The Cher Show — Page 21

justasmalltownboy13 said: "goldenboy said: "3 Chers? 3 Donnna Summers?
Why does this sound just like the Donna Summer musical."

I feel like the Cher Show has been in development well beyond the Donna Summer musical. As for the 3 Cher’s/3 Donna’s - is it not interesting to you to see different actresses depict the subject in 3 different stages of their lives, seeing how UCB they change throughout. It’s not a rip off of each other or anything, but simply the change in their lives. Would you cast the same person tonolay the same role in YOUR musical? Assuming you might have a story worth telling?"

Well, Adrienne Warren is pulling it off with Tina in London, Jessie Mueller (and subsequent Caroles) pulled it off with Beautiful - I'm sure there are more, but those were the two that popped into my head.

I actually like the 3 Chers concept, especially in terms of this particular show. Comparing The Cher Show with Summer is like comparing a nice pair of pants with a crappy pair from a retail store, if you get what I mean!

Mister Matt said: "This has made HUGE improvements in a short month.

From what you mentioned, the improvements sound quite minor. Perhaps slightly (very very slightly) more coherent, but this reminds me of the day-to-day reports of the "MASSIVE" changes made during The Pirate Queen tryout in Chicago, resulting in "a completely different show!". :-I

If The Cher Show were to open on Broadway in its current state, it will still get eviscerated by the critics. Praise for performers and costumes, but not much else."

...please tell me you didn't just compare The Pirate Queen with The Cher Show. Just... tell me that didn't happen!

YvanEhtNioj said: "Sho-Tunes-R-Us said: "CarlosAlberto said: "Valentina3 said: "CarlosAlberto said: "



That's a very homophobic picture of Cher

Explain to me just how in the world this particular photo of Cher is homophobic?

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I think/hope Valentina3 meant to say "photogenic". Spellcheck error?"



Lol "Homophobic" is a gay slang for unflattering / bad.

Used in a sentence "I want to take a selfie, but this lighting is homophobic".

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Well, THIS gay dint know it was. lol I'll be using it early and often from now on. Thanks.

EllieRose2 said: ""Lol "Homophobic" is a gay slang for unflattering / bad."

That's the dumbest thing I've heard in my life.Jesus Christ.Let's save that word when needed, meaning to call someone out who is discriminating against the LGBTQ+ community. "

Lol. Then I guess it’s a great thing that you don’t have to use it, huh? It’s really not that serious.



Anyway..



I’m really hoping that the show gets a revamp before it hits Broadway even though it’s a small gap. Cher seems like the type of person to be a perfectionist so she will most likely be hands-on throughout the process ... hopefully

...please tell me you didn't just compare The Pirate Queen with The Cher Show. Just... tell me that didn't happen!

Yes, I did. Why? They are both musicals with Chicago tryouts, starring Stephanie J. Block. Both shows had terrific casts with some solid music (whether written for the show or not), terrible books and fans reporting massive changes during the tryout period. They can easily be compared and personally, both shows were around the same level as far as quality goes. I'd give Pirate Queen the edge only because I was actually interested to see it twice, towards the beginning and the end of the tryout run (the HUGE changes being enthusiastically reported in the BWW threads were actually barely perceptible).

When a word that actually refers to a serious issue is appropriated for use in a frivolous, jocular manner, it diminishes the gravity of the real issue.

My thoughts exactly. It would be hypocrisy of Trumpian proportions of the LGBT community to scorn the use of the word "gay" as slang meaning stupid/ridiculous/bad while jokingly using "homophobic" similarly as slang. "It's not that serious" sounds like something Perez Hilton or a Log Cabin Republican would say (i.e. irresponsible, immature, ignorant and apathetic).

As the person who used the word here, here's my 2 cents :

1. Language evolves: we use the word "Nazi" for just about anything these days. I know it seems to minimize the word and the true history behind it, but I doubt people using the word jocularly ever mean to diminish its impact - they're instead being dramatic about whatever is going on. True use of the word Nazi is still very easily recognizable for what it is. It didn't lose its meaning just because some people started calling other people who write "there vs their" essays Grammar-Nazis.

2. Baby gays did not invent the use of word "homophobic" as a gay slang - I personally know people used it as such dating back to 1980s (my drag mother has letters from her favorite club owner from 1987 saying her jewelry choices were "homophobic". I presume that gays are more or less reclaiming the word (queer and f-word come to mind). I know I did. I call my previous employer homophobic because he was (my job offer made to me during the internship was rescinded after I was outed by someone), and I also say Cher's bad photos are homophobic. I will probably continue to do so, especially after this misplaced moral policing; for crying out loud you called this "Trumpian" (no kids were kidnapped by an off hand comment - so you calling anonymous posters on a chat board "Trumpian" jocularly is... see where I'm going with this?).

3. You're allowed to hate the jocular use of the word. Your experiences are different than other people. I have had both experiences and I'm comfortable in this usage.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

Kad said: "Really, people have never seen an ironic use of "homophobic" to describe something trivial? (ie- "schedulingyour birthday partyon Pride Weekend is homophobic." )

Mary, please."

I can honestly say that I have never before seen/heard the word "homophobic" used in the manner presented in this thread.

Mary, please, indeed.

Updated On: 7/17/18 at 11:46 AM

YvanEhtNioj said: "Agree to disagree. I guess I’m a moron because I definitely use it casually. **shrugs** I’m new here, but I’ve read this board for years. And I just don’t like how everything has to become such a big deal. It’s not that serious.

It really has nothing to do with The Cher Show, though... although given the reviews of the show, I guess you can say some of the choices are, well, homophobic"

I apologize for the moron comment. I don’t find the phrase offensive just silly.

Hopefully, they can tighten this up before Broadway because with the talent involved and the Cher adulation, this seems more promising than most jukebox musicals.

Maybe it’s my Millennial mindset that let’s me know the difference between cheesy gay slang, and actual hatred for my community without causing an issue.

Maybe. Maybe it also tells you to use an apostrophe incorrectly. The act of doing so doesn't turn a wrong into a right, however.

YvanEhtNioj, it's way too late to quit while you're ahead, so just quit.

You have no sense of history, nor any kind of respect. You are either naive or a troll.

And I am not your "homie", child.