Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
Of crs
Basically everything horrific has been rebranded as a good thing.
Silence = Death has now become the Day of Silence.
The Project Names Memorial AIDS Quilt is now Quiltbag
What's next?
Dude! Kaposi Sarcoma is spinning tonight! We are SO there!
Perhaps I need to get out of my socially progressive... quiltbag, but it seems odd to me that someone hasn't even heard the term "intersex" in 2014. But then I asked my grandmother and she had no idea what it meant either, so, there's that.
I had to look at the date to see if this was a freakishly old thread!
"If they keep adding letters to LGBTI...eventually when you come out as gay you will just have to say "I'm only gay" and it will be boring.
Seriously - not being sarcastic...who decides when to add a letter to LGBT?"
This question has far less to do with the biological concept of intersexuality and far more to do with the political concept of another new word which people would be well-advised to learn: intersectionality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality
Updated On: 11/22/14 at 09:35 PM
Another common acronym is just saying LGBTQ+, though it isn't used as much because people take offense as to not being included in the acronym, and I still just use GSM
I used to be able to say "confirmed bachelor", but then this whole marriage thing had to happen.
That is why Clooney got "married".
Pride Toronto uses LGBTTIQQ2SA.
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual, Transgender, Intersex, Queer/Questioning, 2 Spirited, Allies.
Ok I'll bite. What the hell is 2-spirited? Now THAT'S something I didn't know existed.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/10/08
HorseTears, I'm with your Grandmother. I had never heard the term before either. I assumed what the meaning was. Just never heard the term used. I may need to get out more.
2-Spirited is a Native American/First Nations concept related to gender role transgression. They traditionally considered there to be four genders: masculine men and feminine women, one spirited, and feminine men and masculine women, two-spirited. The two-spirited people were said to have shamanic tendencies and were considered holy in a way.
^ Thanks for that explanation, darquegk. Truly never heard the term before.
A decidedly binary idea of Gayness though based on your description: feminine men and masculine women only. Wonder what those cultures would make of manly men who love men, and womanly women who love women?
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
I'm sure they passed as similar types probably think they do now.
Wouldn't 2-spirited already be included in the LGBT part?
I'm not seeing what's so different about it as to require a separate classification.
Am I misunderstanding?
Questioning inclusiveness is exclusive.
I won't lie. Having read and seen so much about intersexed individuals in the past decade (there are a couple of interesting documentaries), just after proudly announcing to my wife, "Baby, she's blonde!" (I won that bet), I checked out her junk to see if anything else was going on down there.
I'm also pretty surprised at the number of people who didn't know the term. For the record, it's a replacement for the term hermaphrodite, which is not considered an appropriate label anymore, so should not be used in addition to intersex.
Anyways, intersex people are much more common than society would like anyone to believe. No, not some big majority of people, but there's definitely more gender assignment happening directly after birth than people think.
^Which is why I wanted to know immediately. Many of the stories of children whose parents chose the incorrect gender at birth were heartbreaking. I was fully prepared to argue what would actually be "best" for my child.
There was an episode of Masters of Sex that involved a plotline with an intersex baby. I believe it was Season 2, Episode 3, "The Fight".
I am pretty sure there was an ER episode, too. The mom died in childbirth and the father was left to face it alone.
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