clinton vs. sanders your vote? — Page 99

"Misspoke" is an understatement, but I accept her apology.

Well... let's not get hysterical.

PalJoey said: " This will be remembered as the sad day on which Hillary lost the presidency to Donald Trump."

Okaayyy. Apparently this is not worthy of discussion. Somehow I feel it would have been had Bernie or one of the Repubs made similar remarks. But, maybe I'm part of the vast right-wing conspiracy.

Updated On: 3/11/16 at 06:03 PM

It was a failed attempt at an encomium for a former first lady lying in state by an exhausted candidate herself a former first lady. This too shall pass.

Updated On: 3/11/16 at 06:09 PM

Sigh... it was dumb thing to say, and I am glad she apologized, glad to see that Sander's isn't pandering and using the gaff the way a lot his supporters seem to be. It's a larger conversation than that.

Ann Sanders all the way

You're right. The majority doesn't give a s**t about Gay history or AIDS.

It is painful to admit that the average Joe doesn't give a s**t about our history. But, to trot out that age-old chestnut of maternal passive-aggression: If Average Joe jumped off a bridge, would you as well? And who the f**k wants to be average, anyway?

I'm not sure I buy that, Jay. There is no one running for president who can match Hillary's fierce intellect, her breadth of experience or depth of knowledge of the political system. It was a mistake, but it was not just a gaffe. Or exhaustion. Or the oft-repeated "misspoken" statement. While I, respectfully, reject Borstal's assertion that this is another illustration of Hillary's supposed deference to the party elite or to special interests, now that I think about it, I do think it is is illustrative of something that cuts to the core of Hillary. She is, as she often says, a pragmatic progressive.

Hillary's argument was that, despite her husband's administration's abject failure and refusal to acknowledge the magnitude of the AIDS crisis, Nancy Reagan quietly (and only when absolutely convenient to her) occasionally advocated for more compassionate treatment of the crisis. And, in a couple of isolated incidents - like supposedly pushing her husband to appoint one openly gay doctor to an AIDS panel in the late 80s - she might have done that. Of course, we all know that a couple of isolated incidents do not discount the fact that the Reagans' true legacy on the AIDS crisis may be found in graveyards across this country.

The problem is, Hillary is looking at the AIDS crisis from Nancy Reagan's perspective instead of of from the perspective of the millions of Americans impacted. Hillary's probably never been the first to say or do anything (except for, possibly be the first woman President!). She believes in incremental change. Bernie believes in (some will argue, the way children believe in fairy tales) revolutionary change. For all the talk about Wall Street and paid speeches and campaign finance reform, this is really what the Democratic race for the White House is about: incremental vs. revolutionary change.

Updated On: 3/11/16 at 07:42 PM

Having lost friends and family in the first wave, I'm not about to discount the gravity of the crisis during Reagan's administration nor am I going to beatify Nancy as a fierce HIV/AIDS activist. However, each of us has an outrage quota. Once we red line it, we start tuning out the rest. I personally attribute Hillary's unfortunate remarks to utter exhaustion. The debates, caucuses, town halls, and primary elections have no doubt taken a toll on her mentally and physically.

And many Americans now have a nanosecond attention span. I'd hazard a guess that the bedlam that ensued at the Trump Chicago rally a few minutes ago will consume the airwaves and retain mind-share over the entire weekend and the early part of next week.

It's not that the average Joe or Jane is unconcerned with all of the issues that occupy our thoughts. They are dealing with the day-to-day like how to eek out a living, obtain/maintain a healthy work-life balance, get/stay married/un-married, obtain/maintain a happy home, plan for retirement, etc. Don't mean to be glib, but one person's "the sky is falling" is another's "shaite happens".

MIRE PROOF THEY ARE WORKING IN COLLUSION!

I'd hang my chad on that.