The end of SARA RAMIREZ's career?- Page 6

[GirlforTartaglia]

Posted: 8/14/05 at 8:33pm

I think Sara has a lot of vocal control but stresses herself out trying to get everything perfectly.

[Cabchic]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 8:23am

I'm not a singer so I'm not sure what the difference is between using your head voice as opposed to chest voice, so I wouldn't be able to tell the difference, but didn't Idina tend to crack a lot during performances? Maybe like previously stated, Sara is working hard to make sure her performance is perfect and thus straining her voice. If Hank Azaria has needed steroids for his voice, and he hardly sings(although the different voices might be a strain) I can see how Sara would have trouble with hers and she is giving her all on every song.

[Corine2]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 8:32am

Reidel picks one woman each season to make his enemy.
1. Donna Murphy
2. Bernadette
3. Sara Ramirez
I am sick of it. It is disgusting. I have never had the pleasure of seeing Spamalot (hopefully before it closes in 2010) I will get a chance to see it. But, I am really sick of Reidel's bullying of the talented women on Broadway.
IT MAKES ME SICK!

[popcultureboy]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 10:42am

I don't think it's quite that simple, dear.

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 10:59am

Riedel didn't make Donna Murphy miss 100 performances (or whatever the number is). Riedel hasn't caused Ramirez to miss three or four performances a week. He just reports the facts and what people in Broadway circles think of this kind of absenteeism (not much clearly). Riedel is a weasel, but blaming him for "picking on" these women, when they miss dozens of shows (and don't clearly explain why) is just shooting the messenger.

If Ramirez wants to stop the gossip, she should sit down and have an interview with him, explain what her recurrent problems are that are causing her to miss dozens of performances, be charming, and he'll probably stop reporting on her absenses so frequently.

Updated On: 8/15/05 at 10:59 AM

[gymman]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 11:00am

Reidel is merely reporting the way producers and others are talking; these are the powers that be, and so he is telling us what folks are saying. Why is it so hard for people on this board to understand that? This is not what he is saying, but what he hears--he's a gossip reporter.

[popcultureboy]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 11:11am

And Margo is right. With Bernadette it was a case of sour grapes as she declined an interview with him I seem to recall and in the end, she only missed 8 shows of Gypsy due to illness in previews, and 1 during the run to be with her husband while he had surgery. So where Ms Peters was concerned, she just let her attendance speak for itself. With Donna Murphy, there were obviously genuine reasons why she was out so much and obviously those reasons were kept private. Fair enough. But someone somewhere should have made a statement along the ill health lines to shut Riedel up and get him off Murphy's back.

[BwayLover]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 12:26pm

"But someone somewhere should have made a statement along the ill health lines to shut Riedel up and get him off Murphy's back."

Exactly- and that someone was the producers! It wasn't Murphy's fault they didn't, and yet she is getting all the bad rep from it. It just makes me so mad.

[Magdalene]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 12:28pm

Hank vs Sara (not that it's a contest!)---She HAS had vocal training as a singer, he has NOT. That can make a difference, especially if you aren't used to the vigors of 8 shows a week.

[Corine2]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 12:31pm

Why doesn't Reidel pick on men?
Oh, wait there was that Angus incident.

[MargoChanning]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 12:34pm

His last column spent as much time on Tim Curry being difficult backstage and missing performances as it did on Ramirez.

[Ladyofthe Lake]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 12:38pm

"His last column spent as much time on Tim Curry being difficult backstage and missing performances as it did on Ramirez."

It mentioned him missing performances, yes. But where did it say anything about him being difficult backstage? Other than quoting him as saying (semi-jokingly) "I'm too old for this," I didn't see anything about his behavior.

[bwayondabrain]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 1:26pm

in the article, it said something about cancelling performances, or something like that-does it mean if too many people keep missing shows, they'll just CANCEL the performance? they should just fire them!
do these people still get paid for performances they miss?
wow...

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 2:07pm

They do not get paid when they miss a performance.

[bella cantato]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 3:34pm

This thread is making me so, very annoyed.

First of all. It's the New York POST, people. The king of false accusations and exaggerated stories.

Secondly.

All these people coming in here saying, "Well I heard she was a total diva" and "I have sources that say she has tantrums" etc etc etc. This is a MESSAGE BOARD, folks! I could come on here and say that Sara is my BEST FRIEND and that I spend every single second of the day with her and that she NEVER has thrown a tantrum in her life and could you prove me wrong? NO. As far as I am concerned, and I think as far as the rest of you are concerned, none of these accusations should have any weight.

Lastly. You all hare having way too much fun ripping into this woman. Lennon review thread, anyone?? Please, none of us know her, we don't know what her situation is. Is the fact that there are a lot of Broadway stars missing shows a problem? Yes. But is eight shows a week exhausting and could it just be possible that maybe Sara is having emotional or health issues that we don't know about and are really NONE OF OUR BUSINESS?? YES!

So how about this. Let's leave Sara alone. Let her do her thing. If she has to miss shows, well, that's how life goes. So you miss her performance? Life goes on. Many people have stated that she has been more than charming at the stage door and I give her credit for that. The stage door is totally unnecessary and unobligatory and the fact that she has even done it ONCE in her life says something, in my oh so very humble opinion. So please. Leave Sara alone!

[popcultureboy]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 5:42pm

Overreact much?

[MojaniD]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 5:49pm

My sentiments exactly. Someone got up on the wrong side of the bed today.

[KJisgroovy]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 7:43pm

The idea that we shouldn't "rip into this woman" because this is a message board is silly. Isn't that the point of a message board? Who cares what anyone types on a fun broadway message board? What I have to say about Sara Ramirez would seem to offend less people than when a Tony winning performer misses a performance. The idea that Mr. Reidel should leave a perfomer alone is also silly. He's a gossip columnist from the New York Post. That's his job... which he does quite well thank you very much. No one has to read what he writes... no one has to give it any credit. Sara Ramirez is a public figure... a real up and coming broadway star... this is what comes with all of that. It always has... there have always been bitchy broadway fans and there have always been poison pen gossip columnists ( and they used to be more powerful and larger in number). If Sara Ramirez wants to miss performances for ANY reason... people are going to dissapointed. To undermine people's dissapointment at missing a star performance undermines the talent of said performer. If I come from Chicago to see a performer in a show... you can be damn sure I'll be dissapointed if that performer is out. Certainly life goes on. But just as certainly I'm going to bitch about it.

Get off your high horse.

kc

[Pinguin]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 7:58pm

bella, this is partly a gossip board; of course we're going to talk about these kinds of things, and I highly doubt Riedel is just some crazy NY post man setting out to fabricate crazy stories about these broadway stars to ruin their careers.

I loved Sara's performance in the show, but frequently missing shows is unacceptable. People have been doing the 8 shows a week for decades and survived. She and Curry are public figures and when they continue to shirk their responsibilities and their work, people have a right to talk about it on a darn broadway message board.

And people who think this is some sort of sexist plot are being ridiculous; if Sara and Donna showed up for work, they wouldn't be in the column.

[Ruth Sherwood]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 7:59pm

Yes, it is disappointing to miss a performer in a show, and if you want to "bitch" about it go ahead. But I think to "bitch" about it for a long time is immature.

[bella cantato]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 8:06pm

Whoa, wait a second. So you guys are allowed to bitch about Sara and say she is terrible for missing performances, but when someone stands up to defend her, all of a sudden I'm up on my "high horse"? I don't think so.

Look, there are plenty of you up on YOUR high horses, looking down your nose at Sara for missing performances. Fine. But I think it's wrong to make assumptions about her, to spread rumors, and I certainly am going to voice my opinion about that too.

[Ruth Sherwood]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 8:10pm

I never said to make assumptions or spread rumors. I said it's ok to be a little angry and disappointed for a short time. I never said take it out on the performer.

[bella cantato]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 8:12pm

Ruth, I wasn't directing that at you. Sorry if you thought I was! I understand expressing dissappointment, or even being a little angry at first. That's not what I was saying was wrong.

[Pinguin]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 8:15pm

bella, I don't have a problem with you saying that Sara's a great person or that you think she can miss any performances she wants to or that you think that the gossip columnist portrayed her unfairly, but

"You all hare having way too much fun ripping into this woman. Lennon review thread, anyone??...Is the fact that there are a lot of Broadway stars missing shows a problem? Yes. But is eight shows a week exhausting and could it just be possible that maybe Sara is having emotional or health issues that we don't know about and are really NONE OF OUR BUSINESS?? YES!"

you were ripping the fact that we were discussing it at all, and "we were having too much fun" being mean. the rest of your post I have no qualm with.

[bella cantato]

Posted: 8/15/05 at 8:19pm

Pinguin--

Perhaps I was caught up in the heat of the moment. But I cannot help but express my feelings that people were taking a certain amount of glee in the idea that Sara was a diva, or having diva tantrums, or that she won't have success because of it. Maybe you're not seeing it from my point of view. But I feel like people enjoy ripping Sara apart at the first opportunity they get.

I didn't mean for it to sound like it shouldn't be discussed. But I thought it was totally out of hand, and coming from a biased perspective. (And let the record show that nowhere I said, "You shouldn't discuss this at all.")