Why Does Michael Riedel hate "Hamilton"?- Page 5

[HogansHero]

Posted: 7/23/15 at 9:04pm

Indy, I appreciate all that. My point is that if you extrapolate what you are saying, nothing in our culture can be good enough to warrant unrelenting praise. Everything is suspect, to be viewed cynically through a "popular culture cycle." I realize and do not embrace that there is a lot of hype in our culture but does that mean everything of value is now meaningless? I think not.

[Sally Durant Plummer]

Posted: 7/23/15 at 10:31pm

Oh Lord, After Hate has returned. And just when we thought we were rid of it.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 7/23/15 at 10:46pm

Remission, recurrence, metastasis

[JayG 2]

Posted: 7/25/15 at 6:57am

EXTRA! EXTRA!  HAMILTON USHERS HAND OUT PLAYBILLS! READ ALL ABOUT IT! 

[macnyc]

Posted: 7/25/15 at 10:45am

I wonder why Riedel would trash Hamilton, considering that getting Lin-Manuel and company on his show would be quite a coup and make for interesting TV besides. Or maybe the production turned Riedel down already and he's mad?

[Showface]

Posted: 7/25/15 at 12:12pm

I haven't even seen Hamilton (I want to), but I'm glad that it's speaking to people!

But, reading this thread has been fun, because the amount of bitter people who haven't even seen the show is really...hilarious (well..sad too, but mainly hilarious!)


My only advice to those people is to not log on any Broadway sites for about a year, maybe...but even then, publicity will still be very strong.
So, I guess...just don't not log onto Broadway sites...anymore?


Seriously, it won't hurt you if you briefly see the headline an article about Hamilton...unless you've been clicking on then, which would make even less sense...

Updated On: 7/25/15 at 12:12 PM

[JayG 2]

Posted: 7/25/15 at 12:19pm

BW NEWS FLASH: "HAMILTON Continues Second Week of Performances"

[Hamilton22]

Posted: 7/25/15 at 12:20pm

JayG, have you seen Hamilton? 

[Showface]

Posted: 7/25/15 at 12:23pm

"BW NEWS FLASH: "HAMILTON Continues Second Week of Performances"

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Did it really bother you to read that headline?

[NYC4Life]

Posted: 7/25/15 at 3:20pm

I love when people see theatre that might never have wanted to. It's great. When there is any type of hype that revolves around a production, especially a new and original one, I'm happy. Long live the tbeatre! We can discuss why we like or dislike art but let's not be upset that people are excited and buzzing about the Theatre or any kind of art form. Hamilton might not be some peoples cup of tea but it sure might spark an interest in the art form 

[NYC4Life]

Posted: 7/25/15 at 4:33pm

I love when people see theatre that might never have wanted to. It's great. When there is any type of hype that revolves around a production, especially a new and original one, I'm happy. Long live the tbeatre! We can discuss why we like or dislike art but let's not be upset that people are excited and buzzing about the Theatre or any kind of art form. Hamilton might not be some peoples cup of tea but it sure might spark an interest in the art form 

[JayG 2]

Posted: 7/26/15 at 5:26pm

Hamilton22, no I haven't seen Hamilton. I will be seeing it in September, but my posts have NOTHING to do with the quality of the show. They are aimed at the idiocy of its fans and publicist who swoon every time Linn Manuel tweets a message or instagrams a pic and somehow believe it's newsworthy.

The Hamilton fanatics (including the editors of this site) really need to calm down. It's only a musical. It won't bring world peace.

By the way did you hear the latest, exiting news? At Saturday's matinee dozens of people were lined up to use the restrooms during the intermission of Hamilton.  OMG!!  OMG!!!

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 7/26/15 at 5:55pm

You are making up the bathroom stuff right? I have never seen this type of behavior - wink wink nudge nudge

[Hamilton22]

Posted: 7/26/15 at 6:53pm

Hamilton22, no I haven't seen Hamilton. I will be seeing it in September, but my posts have NOTHING to do with the quality of the show. They are aimed at the idiocy of its fans and publicist who swoon every time Linn Manuel tweets a message or instagrams a pic and somehow believe it's newsworthy

You must not be aware of what the job of a publicist is....

In any case, I have not seen seen one idiotic news story about Hamilton on this site. I think the videos of the lottery performances are great and I don't see why Broadway world should not report on those? What updates and news stories about the show have you seen that classify as idiotic to you?

As I look on the homepage of Broadway world now, I don't see any tweets that Lin wrote that Broadway world has turned into a news story

It sounds like you have more of a problem with the  social network world that we live in now a days. Shows (and films) get over publicized these days because that's just the world we live in now with facebook, Instagram, twitter. Hamilton is certainly not the only culprit.

I think the influxion of news stories last week had to do with the President being there. Which admittedly is very interesting and worthy of news headlines.

 I think it's fine and dandy for you to be sick of all the over publicizing of shows ( I am also to a certain degree) but don't you think you are going a bit overboard with your sarcastic Hamilton comments? It's making your point (which you do have) very moot.  

[Milo3]

Posted: 7/26/15 at 7:24pm

Interestingly enough (although not surprising), Michael Riedel calls Hamilton a "great show" and has nothing but good things to say about it in the new Theater Talk. Good episode though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIAoRpXeUuM

[gypsy101]

Posted: 7/27/15 at 12:51am

"They are aimed at the idiocy of its fans and publicist who swoon every time Linn Manuel tweets a message or instagrams a pic and somehow believe it's newsworthy."

His name is Lin-Manuel Miranda, not Linn Manuel. Manuel is not his last name.

Updated On: 10/19/15 at 12:51 AM

[JayG 2]

Posted: 7/27/15 at 8:29am

EXTRA!EXTRA! BREAKING NEWS! "POSTER ON BW WEBSITE MISSPELLS HAMILTON'S WRITER'S NAME!" OMG!!  OMG!! OMG!!!

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 7/27/15 at 9:16am

^ Gawd you're an idiot. GROW UP!

[newintown]

Posted: 7/27/15 at 9:31am

I don't know - I find it kind of amusing.

But then I find non-ironic hype/hyperbole to be about the lowest form of communication, even lower than mime.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 7/27/15 at 9:35am

They are aimed at the idiocy of its fans and publicist who swoon every time Linn Manuel tweets a message or instagrams a pic and somehow believe it's newsworthy.

The Hamilton fanatics (including the editors of this site) really need to calm down. It's only a musical. It won't bring world peace.

It sounds like the problem is whatever sites you choose to visit and spend your time.  I've seen a couple of superfluous headlines here, but nothing out of the ordinary for any juggernaut hit musical.  And the fans have been VERY calm and tame.  Far more quiet than it was for Wicked, Brooklyn and Spring Awakening.  Sorry if what you choose to read annoys you, but your posts have been far more immature than anything else regarding Hamilton on the internet.

[jnb9872]

Posted: 7/27/15 at 9:52am

I think JayG has an excellent point, but only his point regarding the editorial choices on BWW (where choice 'news' headlines include BWW Personality Quiz: What Kind of a Broadway Ticket Buyer Are You? and So Fetch! BWW Readers Want Musical Versions of MEAN GIRLS, THE BREAKFAST CLUB and More High School Classics.)

The HAMILTON and Lin-Manuel fan community (which I would always groups as a second phenomenon from cultural and critical luminaries championing a show as 'fan communities' often cross the line for me into obsessiveness and hyperbolic desperation regarding their show of choice - as in IF/THEN or HEATHERS or, to a lesser extent, NEWSIES) have been fairly reasonable and respectful with their passion. Frankly, I think that comes from Miranda himself, since he has engaged with them in a constantly respectful tone. He doesn't look down on his audience; he identifies with and seeks to inspire them. His frequent tweets about shows that inspired him, LES MIS and A CHORUS LINE and the like, show off a level of obsessive fandom that his die-hards would obviously sympathize. However, he's made good: he used his obsessions and honed his skills with them to give back to the generations after him what he was given. That's about as excellent a use of the mysterious-to-me fanaticism that some people just have with these things. He also engages with them where they live, or at least much closer than other creative-types: his post on tumblr, asking tumblr users respectfully to avoid posting or seeking bootlegs, was as far as I know unprecedented and (unlike JRB, who comes off as having to **** down everyone's throats from his superior intellectual and artistic position) respecting of everyone's impulses while also enlightening to his own and those of the victims of bootlegging in his company. I think there is a lot to admire about Miranda, and always look forward to following him on twitter or seeing/hearing him interviewed. 

Just not when it's excerpted into five different BWW EXCLUSIVE headlines for traffic clicks.

[Jeffrey Karasarides]

Posted: 7/31/15 at 9:59am

Could there possibly be some backlash?

Updated On: 7/31/15 at 09:59 AM

[neonlightsxo]

Posted: 7/31/15 at 10:00am

"Could their possibly be some backlash?"

No but there could be backlash.

[ZannaDo]

Posted: 7/31/15 at 11:09am

"How could I vote for a show I couldn't see?"

Yeah, you're right, because all 700 Tony voters definitely see every nominated production and abstain from the categories in which they haven't seen all the nominees...

[Kad]

Posted: 7/31/15 at 11:21am

I have remarkably little sympathy for the poor Tony voters, who see an eligible Broadway season for free in primo seats- and get to take a guest along for it. But I guess some would rather be playing tennis than honoring their obligation.

Updated On: 7/31/15 at 11:21 AM