Yes . One way to solve problem is honestly say who comes out and who does not. Add to that if someone does not sign and approximately when they come out. All they need to do is set up ground rules . After a show, unless we have to go to the restrooms, we are out and gone. We never did wait and see no reason to start now.
I love when the person working the door tells you that no once else is coming out for the night (much appreciated) and people still refuse to believe it. On multiple occasions I've heard "they're just saying that so people will leave." No, believe it or not there's more than one exit and the person is long gone.
And even if the actors really were going to come out the stage door after that, they aren't going to sign autographs. It's like when people on these boards suggest to others that they can catch an actor going out a different door. Clearly they don't want to be bothered.
It would not surprise me.
NJ_BroadwayGirl said: "I love when the person working the door tells you that no once else is coming out for the night (much appreciated) and people still refuse to believe it. On multiple occasions I've heard "they're just saying that so people will leave." No, believe it or not there's more than one exit and the person is long gone.
While I'm sure that is usually the case, it's not always, though I think it's more of a miscommunication that anything. The most recent time I saw was the first preview of American Psycho and the very nice security guard told everyone nobody was coming out. My boyfriend and I just stood next to the theatre to smoke a cigarette and talk and Jen came out just a few minutes later and was perfectly sweet to everyone who was mingling around.
I've had nothing but pleasant experiences stage dooring but I've only done it for actors I really like. Bryan Cranston could not have been nicer and had the best setup, security made everyone get in a single file line and he would meet and greet everyone asking how you were doing, how was the show, signed anything related to the show and took a picture. You could tell he was genuine and absolutely loved the experience of meeting his fans.
There are always going to be morons who try to ruin it for everybody but that's life.
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he would meet and greet everyone asking how you were doing, how was the show, signed anything related to the show and took a picture. You could tell he was genuine and absolutely loved the experience of meeting his fans."
Ummm, it's called ACTING!
Am I the only one who has no desire to talk to celebrities (unless I am working with them and sometimes not even then!)? What am I going to say to Kelli O'Hara that she has not heard 10,000 times before?
On the other hand, I have occasionally spoken to featured players or character actors when I later saw them on the street. I thought they might appreciate that I found them so memorable that I recognized them out of the play. (And, invariably, they have indeed seemed to appreciate the attention, which I make sure to keep short.)
I don't really get the hunger for autographs either. Are they magical to some people?
GavestonPS said: "Am I the only one who has no desire to talk to celebrities (unless I am working with them and sometimes not even then!)? What am I going to say to Kelli O'Hara that she has not heard 10,000 times before?"
Am I the only one who wonders why people pose rhetorcial questions?
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GavestonPS said: "Am I the only one who has no desire to talk to celebrities (unless I am working with them and sometimes not even then!)? What am I going to say to Kelli O'Hara that she has not heard 10,000 times before?"
Speaking from personal expirience, meeting a celebrity that you love can be an amazing expirience. I met the cast of Fun Home and Hamilton, and everytime I think about it I can't stop smiling. I'm glad I had the opportunity to tell the people who inspire and encourage me to do the things I love that they've done much for me, even if they don't know it.
It depends on the cast/my love of the show of if I really decide to go to the stage door or not but like previous posters have said, it can be a magical experience.
Michelle Williams is my favorite actress, so when I saw Blackbird in previews, I went to the stage door. My cousin has worked with her on a few movies and she went on and on about how much she loved her and their children have played together. She then had a five minute conversation (give or take a minute) about her films and she really appreciated the compliments, especially for her smaller known films. Then she even asked if I wanted a picture with her. Its those kind of moments that make people love stage dooring, it's just some people ruin it.
I have no desire to talk to celebrities either. I'm not starstruck. Unless I have a meaningful conversation with an actor, there's no need. I've met tons of them while managing a theater, and I treated them like any other patron (which was my job, btw).
However!!! There are a few celebs that excited me to meet in person. They were David Bowie and Jack Nicholson.
LizzieCurry said: "...Am I the only one who wonders why people pose rhetorcial questions?
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That's hard to say since you don't seem to understand the meaning of the term. My question was not rhetorical; we have umpteen threads about stage dooring and few if any posts admitting the limitations of a brief encounter at a stage door. I was seriously asking whether I was the only one who finds such moments meaningless.
rikem said: " he would meet and greet everyone asking how you were doing, how was the show, signed anything related to the show and took a picture. You could tell he was genuine and absolutely loved the experience of meeting his fans."
Ummm, it's called ACTING!
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He could have easily got in his car and left. Not everyone is a phony.
Corey38 said: "Speaking from personal expirience, meeting a celebrity that you love can be an amazing expirience. I met the cast of Fun Home and Hamilton, and everytime I think about it I can't stop smiling. I'm glad I had the opportunity to tell the people who inspire and encourage me to do the things I love that they've done much for me, even if they don't know it.
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I do think context matters. I was invited to Angela Lansbury's Christmas Party of 1976. (We were working together at the time.) She and her husband knew me by name and I had a lovely evening with them. A few days later I had dinner with Arthur Laurents and a small group of men. That should have been a bigger deal than it was to me at the time but I was young and stupid. My point is that there are contexts that allow for greater interaction than a stage door.
On the other hand, I have spoken often of how mind--blowing I found the original production of FOLLIES. Ten years later I happened to have dinner with John McMartin and told him all about how much his show had meant to me. To this day I cringe when I recall that evening. (Mr. McMartin could not have been nicer, BTW; I just think back and realize that what was a turning point in my aesthetic worldview was just another Saturday matinee to him.)
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P.S. to n2nbaby: I'm glad you had such a good experience meeting Michelle Williams. I can certainly understand that we all have a few favorites and meeting them would be very satisfying. (See Jane2 with David Bowie and Jack Nicholson.)
GavestonPS said: "I was seriously asking whether I was the only one who finds such moments meaningless."
Really? "Am I the only one" questions (whether they're about stage doors or broccoli or doing weird things with feathers in bed) are almost always answered with a "no."
LizzieCurry said: "GavestonPS said: "I was seriously asking whether I was the only one who finds such moments meaningless."
Really? "Am I the only one" questions (whether they're about stage doors or broccoli or doing weird things with feathers in bed) are almost always answered with a "no."
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Only by the rigidly literal-minded. Obviously, I'm not the only one on the planet. But I'm the first in my experience to say so here. Since then, I've read three or four thoughtful responses agreeing and disagreeing. I think that's enough to prove my question was not merely rhetorical.
GavestonPS said: "There are contexts that allow for greater interaction than a stage door."
Yeah, obviously. I'm sure every fan at the stage door would much rather be invited to dinner at the celebrity's house, but that isn't exactly an option for all of us. You have a lot of nerve name-dropping your celebrity friends, then telling all of us that our interactions with celebrities aren't good enough. That's like going to the rush-line outside a theatre and telling everyone that it would be easier to buy full-price tickets in advance.
Now class, let's all go around the circle and say whether or not we like to go to the stage door.
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PThespian said: "JBroadway said: "Now class, let's all go around the circle and say whether or not we like to go to the stage door.
And class let's vote for who the most obnoxious poster is. "
Well, they're not in this thread. Can we vote for people we lost in the Battle of Murin? (I don't know who coined that, but I would like to. And thank you.)
JBroadway said: "GavestonPS said: "There are contexts that allow for greater interaction than a stage door."
Yeah, obviously. I'm sure every fan at the stage door would much rather be invited to dinner at the celebrity's house, but that isn't exactly an option for all of us. You have a lot of nerve name-dropping your celebrity friends, then telling all of us that our interactions with celebrities aren't good enough. That's like going to the rush-line outside a theatre and telling everyone that it would be easier to buy full-price tickets in advance.
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First, I'm sorry I offended you. Secondly, I tried very hard to make it clear that the celebrities I mentioned were co-workers or incidental dinner companions. None are or were personal friends. My point was just that--for me--there are contexts where a celebrity encounter is meaningful, but a stage door isn't one of them.
In no post did I imply a negative judgment of those who like to stage-door. I just said I don't get it.
I do not speak for the world just from my own observation but after having [in my long gone beautiful youthful days] , met with, ate with, and slept with many a well know personality and what is said just before they step out that Stage Door is all about another, yet different, performance.
Like standing in the wings chatting then-cue-performance.
Then when in their car or whatever---'Thank God that's over'.
The problem is that the SD is usually very publically accessible [is that correct?] --All new theatres should either build a tunnel exit and leave the ego driven artists to exit wherever.
It always amuses me on TV shows when the criminal and lawyer leaves the court house through the masses of reporters and says 'no comment'---isn't there a back way out of court to avoid all that?
I did get Dustin Hoffman autograph when he was filming Tootsie outside Macys' [?] I said I was from Australia and he asked me if I knew so and so from Perth as he owed him some money--yes we are a very small island and we know everyone. I had tried to hide on the street as an extra in the crowd but someone spotted that I was an extra extra-must have been that Crocodile Dundee hat and big knife.
SweetLips will you STOP !!!!
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Going back to what Mr. Roxy said, I totally agree that it would better manage the experience if theatre staff immediately told people at the stagedoor who doesn't stagedoor or wouldn't be that night. As someone who stagedoors at almost every show I see (getting to talk to actors and thank them is very important to me), I've waited for up to two hours in 5 degree weather for people who don't come out. I don't hold that against the actors, obviously they have no obligation to stagedoor, but I've definitely felt frustrated and wouldn't have waited had I known that those people wouldn't be coming out. I seriously respect stage actors (hope to be one myself someday), and would never mean to disrespect them, and I still feel disappointed after a long wait that doesn't lead to meeting certain actors. Knowing that there's no point in waiting would hopefully get a lot of people to just leave, and minimize the kind of anger and frustration that lead to messages like the kind Cynthia Erivo got.
I don't think saying who comes out every night in advance is particularly feasible, because every night is different.
Two examples:
- At DISASTER, after it was said that Faith Prince had "already left", two other girls and I hung around the door and talked to the SD guy (casually, not asking any questions about why she didn't come out, etc) as he broke down the barricades, and he mentioned Faith was still there, but she was sick and had guests, and wasn't up to coming out that night, though she usually does.
- Also, at closing night of NOISES OFF, someone asked if Andrea Martin came out, and the SD guy said no, only to have Andrea come out not two minutes later (although she stated that "she doesn't really do this, but today was a special occasion".
Announcing who comes out every night? Ridiculous. Actors decide from night to night what they feel like doing.
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