insight from Kad here, but having looked at Deitch's posts and doing the most cursory review of some google hits, she is really doing herself no favors.
i have no doubt she helped guide the character's arc in the years of development but that is not the same thing as being a writer. and her own interview back in 2022 is going to come back to bite her, because she describes getting a call from Tye Blue about a show "that he had written with his friends" or something like that, and she then jumped at the chance to be a part of it.
i can understand her frustration at being left out of writing credits back in the day, but once writers were given credit in 2022 or whatever it was, didnt her ship sail?
i also find it frustrating to see some (including deitch) complain because the producers behind titanique are billionaires. i think being a billionaire should be illegal, tax the f out of them by all means, but you dont get writing credits or royalties because the billionaire CAN pay you, you get it because he legally or even equitably SHOULD.
anyway i am guessing this doesnt go very far, and sniping at mindelle while shes working so hard on this little show, seems unkind
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/26/03
TITANÍQUE Reviews#93
Posted: 5/11/26 at 10:09pm
Huh? What producer of Titanique is a billionaire? As far as I know Price is the lead producer of the show and I dont see why anyone would think she’s a billionaire, lol.
Are people referring to coproducers? Do they realize that coproducers are either just investors or vanity credits for fund raising? Not the people handling contracts or doing the hiring…
TITANÍQUE Reviews#94
Posted: 5/11/26 at 10:43pm
Facts dont matter on the interwebs, but yes, its right there in her IG comments about how the "BILLIONAIRE PRODUCER" is the one refusing to pay her, and she commented "this part" or some sort of approval. my eyes hurt from rolling.
TITANÍQUE Reviews#95
Posted: 5/12/26 at 3:40pm
This was the last of the 17 shows that I watched in 9 days and what a blast to end this marathon.
I saw ''Titanique'' in Brazil last year, but this almost slapstick humor really fits the english language even better, I really liked all the away through (also, why they say its 90 minutes??), and I'm IN LOVE with Marla Mindelle and Layton Williams, the Tony nominators couldn't be more right about these noms.
Marla has a strong stage presence and a pitch perfect timing when comes to comedy, but then again I would say most of the cast is very good with these characters minus maybe Deborah Cox and certainly Frankie Grande but certainly not a problem as a whole.
Jim Parsons has that scene that is amazing, John Riddle's voice is perfect and the way they act is like a very family feeling that keeps everything tied together.
Yes, it's not exactly a musical sometimes and the direction/choreography is mundane in some moments, but it just works and by the time it ended I wanted to go out and party because that feeling really stood out to me the most.
I will say Layton as the iceberg and commanding the lipsync has to be one of the best parts this Broadway season, absolutely LOVED IT - and would give him the Tony.
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/4/04
TITANÍQUE Reviews#97
Posted: 5/15/26 at 4:37pm
Oddly, they seem to have pulled their discount code, which was a pretty decent discount, and it’s not like they are suddenly selling out. Just looking at tonight and there are tons of tickets available. And they are at TKTS for every single performance. Seems like a pretty stupid move to me.
Broadway Star Joined: 8/11/05
TITANÍQUE Reviews#98
Posted: 5/15/26 at 5:02pm
Drama!
Titanique's Tangled Scandal
TITANÍQUE Reviews#99
Posted: 5/15/26 at 5:06pm
Just finished reading it. This seems like a mess.
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