The great irony: homophobic conservatives who love RENT — Page 10

The first season is hopefully coming out. this is from tvshowsondvd.com :

Designing Women - Sony has plans for season 1
Posted by Gord Lacey
7/14/2005


We just received a call from a Sony rep asking us to post some news to the site. The company has tentative plans to release the first season of the show in early 2006. Some of you noticed that the set was listed on the recent insert packaged with Bewitched: Season 1. The title was inadvertently added to the insert, but it got fans excited, and Sony noticed the enthusiasm.

Updated On: 8/5/05 at 11:47 AM

Well said, BlueWizard.

Bigots/Homophobes/"RegularEverydayPeople": How would you feel if someone said that they did not "support" your EXISTENCE? That they are bothered and made uncomfortable by the fact that you are ALIVE, with hopes and dreams just like other human beings?

Now imagine that the person who is saying this to you has never even met you. They don't know you and don't care to know you.

Imagine how you would feel.

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spider, if you add "some of my best friends are gay", I'll be forced to smack you........

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well then, you need to meet some, we're great people!

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Whoa. Reading the last ten pages was a whirlwind. Seriously, it felt like a hurricane was throwing bricks around my brain. At least people are now being (mostly) agreeable. I gotta say, it's a sad day when theater people feel that they can't discuss their beliefs in a logical manner. I know the following has been said before, but I feel it needs more airtime. We, and when I say we, I mean theater people, are of various backgrounds, beliefs, and lives. But we share a common love of one thing: theater. We are not different from any other group of people who share a common interest, though we tend to get more passionate about our beliefs, which seems to be the general rule for this thread. I must say this: while we can be passionate, and must feel free to be, we cannot, must not resort to name-calling, insults, or anything of the sort. We are all equal people, and must act towards each other in a manner that would show this. We must realize that people are free to hold their own beliefs, just as we hold ours. We must keep open minds in this way, realizing that some people will adhere to their beliefs like glue, because that is part of who they are. We must feel free to disagree with other beliefs because they conflict with our own; however, we should not attack that belief on that same basis, for that will lead nowhere. People will not always have open minds. That is true of both sides of the argument. Feel free to disagree with any of what I've just said. Just don't attack me for it.

This being said, I fully embrace my hypocrisy of being intolerant of intolerance. YAY!

I am so tired of people slamming programs like "Queer Eye" and "Will and Grace" for "pandering to stereotypes." Very few of us don't live up to a few stereotypes--I'd say there are more than a few "showtune queens" who contribute to this board regularly, and probably several of them are good cooks and snappy dressers. Are we supposed to throw out the good with the bad? The portraits of gayness found in "Queer Eye" and "Will and Grace" are infinitely preferable to those found on well-intentioned Lifetime TV-style message movies, where the "message" is that gay people can be as boring and dreary as everyone else.

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BlueWizard, I understand and agree with a lot of your poitns, but perhaps these shows are apolitical for a reason. Maybe they don't want homophobes to think "There's only a gay man on this show to lecture us...". If ANY show gets too political it could sound like nagging and almost lsoe the entertainment factor. I wouldnt want people to think it's just the writer's way of lecturing. Did that make sense?

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Tonite I had to walk out of WEDDING CRASHERS. Deeply offensive (and boring).

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BlueWizard, do you really prefer the afterschool special/Lifetime Network/"sensitive" coming-out movie approach to homosexual material? Weepy melodramatic speeches from no-dimensional characters who are defined solely by their sexuality? That's a far shallower approach than the "Will and Grace" one, where the characters are living their lives, cracking jokes, and existing with their sexuality, rather than treating it as a constant burden.

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Actually, "The Truth About Jane" was a great film with Superb acting from both Ellen Muth and Stockard Channing. Anyone who is gay can relate to this film. That was a Lifetime movie that brought me to tears...and there was nothing stereotyp[ical about it...Unlike Queer As Folk, which makes the straight community think that we are all about sex and drugs and HIV...
It's sad how these shows define us.

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The problem is that we have become a nation that automatically groups

Republican/Conservative/Christian

and

Democratic/Liberal/Atheist or non-Christian

when in reality there are combinations of every kind of the above.

You CAN be conservative and gay or Christian and gay or Christian and liberal, etc etc etc.

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Sorry for the double post:

Edit: I felt that an objective standpoint had become a necessary point to absolve the repetitive arguments that had been getting us nowhere.