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Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
#25re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/6/04 at 8:31am
I know i am a foreigner, so maybe this is really none of my business. I am simply expressing MY opinion which may be wrong, so don't jump on my back :) But...respect for the dead ??? Respect for a person who sentenced thousands of young people to slow agonizing death because of his homophobic reluctance to deal with AIDS and start research immediately ? Respect for someone who died peacefully in his rich home at 93, while thousands died on cold hospital beds because of his bigotry and hate ? Sorry...NO !!!
Take care
#26re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/6/04 at 9:24am
Why should I respect the man when he is dead, when I hated him when he was alive. I watched too many of my friends die, while "our president" never even said the word AIDS publicly until his last year of his terms of office. He then set up a panel to advise him on the issue, and when they gave him their report which, considering the panel he picked, gave some very good recommendations, he ignored every single one of them.
Like Namo, and the Chorus Line Song, I feel nothing.
Bye Ronnie, you were as good of president as you were an actor - Lousy.
WindyCityActor
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/13/03
#27re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/6/04 at 12:25pm
Thank you Greekmusicfan...
And, I also feel nothing...
Respect for the dead? The man couldn't be bothered to respect the thousands dying horrible deaths during his presidency.
Sorry, that's my opinion...
I've seen too many friends die.
DAME
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/15/04
#28re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/6/04 at 12:27pmI feel nothing for him. Nothing. The only thing I feel is fear now is that CBS might pre empt the Tonys with Some Reagan tribute. Which would be yet another thing the republicans f**k up!
Matt_G
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/1/04
#29re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/6/04 at 12:32pmThank you all for backing me up. You have no idea how many hate messages I received from people after I posted my thoughts before.
Zola Q. LaPlaya
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/25/04
#30re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/6/04 at 12:34pm
Having suffered loss of a family member, I can empathize with his family -- Nancy must feel emotionally drained and hollow after spending 10 years in that house taking care of him.
But really, I feel nothing. He was a horrible president: when he had the chance to halt an epidemic, he chose to do nothing. You all can admire his warmth, his humor, his collegiality, his sunny disposition, his hatred of communism and his economics. At least respect my strong dislike of his social policies which helped sentence thousands of young and vibrant gay men to their deaths.
#31re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/6/04 at 4:20pmi just checked the cbs website and they are doing a reagan tribute on 60 mins from 7-8 so it shouldn't mess up our beloved tonys :)
Auggie27
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/13/03
#32re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/6/04 at 7:54pmThe Assassins number will have some resonance, no?
Matt_G
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/1/04
#33re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/6/04 at 7:58pmNot with that audience!
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#34re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/6/04 at 11:46pm
I see we have the makings of a pretty sizeable Feeling Nothing Affinity Group.
And you know, Feeling Nothing is pretty good at the death of a man who left the world a much worse place for his having been here.
#35re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/7/04 at 12:08am
this is making me even more anxious for that damn angels in america dvd that netflix keeps telling me i'll have a "very long wait" for.
i wonder what would've happened if dubya had been president during the era ragen served...
Matt_G
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/1/04
#36re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/7/04 at 12:17amstateofmind, that thought will give me nightmares for weeks.
#37re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/7/04 at 12:28am
sorry, matt g. just speculation. and food for thought, when you consider it that way, you realize that things could be worse than they are right now... i guess. like i said, just a thought.
#38re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/7/04 at 9:37am
I was listening to the coverage on NPR on Saturday and was shocked at how positive the stories were. There was so much said about his "Legacy". Unfortunatley, part of the man's legacy was the death of millions of people from AIDS when he refused to see it as a serious epidemic that needed funding. Over recent years, research and the development of more effcetive medication have people with HIV and AIDS living long, relatively normal lives. Had Reagan taken this problem mopre seriously in the beginning, those developments may have come along a lot sooner. Politics aside, the man had the opportunity to do something that may have helped millions and he chose to close his eyes to what was happening.
During his presidency he nearly tripled the national debt. There are a number of things he did wrong that balance out any good he did. I can't feel bad that he ahs passed away. That would be hypocritical for me. He lived to be 93, a long life and although he had Alzheimers for the past ten years, I can't feel too badly about that either. He was fortunate enough to be rich and able to be cared for at home. That's a luxury that most people with Alzheimers do not have. So, he had a long and mostly happy life, it seems. Now he's dead...no big deal.
iflitifloat
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/10/03
#39re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/7/04 at 12:44pmJust kicking this back up to the top for the benefit of Jamie McG...
wickedrawbrt
Stand-by Joined: 3/26/04
#40re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/7/04 at 1:22pm
I will say I feel something, complete and utter hatred. I watched friends being sentenced to death because of that hateful man. He allowed millions to die. The only thing I would like more than his death, was to know that it was at least as painful as those who had to wither and die because of his lack of compassion.
Yes, indeed, I feel something.
#41re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/7/04 at 1:25pmWhat really pisses me off is that Reagan had the gall to die on D-Day weekend! All the media was poised and ready to saturate the airwaves with commemorations of a truly world-altering event -- only to have it relegated to second tier because Reagan finally kicked, like it was some big monumental surprise or something. If I was a World War II vet, I'd be livid.
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#42re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/7/04 at 7:59pm
Another part of the story.
http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/printer_8675.shtmlhttp://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/printer_8675.shtml>http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/printer_8675.shtml
Updated On: 6/7/04 at 07:59 PM
Dollypop
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
#43re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/7/04 at 11:13pmIt's always sad when a public firgure like Ronal Reagan passes on. The true tragedy is that he didn't live to see Idina win the Tony Award last night. I know he would have been pleased.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#44re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/8/04 at 12:12amI'm sure they carry the Tonys in heaven. Oh wait, that means he definitely missed the Tonys.
DAME
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/15/04
#46re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/8/04 at 12:23am
In the case of 'speak no ill of the dead' I thought some of you might like to read Hunter S. Thompson's 'eulogy' for Richard Nixon, written a week or so after Nixon's death.
It's an hysterical outpouring of bile and hatred.
Fear and Loathing in the White House
iflitifloat
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/10/03
#47re: Ronald Reagan, dead at 93
Posted: 6/8/04 at 12:34amAh, the memories. No one does loathing quite as well as Hunter.
#48hst is a god
Posted: 6/8/04 at 12:41amok, i hold nixon in a bit higher esteem than our intrepid gonzo-ist, but lord a'mighty there's nothing like a thompson piece. you don't have to agree with it to marvel at it and revel in it. his stuff on gw is even more vicious if you can imagine.
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#49hst is a god
Posted: 6/8/04 at 8:24am
Ok, I've seen it all now. Amid this mornings news coverage of the thousands standing in line for hours awaiting their opportunity to have some part in this national grief session, the Today Show interviewed did a segment with Chris Matthews and his view on the effects of Reagan's death. It was absolutely unbelievable to hear Mr Matthews who, during Reagan's presidency was an aide to Speaker Tip O'Neil,one of Regan's most outspoken opponents, using phrases like "his greatness and majesty" in refrence to Reagan.
I realize that there are people who genuinely liked Reagan and who will sincerely feel sadness over his death but, why is that when someone dies those who disliked the deceased can suddenly speak so highly of them? I understand the need that many people have to feel that they are personally effected, to mourn in order to feel apart of this but blatant hypocrisy is a bit much.
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