everythingtaboo said: "A lot of people confuse whispering with speaking at normal volume, except really breathy. Anyway, why people can't shut up I'll never understand. I go people sometimes who try to talk and I just nod in reply. "
I once did standing room next to a person I wasn't necessarily friends with, but we knew of each other and had spoken in line before. DURING A SONG she decides to turn to me and tell me how much she misses that performer's predecessor. WTF? (A) I don't care and (B) why are you telling me this during the show?
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When the lights go down, shut your mouth. Movie, play, musical, opera, ballet, it's all the same. You are not more important than the thing that you paid to come and see.
If you are excited to say a few words to your friend about something in the show which you nor they will remember after the show, since it probably is a fleeing moment that you deserve to share, whispering in their ear is the considerate way to do it.
If you have no tolerance for another person doing that, you sound like a stuffed shirt who wandered over here from ATC. (does that place still exist?)
"The urge to speak during key scenes -- or immediately after personal annotation -- "she's so good here, she usually plays comedy, but she's very believable, don'tcha think?" -- seems to be catching."
Oh, God. This so much. I usually just suck it up and stay silent. I haven't noticed it too much on Broadway. It seems to happen quite a bit at off-Broadway shows and occasionally when I see Met Live in HD broadcasts.
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"I don't agree that talking to a neighbor should be an expected part of the theater experience. But by the same token, we should expect to maintain our concentration during minor distractions such as whispering or a partially blocked view. Even an occasional cough or mid-scene trip to the bathroom should be something we can survive."
I agree with your theory about private/public viewing of art. But I think expecting minor distractions is different from tolerating rudeness. As for the bathroom thing, I once went to a show where a girl got up 10 minutes before the intermission. I mean, really?
I have a friend that sees shows with me frequently and he always tries to do with Jane2 does- just make random comments that distract me and that could totally wait for an applause moment or better yet for the end of the act. What I do is pretend not to notice he's whispering to me or I just look at him with a furrowed brow and he usually gives up trying to talk during the show.
it sounds like we are heading in the direction of everyone in the theater having a reason to talk at any given time. This is why I try my best to sit as far up as possible. The random yammering is less annoying when it's behind me.
talking during a show except in an emergency is egocentric at best and narcissistic at worst. Unfortunately, people suffering from either of those conditions are by definition not only oblivious to the wrongness of their behavior but actually proud of it. That is a part of the pathology. That is the essence of what is on display in this thread. Regrettably it is pointless to try to reason with people with these sorts of diseases. Just like body odor, it is just something we have to do our best to ignore.
I don't know if it's a generational thing or an individual thing. I find 'younger' (20-30 rage) audiences to be more respectful and conscious over their behavior than most 'elderly' audience members. Some older patrons have this attitude that they are above courtesy and owe it to no one. I've seen young ushers get verbally abused because there's no elevator, the bathroom is in the lobby, etc... All things that are not the fault of the ushers, but they get hassled for it anyways. I once sat far right orchestra in the very first row and the (young-ish) couple next to me would not stop talking to each other, and it was during spoken scenes and not during musical numbers.
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I've definitely found what you've said to be the case as well, atuomala.
The one time I saw Cinderella on Broadway (and Elf on tour), I was afraid both times that the children in the audience would make a lot of noise -- this wasn't the case. Those were two really great audiences. Some of them got a little predictably wiggly when they were restless, but they were pretty engaged, but quiet for the most part. It was their parents who were making more noise, either to each other or to check up on the kids, who really didn't need any checking up on.
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I also don't quite get the people who think the overture is more of a notice to start wrapping up their conversations, and not like, the show beginning...
"Part of the enjoyment of going to a show with a friend is to share some thoughts about it at the moment. You and Lizzie Curry may not care to do that but my friends and I (all theater professionals) do."
You and your friends may work in theater, Jane, but you are not being professional if you're talking during a performance. Theater professionals really, really don't talk during performances. My theater-going partners and I frequently split up in order to get better seats, because, after all, we won't be talking to one another during the show. At intermission, sure. After, most definitely. During?
Not ever. It's rude to the performers and rude to your fellow patrons. It also takes you, yourself, out of the play. I am very surprised that you not only defend talking during a performance, but do it yourself.
You've admitted yourself that you sometimes speak louder than you mean to because of your hearing loss. I really hope you rethink this entitled habit of yours.
How hard should it be for an adult to sit still and quiet for a couple of hours and enjoy a show they paid a lot of money for. <<
Thanks to the constant stream of stimulation from phones, tablets, computers, etc., a growing number of people these days don't know how to sit still, be quiet, and pay strict attention to anything. They can't tell the difference any more between something that's 'live' and something that's on a screen and not live. A theater show is just one more thing they can talk back to because I think people have lost the ability to understand that those are real people up there who can see and hear them, not a TV show or YouTube video that doesn't know they're there. They're so used to being able to talk back to the screen that they don't know how to stop, even when the screen isn't there.
Oh, please. They know there are real people in front of them, they just forgot that it's different.
I also don't think it's an age thing . There are just far more adults in a theater than younger people.
I've had my share of talkers of every age.
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haterobics said: "I also don't quite get the people who think the overture is more of a notice to start wrapping up their conversations, and not like, the show beginning..."
I agree. I love an overture and am focused the minute it starts. It's distracting when others aren't. I mean, it doesn't exactly set my teeth on edge, but can still be bothersome.
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Oh my gosh people. Jane isn't talking about carrying on a full 5 minute conversation to the person next to her. I will be the first to say I hate cell phones, I hate unwrapping of candy, I hate excessive talking. If I could be in the theater (movie or Broadway) completely by myself that would be my ultimate experience. But for all of you that stated you have never talked during a show, I call out bull****. To state that you never ever ever ever ever, turned to a friend/companion and whispered "wow that's amazing" (when the ship came out at King and I) or when Chita first makes her appearance at The Visit and you state "she looks fantastic"or hundreds of other type comments during a show, I ain't buying it. I know I have. Maybe Jane and I are the honest ones here.
ArtMan said: "But for all of you that stated you have never talked during a show, I call out bull****. To state that you never ever ever ever ever, turned to a friend/companion and whispered "wow that's amazing" (when the ship came out at King and I) or when Chita first makes her appearance at The Visit and you state "she looks fantastic"or hundreds of other type comments during a show, I ain't buying it. I know I have. Maybe Jane and I are the honest ones here."
I KNOW MY TRUTH, ART!
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