shows that have ACTUALLY changed the face of broadway — Page 2

"The Phantom of the Opera/Cats/Les Miserables (ushered in the synth-rock opera era, also noteworthy for concentrating on the show itself and not about who was in the cast, started the advertising movement where the logo was most important)"

Actually Hal Prince had LONG before worked from the philosophy that THE SHOW was the star... not the actor/s involved.

WEST SIDE STORY wasn't about Larry Kert or Carol Lawrence

CABARET wasn't about Jill Hayworth

and FIDDLER ON THE ROOF survived well after Mostel left.

Also, the importance of logo was only a facet of the marketing revolution. How those shows changed MERCHANDISING was also astonishing.. they slapped those logos on everything from mugs to suppositories!

They had people lining up to PAY to advertise the show.

Those Cameron Macintosh shows aimed at a GLOBAL audience... and got 'em! That is why I too believe they actually the changed the face of Broadway.

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Updated On: 11/24/08 at 12:44 AM

How will 13 CHANGE or impact anything? Whether some of its actors will go on to other things is yet to be seen....and still that doesn't mean they will affect anything. I'm sure some of them will get other jobs at some point in their careers...but I wouldn't be suprised if some of them decide the heartbreak of theater is not worth it.

I doubt you can say it made ANY sort of real impact since so few people actaully saw it.

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13 did change broadway by being the first cast of all teens, YOUNG teens, 13 age range... even the band
obviously that has made history, whether you like the show or not

oh but you wait.. in due time you will see its effects... more shows geared towards tweens, younger casts... just in due time

and by making history, i do think that changes broadway

Taryn, I agree with you 100%

I don't think Wicked has changed the face of Broadway. Its been hugely successful, obviously, but through no real innovation. It did however build on the Disney style of producing, the musical as a product, almost like a theme park.
Perhaps stylistically, Mamma Mia? Was it the first musical to use pop songs and intertwine them with a story unrelated to the original artist?
Also, which was the first musical to be based on a film, as opposed to the other way around?

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""The Phantom of the Opera/Cats/Les Miserables (ushered in the synth-rock opera era, also noteworthy for concentrating on the show itself and not about who was in the cast, started the advertising movement where the logo was most important)" "

Would you agree that the show that possibly pioneered that era was Jesus Christ Superstar? "

I'm not sure I would... It was a pretty different situation--JCS never had a worldwide *standard* iconic production like those shows did, no major logo, was successful but was more a phenomenon as a record/series of concerts than the actual show, etc... However Evita, was a more obvious precurser to the Cameron McKintosh technique of megamusicals na dhow to market them for sure.

Re Golden Boy:

"Perhaps the inter-racial love story.... especially taboo between a Black man with Nordic blonde woman.

For some reason a white man with a black, mixed-race or Asian woman wasn't as off putting back then."

That's true--but really did it make enough of an impact to change much at all?

When I was younger i never understood that about interacial relationships--even when tv shows like soap operas started making interacial romances more common, it was seen as much safer to have the man be white and the woman the darker skinned--and this was the 80s into the 90s. But then again I don't really get a lot about racism :P

um, just wondering, How did BKLYN suck? it's such a good show

Promise,Promise:Its contemporary pop score had a huge influence on braodway musical's sound for a while,though not very long.Without this show,there wouldn't be Company,Seesaw,Applause and many other shows.

To answer Hest882:

13????

I think because of 13 there will never be a show with a cast (and band) solely of pre-pubescent children!

Updated On: 11/24/08 at 11:39 AM

blaxx wins the thread
the end

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Im shocked nobody has said Angels in America, Ragtime and Caroline or Change. I think all 3 changed the face of broadway.

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RENT
A Chorus Line
Les Miserables
Company
Any Fosse show