As a non student, this sucks!
Lottery makes theater available to those of us with limited funds AND time.
Student Rush means I can't get tix AND HOURS waiting for first come first served (LINES LINES LINES)for Students!!!
Without a lottery, I wound not have been able to see Wicked and Rent, (still trying for Q lol).
Oh well, Strike 2 - Disney wins again... 1st they won't hire me cause I have a beard, (even to sell CD's and Programs at "The Lion King" in Ft Lauderdale) now this....
...but if you show up exactly two hours before, there will already be a line of people down the block. I'm sure Ali (and all the rest of us) will want to get there a couple hours early to guarantee that she will get a ticket.
1st they won't hire me cause I have a beard
OK, what's THAT story?
WithoutATrace, point taken.
Updated On: 4/5/06 at 10:07 AM
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
Disney wants a clean-cut image, which makes them adverse to facial hair. I don't blame them , I think facial hair is gross, but I digress. As for the change, I don't like how they discriminate against grad students, who are just as poor as undergrads. I wonder how closely they check IDs. I know Jersey Boys didn't even look at mine.
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On second thought, I wonder if the production was asked by the city to stop lottery. As much as I love the lottery, the sidewalk in front of Richard Roger is not good for the amount of crowd for its lottery.
Anyway, this is a bad news for me.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
"On second thought, I wonder if the production was asked by the city to stop lottery. As much as I love the lottery, the sidewalk in front of Richard Roger is not good for the amount of crowd for its lottery."
Under that logic then the city should shut down pedestrian traffic in Times Square. The city cannot tell them to NOT do a lottery, at most they can restrict where they do business. But I doubt they did it in this case. Plus Tarzan isn't the only show with a lottery. Avenue Q frequently blocks pedestrian traffic as dies RENT and (sometimes) Hairspray.
So I just reread Tom Schumacher's statement, and he wants the show to be accessible for students. But by doing the rush at the same time (6pm) as the lotto, the students would have been able to go enter the lotto, and not waste hours of their day sitting around on the sidewalk outside the theaterwhen they should be studying (if Tom is so big on students).
The show had great publicity with the lotto- tourists, locals, people of all ages could enter. Lots of people on the sidewalk, a guy yelling with a megaphone, it brought a lot of attention and people would come over to see the attraction. Now, there will be a bunch of teenagers sitting outside the theater all day, I don't think parents or tourists who are visiting in town will want to go if they think teens are the target audience.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/21/05
"Now, there will be a bunch of teenagers sitting outside the theater all day, I don't think parents or tourists who are visiting in town will want to go if they think teens are the target audience."
Well, this is how RENT first started, they switched to a lottery after what, a year? If people start camping out I think we'll see Disney eliminate it all together or go back to the lottery.
Agreed, I hope they get rid of the rush soon.
Honestly, they need to do like Beauty and the Beast, or Lion King- CHANGE THE THEATER. Sales are open til what, October? Close the show for a month, 6 weeks, whatever, and reopen for the holidays in a new theater with better sight lines and a larger amounts of seats to accomodate more audience members. Then do a student rush or a lotto if they want to have that policy.
This is pure ageism(sic)
I'm sure it is a business deal to sell those obstructed view seats cheaper and sell first row for Top dollar.
I'm sure it is a business deal to sell those obstructed view seats cheaper and sell first row for Top dollar.
Of course it is. No one was buying full price orchestra seats in the front row or the back rows. They're potentially losing lots of money. It's better for them to fix this "problem" now before it opens than to have it while open and struggling to get people to see the show. I think it's a smart move for them. This in no way is trying to help out the students of America.
That said, I may actually try for the student rush now. But if the seats are in the obstructed view areas, I might wait to get the money and buy a full-price ticket. And if that's the case, I'd rather have a lottery.
~Steven
Broadway Star Joined: 12/11/05
"How can you still do it if you're not undergrad... are you going to cheat the system and deprive poor undergrads from seeing Tarzan?" -dreaminarent
Excuse me if I sound offensive to anyone (in advance).
Undergraduate students are NOT the only "poor" people who benefitted from lotteries. On the average, graduate students are actually poorer than undergrads (who tend to have their parents' support). These rush policies infuriate me as a graduate student. I've got far less money than I did as an undergrad, yet many places (like Tarzan) think I should be paying full price.
And for those who have recently (or those not recently) graduated from grad school or undergrad, student loans are quite expensive to be paying off!!
I support this idea...I think the people who are willing to work their ass off to get to the theatre and get in line should get the tickets. Now, I personally probably won't be one of those people, but I know how expensive it can be to see a show in New York.
It could always be worse...there could be NO lotto or student rush. Quit your b****ing...if you wanna see the show that damn bad, but a ticket full price.
Grrrr...
Those of us who have our degrees, yet are still po' get gypped by this.
the press release from Disney didnt say anything about the student rush being for the obstructed view seats - maybe they will still be the front row tickets they were holding for the lottery - why dont we wait and see before bashing them for putting the poor students in the obstructed view seats - if that proves to be the case, then bash away, but until then, good for them for giving the opportunity to students to see the show for 20 bucks - i do however agree that it shouldnt be limited to undergrad students, as few grad students have money to spare
In terms of the studying vs. waiting in line all day...of course this doesn't apply to all students, but when it's me doing something like that, I bring my homework and actually get a lot more studying done while waiting on the line than I do when I'm at home because then I go on BWW instead of studying.
And I'm not sure, but is it premature to be assuming there will be huge lines and people waiting for HOURS? I honestly don't know, and am generally curious. I mean, I don't see why it would be so different from most rushes, where people tend to get there 2 hours early the earliest.
And I honestly didn't expect lotto or rush or anything for Tarzan, since Disney doesn't do that with Beauty and the Beast or the Lion King.
I don't mind that they are going to do a rush policy instead of lotto. If you are willing to wait for the seat, then great...you should get a ticket. BUT, I don't agree with a student Rush, especially for only undergrad students. I had way more money when I was undergrad. I like general rush better because it allows anyone who may not be able to pay full price get tickets. But then you have more problems with scalpers buying them. So I think they need to maybe limit the amount of times you can do it like they did for Chicago back in it's day. You could only rush once a month I believe. They made copies of your ID supposedly. I don't know how true that is, but some kind of system that helped stop scalpers from getting in line everyday would be good. Hmmm maybe the lotto is a better system :)
even though the seats may suck, it's kind of exciting. easier for m to get in. at least when it stops selling out (summer, mayhaps?).
I predict Disney is true to their fine print and scraps this entire rush/lotto thing by the end of the summer. "Subject to Availability" could basically mean never.
Right now, people get to Jersey boys around 7am for the rush tickets that go on sale at 11. People are already in line at 11 for the rush tickets that go on sale at 4:30.
And I wouldn't count on it not being sold out this summer.
WRQ- You get homework done? I have done rush with you before, you don't study!! You talk to everyone around you.
Yeah, but this is a Disney show. There is NO way they are going to allow a crowd of teenagers sleeping and camping out outside of the theatre.
First time that happens, they will scrap the student rush tickets.
Updated On: 4/5/06 at 01:27 PM
When I'm alone Liotte :-P Or depending on how pressing the need to get my HW done is. Usually it's not very pressing. That's not my fault...
Wow, sorry. I don't do rush that often, didn't realize how early people are getting there for them.
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I believe that the front row will probably be for student rush. Look at Movin Out and how it was able to accept ID in the front row. In fact, the front row is probably more likely to be obstructed because you have to look up the whole time.
The front row is awesome, and definitely not obstructed. It's just close. I loved sitting there, whether for Tarzan, Movin' Out, Seussical, Footloose, etc.
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