The George Zimmerman Trial- Page 13

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 2:10pm

You said good day!

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 2:13pm

It was a private message making a request. Owen 22 didn't try to publicly shame Jordan. Why didn't Jordan simply privately decline (with extreme prejudice if need be) instead of making it public? Now we have a page that's ALL about Jordan and his avatar - and THAT's what's disrespectful. If anyone has a response to this, please do it via PM. Thanks.

I'll answer your question. Jordan didn't decline it via PM because it was his choice to do so. What was DISRESPECTFUL was Owen 22 having the AUDACITY to PM him making the request in the first place. He has no right telling people what do. And for the record I purposely ignored your request to address this via PM because it's my choice not do so.

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 2:21pm

Why all this discussion about Pre-Menstrual?

[Renart]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 2:23pm

"Trayvon Martin was confronted by Zimmerman. He was profiled. I guess Stand your Ground only refers then to the person with a gun."

According to the prosecution's witness, Martin made the first contact. Zimmerman was just walking down the street in the same direction. That's not a crime. Martin would have had no way of knowing if Zimmerman was going to harm him or whether he was walking to his aunt's house down the street. It would have been different if Zimmerman was walking toward him menacingly or preventing him from passing. But he wasn't. If Zimmerman was brandishing the weapon from the start how could Martin have gotten on top of him (as an eyewitness reported)?

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 2:23pm

LOL @ brdlwyr!!!

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 2:24pm

He was walking down the street after him after following him with his car, right?

[artscallion]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 2:39pm

And according to the phone call he was on at the time, Martin was well aware that Zimmerman was following him around in his car. If it had been me, and this someone suddenly was out of their car walking down the street after me, I would feel VERY threatened. So much so that I might be inclined to stand my ground.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 2:40pm

Martin was black and walking down the street. Also not a crime.

[tazber]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 2:46pm

It was a private message making a request. Owen 22 didn't try to publicly shame Jordan. Why didn't Jordan simply privately decline (with extreme prejudice if need be) instead of making it public? Now we have a page that's ALL about Jordan and his avatar - and THAT's what's disrespectful. If anyone has a response to this, please do it via PM. Thanks.

If you are so concerned about this being discussed publicly then why did you bother to post that comment? You're just adding fuel to the fire.

And I find that disrespectful.

We should all remember to have our avatars and posts approved by a committee of mods. That's the only way to guarantee no one will be offended.

this message has been approved and deemed unoffensive for the masses

Updated On: 7/16/13 at 02:46 PM

[Renart]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 2:57pm

"Martin was black and walking down the street. Also not a crime."

And Zimmerman did not arrest him or accost him or throw him to the ground.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 2:58pm

@ tazzy: I am highly offended! HOW DARE YOU SIR!

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 2:58pm

But he did execute him!

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 2:59pm

It's like that scene in Altman's "Popeye," where all the Oyls keep saying "You owe me an apology!"

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 3:01pm

I agree with Renart: Zimmerman, though armed and having reported seeing a black kid, was simply (and coincidentally) walking behind Martin in the same direction, very likely on his way to visit an aunt, when all of a sudden with no provocation, Martin tried to kill him.

[Liza's Headband]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 3:01pm

"And Zimmerman did not arrest him or accost him or throw him to the ground."

Yeah... According to Zimmerman. If you believe him and actually find his story credible, despite his long history of overzealous behavior and initial assumptions (I don't care who you are. Referring to an innocent black child as a "Suspect" is incredulous)

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 5:06pm

With every post he posts, I'm now more convinced than ever that mikey has a mental problem


And my avatar isn't changing for anyone

Updated On: 7/16/13 at 05:06 PM

[mikey2573]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 8:59pm

"Trayvon Martin was confronted by Zimmerman."

The evidence does not support that statement. Not only does it contradict Zimmerman's account, it also contradicts Martin's girl friend's account, as she testified that Trayvon approached and spoke to the Zimmerman first. Why do people come here and post things that are blatantly false? PROVABLY false!!

"He was profiled."

He was CRIMINALLY profiled. He was not RACIALLY profiled, and Zimmerman was not certain of Martin's race. And profiling is not illegal.

"That is unless you are a black woman who chooses to fire off a warning shot to stop an attack."

Yes, I have read about that case and it makes absolutely no sense to me. Hopefully that will be fixed on appeal.

"Which act did Zimmerman witness before he murdered Trayvon Martin?"

He witnessed Trayvon Marin physically assaulting him (Zimmerman). Assault is a crime in every state.

""And Zimmerman did not arrest him or accost him or throw him to the ground."

Yeah... According to Zimmerman."

And according to Trayvon's girl friend who was on the phone with him at the time.

"With every post he posts, I'm now more convinced than ever that mikey has a mental problem"

Don't just come on here and call names and make personal attacks. PROVE ME WRONG!

[Reginald Tresilian]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 9:06pm

Can someone more familiar than I with dealing with clinical cases of narcissism explain to this person why no one here is interested in proving--much less obligated to prove--anything at all to him?

He's expressed his opinion. Others have expressed theirs, in agreement or otherwise. Why does he require everyone to agree or prove their right to disagree?

It's very odd.

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 9:20pm

Because he likes to scream WRONG at people.



It's sad, really...

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 7/16/13 at 11:41pm

He longs for GOTCHA moments and he never gets them but he keeps trying. I mean, even invoking Natasha Richardson didn't GET anyone.

[CarlosAlberto]

Posted: 7/17/13 at 1:04am

Updated On: 7/17/13 at 01:04 AM

[Renart]

Posted: 7/17/13 at 7:19am

"I mean, even invoking Natasha Richardson didn't GET anyone."

I took that as a reply to the person who tried to use the initial medical assessment as "proof" that Zimmerman's injuries weren't serious. Rather than dismiss Mikey's comment because it's coming from Mikey, a more intellectually honest response would have been, "Okay, I guess you're right. It is possible for an initial medical assessment to understate an injury."

[best12bars]

Posted: 7/17/13 at 8:09am

Listening to all these couchside law professors saying, "That's the law, folks. Get over it," I'm reminded of one of my favorite lines from Oliver Twist, said by Mr. Bumble:

"Then the law is a ass ... and the worst I wish the law is, that his eye may be opened by experience — by experience."

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 7/17/13 at 9:42am

Juror B37 makes a nice argument for trial by the Court rather than a jury!

[mikey2573]

Posted: 7/17/13 at 10:40am

"It is possible for an initial medical assessment to understate an injury."

Not only that, but head injuries can be very serious, very quickly. A punch to the face like the one Trayvon delivered to Zimmerman can kill someone or cause permanent brain damage. To continue to traumatize the head after that punch could have been very serious, very quickly. Basically, you don't mess around when it comes to head injuries.

"why no one here is interested in proving--much less obligated to prove--anything at all to him?"

Yes. The reason why no one is interested in proving me wrong is because no one here can. Simple as that. The FACTS of the case are pretty well known, and easily checked via a simple Google search. Take, for example, Liza's claim that Zimmerman said it was not him screaming for help; this was easy to prove as false with a simple Google search. It brought me to excerpts of the Detective's interview with Zimmerman the night of the incident and to his exact quote, "He was wailing on my head, I started yelling for help." How or why anyone would continue to dispute that fact, despite the links I provided, defies logic.

So the reason that no one is "interested in proving" me wrong is really quite simple; THEY CAN'T!

"He's expressed his opinion."

Not really. Looking over my posts in this thread, most of them are opinion-free. What I have done is posted FACTS which directly dispute the fabrications of other posters. As is typical of people of this ilk, when presented with indisputable FACTS they do one of two things; run and hide or start name-calling and personal attacks. Something I have not resorted to.