Posted: 12/8/25 at 4:19pm
BrodyFosse123 said: "So Erivo just got her Golden Globe nomination. WTF?!"
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Posted: 12/8/25 at 4:24pm
BrodyFosse123 said: "So Erivo just got her Golden Globe nomination. WTF?! "
There was never doubt she would. Maybe word was slow to get under your rock?
Posted: 12/8/25 at 9:10pm
jacobsnchz14 said: "BrodyFosse123 said: "The WICKED films have now come and gone. The over saturation of press interviews and appearances are done and hopefully after the Oscars we can now move on from this WICKED bit. Curious what’s the next Broadway musical film adaptation slated for attacks?"
After the Actors on Actors yesterday, I want Jonny Bailey and David Corenswet in Guys & Dolls ASAP."
If Rob Marshall is still attached to direct that one, maybe he should consider those two. Although I can also see them being ideal choices to star in a City of Angels film.
Posted: 12/9/25 at 12:39am
^ Then if that becomes the case, between Sky and Nathan which of the two would fit each of them? And please let Rob Marshall still be attached
Posted: 12/9/25 at 9:27am
I saw the film again, this time not missing any parts, and I think it is as well directed as the first one. Nessarose, sure, comes off as whiny sometimes, but her crying for Boq is sad, especially when the cyclone hits, and Chu really showed the horror and sadness of what happens to her. Chu also used flashbacks really well, like the field where the leads hung out back in college, what Elphaba sees of Fiyero during "No Good Deed" (not flashbacks but what would you call them?), and of course the...well you all know what flashbacks there are, don't wanna spoil it. Chu did an amazing job again.
Posted: 12/9/25 at 11:16am
MagicalMusical said: "I saw the film again, this time not missing any parts, and I think it is as well directed as the first one. Nessarose, sure, comes off as whiny sometimes, but her crying for Boq is sad, especially when the cyclone hits, and Chu really showed the horror and sadness of what happens to her. Chu also used flashbacks really well, like the field where the leads hung out back in college, what Elphaba sees of Fiyero during "No Good Deed" (not flashbacks but what would you call them?), and of course the...well you all know what flashbacks there are, don't wanna spoil it. Chu did an amazing job again."
Highly agreed. I took some family members to see it, and they enjoyed/loved it as much as Part One. Once Wicked: For Good is out on Blu-Ray, I'm going to buy it and watch both Wicked films as one movie. That should make for fun viewing.
I will say that Wicked: For Good not getting as much awards love as Part One got, isn't surprising to me considering that Dune Part Two (the superior film IMO) didn't get awards love either. Simply put, film awards traditionally don't care much for follow-ups/sequels/split two-parters, etc.
Posted: 12/9/25 at 3:59pm
For how critical this forum is I’m blown away how many people liked this.
Jon M Chu seemed out of his depth AND the Act Two plot flaws were glaring.
That first film I cared about moments in Wicked that have never moved me all that much.
This one? I was bored
It didn’t even try to find more.
It didn’t grow Elphaba and Glinda. It didn’t grow Elphaba and Fiyero.
What a dead weight disappointment. Wow.
Posted: 12/9/25 at 4:09pm
It added 77 minutes and Jon M Chu said “why don’t we just make the original hour long act feel much slower and lugubrious?”
Posted: 12/10/25 at 12:37am
Musical Master said: "Highly agreed. I took some family members to see it, and they enjoyed/loved it as much as Part One. Once Wicked: For Good is out on Blu-Ray, I'm going to buy it and watch both Wicked films as one movie. That should make for fun viewing.
I will say that Wicked: For Good not getting as much awards love as Part One got, isn't surprising to me considering that Dune Part Two (the superior film IMO) didn't get awards love either. Simply put, film awards traditionally don't care much for follow-ups/sequels/split two-parters,etc."
I am so glad you and your family felt that way. I can't wait to watch both movies together as well.
Posted: 12/15/25 at 1:54pm
Count me among the disappointed. I wanted to love it, and the first 10 minutes gave me hope, since it begns in medias res. Yet. This take will infuriate those who were enchanted, yet ... from strictly a craft standpoint, it must be noted that an efficient hour second act on Broadway has been expanded to 2 hours 17 minutes, and the resulting padding (a wedding, origin story flashbacks, 2 new but unmemorable songs, one with almost indecipherable lyrics) leaves the audience comparing the plotting unfavorably to its masterfully executed predecessor.
The biggest problem: the storytellers don't know what to do with its ostensible protagonist, Elphaba, once gravity has been defied. Though she certainly flies a lot, and with Marvel-like velocity - she ping-pongs back and forth to and from the Wizard and Emerald City too often ("Wonderful" just isn't, and to me still makes no plot sense, aside from removing suspense: why is she in the room with this man?) She is stalled, bearing guilt for the flying monkeys, coveting Glinda's fiance, and spiraling downward. She has nowhere to go but off the canvas, sacrificially, and that martyr's journey is a downer even though Grande makes Glinda's parallel ascension human-scaled.
Had the two halves been tethered in a single 3 hour film, we wouldn't notice - it would barrel forward - and an iconic duet to pulls the threads together does wonders. But waiting a year to watch Elphaba lose agency takes the wind out of the root-for in the narrative, and the busy, attenuated film can't compensate. Sorry, the umbrella story of the musical feels lopsided - the first film is an entertaining tale with a potent piece of messaging; its sequel drives the anti-fascist theme hard but too often forgets to move us. We sometimes care more for those poor animals than these humans, locked in a repetitive struggle. All that said, Grande - "Girl in the Bubble" aside - shines here.
Updated On: 12/15/25 at 01:54 PM
Posted: 12/15/25 at 2:29pm
Something I thought of- Elphaba releases the animals in the Wizard's chamber.
She does the exact same thing in Part One with the Lion Cub.
We don't see the range of her character grow enough.
Posted: 12/16/25 at 3:12pm
Wicked: For Good has a good showing on Oscar shortlists. This is a good sign?
https://deadline.com/2025/12/oscars-shortlists-2026-1236650066/
Posted: 12/16/25 at 3:16pm
ucjrdude902 said: "Wicked: For Good has a good showing on Oscar shortlists. This is a good sign?
https://deadline.com/2025/12/oscars-shortlists-2026-1236650066/"
Generally, yeah. Most Oscar pundits were saying the movie's chances for nominations in major categories like Picture, Actress, etc. were dead or at least softening due to the middling reviews. But hitting every available shortlist shows the movie still has broad appeal within the academy's voters, which means its chances are still very much alive.
Posted: 12/18/25 at 3:01pm
Ariana Grande scheduled for Seth Meyers tonight.
Posted: 12/18/25 at 4:11pm
ucjrdude902 said: "Wicked: For Good has a good showing on Oscar shortlists. This is a good sign?
https://deadline.com/2025/12/oscars-shortlists-2026-1236650066/"
Wicked For Good will get some Oscar noms for sure. (Wins idk). We do not have a Joker Folie à Deux on our hands when it comes to award seasons.
Wicked For Good got several GG noms and Joker Folie à Deux received zero
Posted: 12/18/25 at 5:01pm
What's up with Amazon? Back on November 27th I pre-ordered the WICKED: FOR GOOD Blu Ray. At that time it stated that a release date was not yet known and I would be notified when it became available. Then yesterday, December 17th I received 2 "Delivery estimate update for your Amazon.com order" ...
The first one was sent Wed, Dec 17 at 11:31 AM stated ...
"Delivery Estimate Details
New estimated delivery date:
Thursday, December 31, 2026"
The second one was sent Wed, Dec 17 at 10:02 PM and stated ...
" We have received new release date information related to the order. The item listed below will actually ship sooner than we originally expected based on the new release date.
New estimated delivery date:
Tuesday, January 20, 2026"
Now I received a 3rd update today, Thu, Dec 18 at 12:23 PM which stated ...
" We're sorry to inform you that the release date for the item below has changed. The new delivery date is indicated below. We know this delivery is important, and we apologize for the inconvenience.
New estimated delivery date:
Thursday, December 31, 2026"
What's going on with this? Has anybody else pre-ordered it and received these updates???
Posted: 12/20/25 at 3:49pm
Theatre Fan3 said: "What's up with Amazon? Back on November 27th I pre-ordered the WICKED: FOR GOOD Blu Ray. At that time it stated that a release date was not yet known and I would be notified when it became available. Then yesterday, December 17th I received 2 "Delivery estimate update for your Amazon.com order" ...
The first one was sent Wed, Dec 17 at 11:31 AM stated ...
"Delivery Estimate Details
New estimated delivery date:
Thursday, December 31, 2026"
The second one was sent Wed, Dec 17 at 10:02 PM and stated ...
" We have received new release date information related to the order. The item listed below will actually ship sooner than we originally expected based on the new release date.
New estimated delivery date:
Tuesday, January 20, 2026"
Now I received a 3rd update today, Thu, Dec 18 at 12:23 PM which stated ...
" We're sorry to inform you that the release date for the item below has changed. The new delivery date is indicated below. We know this delivery is important, and we apologize for the inconvenience.
New estimated delivery date:
Thursday, December 31, 2026"
What's going on with this? Has anybody else pre-ordered it and received these updates???"
I would assume that this is not an Amazon issue but a distributor issue. Looks like Amazon is just passing along the information they are receiving. JMO
Posted: 12/22/25 at 1:53pm
Finally saw For Good in the theater yesterday, About 3/4 full theater for the Sunday at 4 pm showing. I would say it lagged behind Wicked 1 a touch, but still a simply outstanding movie on all fronts. Madam Morrible underwhelms for me ... easily could have found a more intimidating villain character with real singing pipes. But really loved how that wove the storyline and the passion that Grande and Erivo put into the roles leaps off the screen. Really amazing stuff.
Posted: 12/22/25 at 3:15pm
I would like to have seen Bette Midler's take on the Madame Morrible role. I think she would have been perfect in the part and she could SING!! ... even though the role doesn't have much singing I still think she would have nailed it!!
Posted: 12/22/25 at 3:32pm
I do not understand the mass kvetching about Morrible's singing in this movie. She sings for all of fifteen seconds and sounds fine, they autotuned her and she's easily on par with Emma Watson in Beauty and the Beast and Uma Thurman in The Producers. And those characters had full solo songs we all had to sit through.
Clearly Chu wanted Yeoh for her acting of the role, which can be debated on its own merits.
Posted: 12/22/25 at 5:23pm
TellZ said: "I do not understand the mass kvetching about Morrible's singing in this movie. She sings for all of fifteen seconds and sounds fine, they autotuned her and she's easily on par with Emma Watson in Beauty and the Beast and Uma Thurman in The Producers. And those characters had full solo songs we all had to sit through.
Clearly Chu wanted Yeoh for her acting of the role, which can be debated on its own merits."
I was fine with her vocals, too, but it isn't exactly out of place to criticize a non-singer being given a singing role in a musical. The essential argument "Well, Chu obviously wanted her" doesn't really address the issue. I find her voice more frustrating on the soundrack recording than while watching the movie, for obvious reasons. Sometimes I wish producers would embrace dubbing again. Felt the same way about James Corden in Into the Woods.
Posted: 12/22/25 at 5:57pm
joevitus said: "I was fine with her vocals, too, but it isn't exactly out of place to criticize a non-singer being given a singing role in a musical. The essential argument "Well, Chu obviously wanted her" doesn't really address the issue.I find her voicemore frustrating on the soundrack recording than while watching the movie, for obvious reasons. Sometimes I wish producers would embrace dubbing again. Felt the same way about James Corden in Into the Woods."
Except that Morrible has been cast with many actresses who cannot sing. Rue McLanahan, Joanne Worley, Jayne Houdyshell, Miriam Margoyles, Carol Kane, etc.
Casting a strong singer for a character who literally doesn't have her own song (or even a duet) seems like a waste. Is it nice when they can hold a tune? Sure, but not necessary. I'd rather someone who can give menacing line reads over someone who can sing a few bars. It's just not what the character is there for.
The problem with the movie is that they auto tuned Michelle instead of just letting her speak it in rhyme as non-singing Morribles do.
Updated On: 12/22/25 at 05:57 PM
Posted: 12/23/25 at 12:39am
TheatreFan4 said: "joevitus said: "I was fine with her vocals, too, but it isn't exactly out of place to criticize a non-singer being given a singing role in a musical. The essential argument "Well, Chu obviously wanted her" doesn't really address the issue.I find her voicemore frustrating on the soundrack recording than while watching the movie, for obvious reasons. Sometimes I wish producers would embrace dubbing again. Felt the same way about James Corden in Into the Woods."
Except that Morrible has been cast with many actresses who cannot sing. Rue McLanahan, Joanne Worley, Jayne Houdyshell, Miriam Margoyles, Carol Kane, etc.
Casting a strong singer for a character who literally doesn't have her own song (or even a duet) seems like a waste. Is it nice when they can hold a tune? Sure, but not necessary. I'd rather someone who can give menacing line reads over someone who can sing a few bars. It's just not what the character is there for.
The problem with the movie is that they auto tuned Michelle instead of just letting her speak it in rhyme as non-singing Morribles do."
Again, how many of those Morribles ended up on a cast recording? That's sort of my point. I agree that in the context of watching a performace of the show or a screening of the films, other issues are more important. But when you just want to listen to the songs, that lack of voice hurts the experience. She isn't even very expressive dramatically in the songs, which might have made up for a lot.
Posted: 12/23/25 at 1:23am
I liked Michelle in the role. She was such an icy bitch. I liked her reserved and kind of secret menace. I didn't care that she wasn't a strong singer. I haven't bought a soundtrack for the films yet, but I don't think I'd be bothered that I have to hear a few minutes of poor singing in between absolutely glorious singing by everybody else.
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