clinton vs. sanders your vote? — Page 106

"Clinton's speech at AIPAC was great, if you're a war hawk."



http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/mar/22/brussels-airport-explosions-live-updates



I find the prospect of a Hillary Clinton administration comforting in times such as these that are so fraught with peril. Hillary is neither a warmonger nor tree hugger. Looking forward to her steady hand and though I'm no longer a person of faith, I pray that she's elected POTUS.

Updated On: 3/22/16 at 12:10 PM

The issue with Hillary's AIPAC speech is that it did not acknowledge the atrocities caused by both sides or the reason why this conflict exists in the first place.



http://www.juancole.com/images/2016/03/map-story-of-palestinian-nationhood-750x500.jpg

There are no two sides, qolbinau. Just one. Don't you remember? The Palestinians are an "imagined people" - they do not exist. A mirage in the desert.



I don't think any true leftist is going to enjoy any speech a politician is going to make at AIPAC. It's just a an annual tradition for every national public figure with political aspirations to debase him/herself in front of that organization and argue about who has the biggest h@rd0n for the Israeli far right. And, frankly, every single one of those political figures has to do this - whether they truly feel that way or not - or their careers will be finished.



While I think it's fair to be critical of some of Hillary's remarks, it would have been political suicide for her not to have done it, so I don't think you can really expect her to have skipped it or, even more inconceivably, given a speech that even hinted at objections to some of the Israeli government's policies. It's one of those rare bipartisan obligations of national politics. Just like any Republican (and many conservative Dems) have to bow down to the NRA. And, at least until Citizens United is overturned, true campaign finance reform happens and the power of lobbyists is severely blunted, that's just the way it's going to be.

Updated On: 3/22/16 at 07:18 PM

Well, SF, Bernie has the luxury of being a populist insurgent candidate with that fresh new car smell. He, also, let's face it, has virtually no chance of clinching the nomination at this point and is likely instead working on establishing his legacy and building a longer-term progressive movement. Which is fabulous, but it also means there's virtually no personal value in him kowtowing AIPAC. Hillary does not have that luxury and, I think, in this current political system, it's unfair to expect her to be able to be as much of a purist as Bernie is.

javero said: ""Clinton's speech at AIPAC was great, if you're a war hawk."



http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/mar/22/brussels-airport-explosions-live-updates



I find the prospect of a Hillary Clinton administration comforting in times such as these that are so fraught with peril. Hillary is neither a warmonger nor tree hugger. Looking forward to her steady hand and though I'm no longer a person of faith, I pray that she's elected POTUS."

Hillary Clinton’s Libya

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bromwich/hillary-clintons-libya_b_8590130.html

Bernie is a feeble, loud old man who is at best a novelty for dumb millennials and far out liberals who still like Pete Seeger. Mrs. Clinton will be a fine president who is tough, smart, fair, and a REALIST. Mr. Sanders' philosophies are better for 1976, not 2016. This is real life not an old Frank Capra film. Trump would destroy him in debates.

That was the most subdued speech I've ever seen Hillary give. Well done!

javero said: "Simplicity wins elections and complexity rules administrations.



No amount of Monday morning quarterbacking with respect to Hillary's handling of the Libya crisis will change the fact that she owns the best foreign policy chops on both sides of the ledger. The state of affairs in the Middle East is so complicated that mishaps will occur on occasion. The situation is further exacerbated by the ominous threat of ISIS throughout Europe. I don't give a fig about the how's and why's at this point. This is no time for a foreign policy neophyte as POTUS. I'll take Hillary warts and all."

It's not just Libya, It's Iraq, it's Honduras, etc. There's a whole lot of warts.

"Every time Sanders is challenged on how he plans to get his agenda through Congress and past the special interests, he responds that the "political revolution" that sweeps him into office will somehow be the magical instrument of the monumental changes he describes. This is a vague, deeply disingenuous idea that ignores the reality of modern America."



Amen.

60 polling stations for 5 million people.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeNx7iBX_i4

That is such a disgrace to the very fundamentals of this society. Where will this country end up with only 60 polling stations? Not in the right direction that's for sure.

Open your own mind, Your hatred of her borders on the psychotic.

Yes, but do you think she would endorse this investigation?



http://usuncut.com/news/arizona-polling-disaster/