I think the Spamalot lyrics are supposed to be bad. It's partly what makes the show so funny. Here's one from Millie: "I won't stand by while critics praise ya You're getting shipped to Southeast Asia."
And anotehr Millie one (and I love the show): "Life is a holiday, I'm talking June through May. A lively setup show, And baby, I'm front row."
Im sorry, I really love rent but i have to put this one down
"For someone who's always been let down, who's heading out of town?" "For someone who longs for a community of his own, who's with his camera, alone?"
plus its not even sung..just kinda shouted it bothers me a lot
"No two shows are alike in the making. Each show is a living
piece of your life in a small unreal world with its own character
and integrity; its own new set of memorable experiences and
incredible happenings. You begin to love and adapt to its strangeness.
Dreams harden into substance. Values come into focus. You wish
it would never end. The dream world vanishes like mist before a
rising sun; part of you vanishes with it. And back you land in the
real world with a thud- fogged, uneasy, jittery, difficult to get
along with. There is only one cure. A new show. A new, small
unreal world; new visions, experiences, incredible happenings.
Again you love it, adapt to it, wish it would never end.
But end it does. Another part of you vanishes.
That's show business."-Anonymous
I think that Daddalee and Mammalee lyric in Spelling Bee is the cheapest I've ever heard. The part about depression running in her family is potentially very funny, but Finn wasn't willing to work to find a way to do it without the obviously invented pet names.
Everyone's talking about the bad rhymes in wicked, but there are far worse Rhymes. For example Phantom of the opera. In think of me..... "Think of all the things we've shared and seen don't think about the things which might have been".
Ok Seen and Been only rhyme if you're doing an english accent, but no where else. So they decided to change it for the Broadway show to "think of august when the trees are green. Don't think about the things which might have been."
Ok not only is that worse (it doesn't rhyme in America or England), but it's a stupid concept. Green trees in august have nothing to do with fanciful memories. Incidentally trees are green in march, april, may, june, july and even part of September. FOOLISH
Okay, I do like The Last Five Years, however - this kind of doesn't make sense. Yes, I understand what it does for the song .. but I'm kind of like, what??
"One day it's just a typical life And then he's off on A trip to Jamie-land"
Like, the rest of the song rhymes .. except the whole Jamie-land thing. I don't exactly get it.
"You can't quietly wipe out an entire tent city Then watch 'It's a Wonderful Life' on TV!"
"No two shows are alike in the making. Each show is a living
piece of your life in a small unreal world with its own character
and integrity; its own new set of memorable experiences and
incredible happenings. You begin to love and adapt to its strangeness.
Dreams harden into substance. Values come into focus. You wish
it would never end. The dream world vanishes like mist before a
rising sun; part of you vanishes with it. And back you land in the
real world with a thud- fogged, uneasy, jittery, difficult to get
along with. There is only one cure. A new show. A new, small
unreal world; new visions, experiences, incredible happenings.
Again you love it, adapt to it, wish it would never end.
But end it does. Another part of you vanishes.
That's show business."-Anonymous
"We're such a tight weave, I don't want to leave, We make a match set, a perfect duet, like egss and a ham, like twins to siame"
When I'm By Your Side from Side Show ( i think it is supose to be a corny song on purpose becasue it is a cheesy song written by the one charecter for them)
<"wickedness must be punished but good..." but good what??? i don't get it... maybe i'm stupid but can someone explain that to me???>
I would have sworn that it was FOR good, not BUT good.
yeah... that's what i thought... but i just checked the lyrics again and it's BUT... for the life of me that will boggle my mind until someone explains it to me
i'll give you folks the WICKED rhymes, most are just plain silly. But DRS - NO WAY! The majority, well nearly all of them are pure brilliant and ingenious! FAR from THE WORST!
Could you guys clear something up for me? What kind of rhymes DO you like? So far, it seems that, if it does rhyme, it sucks, and if it doesn't rhyme exactly, then it should (but then you'd just hate it anyway). What if it wasn't even supposed to rhyme to begin with? (In particular, Winsome, wins him... That's called a parallel, not a rhyme.)
I have a feeling you guys would like it better if musicals didn't rhyme at all.
You have to take into account that rhyme is a necessary part of music, and rather than change entire storylines in order to get a rhyme that you guys would approve of, writers use a simplistic rhyme that pushes the story forward.
Also, a lot of times that repetetive rhymes are used (Nessa in Wicked, Mimi in Rent) it breaks up the monotony of the music, giving it variety as well as heart and honesty.
Have you all noticed that Wicked is one of the most popular and well-known broadway shows right now? I suppose it got that way because it is so unimaginative and repetative, right?
How can you pick one rhyme to be better off than another? Rhyming is always the same; no matter which two words you put together in a rhyme, it always has the same effect on the ear.
Don't be offended by my frank analysis, Think of it as personality dialysis!
I LOVE that one! There ARE a few lyrical spots in Wicked that aren't so hot, but overall I think the lyrics are good and more than make up for the few lacking lines.
And they do speak a bit differently in Oz too, which does explain some of the lines.
I think whatever two-line weak rhyming Stephen Sondheim may have fallen prey to can be forgiven considering the man is the most profound and well versed lyricist in the American Musical Theatre.
BSoBW2: I punched Sondheim in the face after I saw Wicked and said, "Why couldn't you write like that!?"
Not so much a nerve was hit as I didn't understand any reasoning behind some of those hated rhymes. I know that you all aren't negative (sorry Sumofallthings) its just the ones who are uber nitpicky about every single detail that annoy me. I really am a congenial guy. Promise. :)
Some of these lyrics are passed off as rhymes but don't actually rhyme, i.e. the Oz/Was "rhyme."
Putting two words together that actually do rhyme would probably be better than, you know, words that don't. But that's purely speculative. ::dripping with sarcasm::
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In any case, all "rhymes" do not have the same effect, in my opinion...a rhyme that is predictable and trite v. a rhyme that is a suprise...those have very different effects.
I understand your opinion aerofad, but I think there is such a thing as a "bad rhyme."
-Anyone want to turn anarchist with me?"Bless you and all who know you, oh wise and penguined one." ~YouWantItWhen????
I think something we'd have to discuss is what exactly makes a bad rhyme? My opinion is a bad rhyme is either a very cliche line (Rent- "I've been tryin', I'm not lyin'") or one in which someone puts a line or word into the song just for the sake of rhyming, which EVERY lyricist is guilty of at one point or another, Stephen Schwartz the worst offender. Can you imagine anyone ever saying "personality dialysis" unless it was a set-up for a painful rhyme? It is to the dazzling Ms. Chenoweth's credit that she recognized this as a horrible line and played it for that laugh. Sondheim has, unfortunately, done this as well- the example that springs to mind is "personable/coercin' a bull." However, my vote for all-time worst rhyme (which I can't believe no one has mentioned) is from Spelling Bee... I can't remember the exact lyric, but the rhyme is "Neitzche's/Christine Ricci's" which make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE whatsoever, even in the context that she's supposed to be making a joke. Cause no one, not even a young homeschooler with no social skills, would ever come up with that.