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what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?

what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?

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wicked4life51
#1what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/17/07 at 9:54pm

because i know they cut some songs but what?


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CATSNYrevival
#2re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/17/07 at 10:11pm

The "We Can Do It" reprise.

"Der Guten Tag Hop Clop".

"Along Came Bially".

"That Face".

"You Never Say 'Good Luck' on Opening Night".

"Betrayed".

Max's section of "'Til Him".

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#2re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/17/07 at 10:18pm

that's cutting out a good chunk of the show!

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TechEverlasting
#3re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/17/07 at 10:24pm

It sounds like they eviscerated it.

I can see getting rid of "Betrayed", but "You Never Say Good Luck on Opening Night"? "Guten Tag Hop Clop?" "That Face"?

What's left other than "Keep It Gay" and "Springtime For Hitler"?

One of the Las Vegas Phantom's key marketing points was that the production had "all of the songs from the original Broadway version". Phantom was also cut down to an intermissionless hour and a half, but they accomplished this by shortening the songs, skipping the reprises and cutting lots of dialogue. Couldn't the Vegas Producers at least have left in one or two verses of "Bad Luck" and "Guten Tag"?


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Yankeefan007
#4re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/17/07 at 10:40pm

Cut songs:
Act One, Scene 4: "We Can Do It" Reprise (Max & Leo)
Act One, Scene 6: "Der Guten Tag Hop Clop" (Franz, Max, Leo)
Act One, Scene 9: Act One Finale (All)
Act Two, Scene 1: "That Face" (Leo, Ulla, Max)
Act Two, Scene 3: "You Never Say 'Good Luck' on Opening Night" (Roger, Max, Carmen, Leo, Franz)
Act Two, Scene 5: "Where Did We Go Right?" (Max, Leo)
Act Two, Scene 6: "Betrayed" (Max)
Act Two, Scene 7: Max's section of "'Til Him" (Max)

They did eviscerate it - they cut down the show to make it 90 minutes. All of the cuts are PERFECT for a shorter version of the show and do not effect the plot in any detremental way.

The "We Can Do It" reprise is unnecessary, as is an "Act One Finale" in a One Act show. Max's section of "'Til Him" doesn't further the plot in the same way that "Betrayed," "Hop Clop," and "Never Say Good Luck" don't. They're all character songs. You can get out the Zigfield Oas in dialogue, you can set up that you never say 'good luck' in dialogue, and you can learn that Bialystock is in prison through dialogue. Same thing with "Where Did We Go Right?"

I'd say the most detremental cut is "That Face," since it sets up character development.

The kept songs - King of Broadway, I Wanna Be A Producer, Keep It Gay, Flaunt It - all of them are key for character development.

The Vegas production is built around David Hasselhoff as DeBris. He's the big ticket item, he's the one whose photo graces every marquee. In that respect, it's smart to cut Betrayed (the usual 11 o'clock number) and make it Springtime for Hitler. Not only is it the most known song from the show, but it's now the "big number," showcasing their lead, the guy who used to talk to the car.

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#5re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/17/07 at 10:45pm

how could they cut out betrayed. oh there is that intermission reference, but syill that sucks.

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#6re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/17/07 at 10:53pm

Yankeefan007, have you seen the show in Vegas? I don't agree with your seeming assertion that character songs aren't an important part of what makes a musical work. I've read that "Bad Luck" has been replaced with one of the characters just saying "It's bad luck to say good luck", and then they just move on.

As I pointed out earlier, Phantom was able to create a casino friendly version that still let its audience hear the essence of the original score. I think Hairspray only cut "The Big Dollhouse" from its Vegas version.


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#7re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/17/07 at 10:59pm

if Hasselhoff is supposed to be the star of the show then they might as well cut all the songs that he's not in.

JustChillin8908
#8re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/17/07 at 11:37pm

"I think Hairspray only cut "The Big Dollhouse" from its Vegas version."

Um... no.

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TechEverlasting
#9re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/18/07 at 8:08am

I saw Hairspray in Las Vegas, and I'm positive there was no "Big Dollhouse". The show didn't have an intermission, so they didn't need an Act 2 opener.

Edit: Or are you saying they cut more than that? Sort of hard to tell from "Um... no".


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Updated On: 2/18/07 at 08:08 AM

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#10re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/18/07 at 8:13am

If you have seen the Broadway version, why waste time with this or any vegas version?

Why would Brooks or any creator of a show willingly watch their show cut to pieces? He does not need the money. Than again, the more rich people have the more they want


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#11re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/18/07 at 8:15am

David Hasselhof is one of musical theater's most brilliant performers.

It doesn't matter what they've cut from the show. As long as the Hoff is on that stage, this will be THE definitive version of "The Producers" for all time.


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Updated On: 2/18/07 at 08:15 AM

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#12re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/18/07 at 8:17am

Just like his version of J/H


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Yankeefan007
#13re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/18/07 at 8:21am

"Yankeefan007, have you seen the show in Vegas? I don't agree with your seeming assertion that character songs aren't an important part of what makes a musical work."

Funny, I don't really recall saying that. Those songs were cut to shorten the nearly 3-hour show. They're songs that are definitely necessary on Broadway, tour, etc. to develop characters. But in a 90 minute version of the show, they're unnecessary, especially when you have an audience of women who only went to see Hasselhoff and men who want to get back to losing the lease on their house and automobile.

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#14re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/18/07 at 8:32am

"Funny, I don't really recall saying that."

Sorry, I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. Here's what you said:

"The "We Can Do It" reprise is unnecessary, as is an "Act One Finale" in a One Act show. Max's section of "'Til Him" doesn't further the plot in the same way that "Betrayed," "Hop Clop," and "Never Say Good Luck" don't. They're all character songs."

I am curious to hear what people who've seen the full length version of the show think of the Readers Digest abridged version.


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#15re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/18/07 at 8:35am

Oh good heavens, there's been SUCH a fuss made of the Hoff in a dress that I only just realised he'll also be dressed as Hitler in the show. Now where can we see photos of THAT? How scary!


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#16re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/18/07 at 8:57am

His German fan base will be doubly satisfied.


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#17re: what songs were cut out of the producers vegas show?
Posted: 2/18/07 at 9:38am

TechEverlasting, I agree with YankeeFan. In a show running only 90 minutes, and for audiences in a Vegas hotel, the plot is much more important than the character songs.


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misto625
#18Producers Vegas Cast List
Posted: 5/6/07 at 1:26pm

Bumping up this thread with a different question- how come the official site for the show still doesn't have a cast list and bios posted, just creative team?


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#19Producers Vegas Cast List
Posted: 5/6/07 at 3:14pm

HAIRSPRAY in Las Vegas not only cut the entire Act 2 opener "The Big Dollhouse", but along with about 8-pages of script being cut (every scene had trimming), it also took out:

a 40-second verse from "Mama, I'm a Big Girl Now"
the entire "(Legend of) Miss Baltimore Crabs" and "Velma's Revenge"
the 2nd verse of "It Takes Two"
the entire reprise of "Good Morning, Baltimore"
the entire "Cooties"

There you go.

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popular_elphie
#20Producers Vegas Cast List
Posted: 5/7/07 at 9:44am

It depends on who is the star of the show for the cuts. On Broadway, of course, Nathan Lane and Broderick were the stars. "Betrayed" was a great song, and it got to show off Nathan doing what he does best.

Because the Las Vegas version centers more around the Hoff, or at least getting the entire DeBris scene in there, more songs circling around the actual producers had to be cut.

I think the biggest losses (though I haven't seen the Vegas version), are "Der Guten Tag Hop Clop" and "That Face" (even though I hate that song). They both are character important - at least in my opinion.

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#21Producers Vegas Cast List
Posted: 5/7/07 at 11:12am

I'm curious to know why they are cutting shows for Vegas in the first place? Just because they think people want to get back to gambling?


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