Mr. Wormwood said: "uncageg said: "DramaTeach said: "I honestly don’t see a world where they can leave out The Wiz. It’s the only musical with a predominantly Black cast, and, whether the show deserves the nomination or not, it would be bad optics to leave it out. This is obviously between Cabaret and Merrily though."
If it isn't worthy of a nomination then it shouldn't be nominated. Optics or no optics. JMO
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That might be true philosophically but it's not always true in reality"
Yes, we know this. That is why I said JMO - Just My Opinion.
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DramaTeach said: "I honestly don’t see a world where they can leave out The Wiz. It’s the only musical with a predominantly Black cast, and, whether the show deserves the nomination or not, it would be bad optics to leave it out. This is obviously between Cabaret and Merrily though."
Totally agree. The Wiz will be nominated. For all the reasons you state plus it’s still open. It’s so much fun and much improved since Tour.
So, is the Tony admin committee REALLY going to make us wait all the way until the 26th to find out all their rulings? It's absurd that there has only been one announcement. And they apparently met early last month (when it leaked that they put Appropriate in revival) yet they didn't make any announcement on decisions at that time? Strange. If they don't release another round of decisions soon, the press release on the 26th is going to be a mile long.
We still need to know lead/featured placements for The Notebook actors, Betsy Aidem, Ali Louis Bourzgui, Spamalot actors, etc. There's a lot to get through before they have all the considerations for the last minute openers (ie: Illinoise actors lead or featured? Is Mary Jane new or revival?)
I'm really hoping that rulings come out today or tomorrow, but I haven't heard a peep.
Then why on earth has this person not been removed, because this kind of language should not be tolerated!
Looks like the Mods deleted Flash's racist post. Good first step, now Mods, do the right thing and REMOVE him permanently!
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And somehow every time someone calls out "Broadway Flash" -- then THOSE posts are deleted. Hmmmm...
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Flash has also been called out more than enough times that they should have been long gone
Here are my random guesses as of today:
BEST MUSICAL
Hell’s Kitchen
Here Lies Love
Illinoise
The Outsiders
Suffs
BEST REVIVAL OF A MUSICAL
Cabaret
Gutenberg! The Musical!
Merrily We Roll Along
The Wiz
BEST ACTOR IN A MUSICAL
Cabaret, Eddie Redmayne
Days of Wine and Roses, Brian d’Arcy James
Harmony, Chip Zien
Merrily We Roll Along, Jonathan Groff
The Outsiders, Brody Grant
BEST ACTRESS IN A MUSICAL
Cabaret, Gayle Rankin
Days of Wine and Roses, Kelli O’Hara
Hell’s Kitchen, Maleah Joi Moon
Lempicka, Eden Espinosa
Suffs, Shaina Taub
BEST FEATURED ACTOR IN A MUSICAL
Hell’s Kitchen, Brandon Victor Dixon
Here Lies Love, Conrad Ricamora
Merrily We Roll Along, Daniel Radcliffe
The Outsiders, Joshua Boone
The Outsiders, Brent Comer
BEST FEATURED ACTRESS IN A MUSICAL
Cabaret, Bebe Neuwirth
Merrily We Roll Along, Lindsay Mendez
Monty Python’s Spamalot, Leslie Rodriguez Kritzer
The Notebook, Maryann Plunkett
The Outsiders, Emma Pittman
BEST DIRECTION OF A MUSICAL
Cabaret, Rebecca Frecknall
Here Lies Love, Alex Timbers
Illinoise, Justin Peck
Merrily We Roll Along, Maria Friedman
Suffs, Leigh Silverman
BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
Days of Wine and Roses
Here Lies Love
Lempicka
The Outsiders
Suffs
BEST BOOK OF A MUSICAL
Days of Wine and Roses
Hell’s Kitchen
Lempicka
The Outsiders
Suffs
BEST CHOREOGRAPHY
Cabaret
Hell’s Kitchen
Illinoise
The Outsiders
The Wiz
BEST ORCHESTRATIONS
Days of Wine and Roses
Hell’s Kitchen
Here Lies Love
Merrily We Roll Along
Suffs
BEST SCENIC DESIGN OF A MUSICAL
Cabaret
The Great Gatsby
Here Lies Love
Water for Elephants
The Wiz
BEST COSTUME DESIGN OF A MUSICAL
Cabaret
Lempicka
Merrily We Roll Along
Suffs
The Wiz
BEST LIGHTING DESIGN OF A MUSICAL
Cabaret
Here Lies Love
Illinoise
The Outsiders
Water for Elephants
BEST SOUND DESIGN OF A MUSICAL
Back to the Future
Here Lies Love
Lempicka
Merrily We Roll Along
The Outsiders
BEST PLAY
Jaja’s African Hair Braiding
Mother Play
Patriots
Prayer for the French Republic
Stereophonic
BEST REVIVAL OF A PLAY
Appropriate
Doubt
An Enemy of the People
Purlie Victorious
BEST ACTOR IN A PLAY
Doubt, Liev Schreiber
An Enemy of the People, Jeremy Strong
Patriots, Michael Stuhlbarg
Purlie Victorious, Leslie Odom Jr.
BEST ACTRESS IN A PLAY
Appropriate, Sarah Paulson
Doubt, Amy Ryan
Mary Jane, Rachel McAdams
Mother Play, Jessica Lange
BEST FEATURED ACTOR IN A PLAY
Appropriate, Corey Stoll
An Enemy of the People, Michael Imperioli
Patriots, Will Keen
Stereophonic, Will Brill
Uncle Vanya, William Jackson Harper
BEST FEATURED ACTRESS IN A PLAY
Doubt, Zoe Kazan
Doubt, Quincy Tyler Bernstine
Mother Play, Celia Keenan-Bolger
Prayer for the French Republic, Francis Benhamou
Purlie Victorious, Kara Young
BEST DIRECTION OF A PLAY
Appropriate, Lila Neugebauer
An Enemy of the People, Sam Gold
Prayer for the French Republic, David Cromer
Purlie Victorious, Kenny Leon
Stereophonic, Daniel Aukin
BEST SCENIC DESIGN OF A PLAY
Doubt
Grey House
Patriots
Purlie Victorious
Stereophonic
BEST COSTUME DESIGN OF A PLAY
The Cottage
An Enemy of the People
Mother Play
Purlie Victorious
Stereophonic
BEST LIGHTING DESIGN OF A PLAY
Appropriate
An Enemy of the People
Patriots
Purlie Victorious
Stereophonic
BEST SOUND DESIGN OF A PLAY
Appropriate
Patriots
Purlie Victorious
The Shark Is Broken
Stereophonic
^^ leaving Tommy out of Revival is a surprising prediction. I feel like it's nearly as much of a lock as Merrily and Cabaret (albeit with no chance of winning).
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DramaTeach said: "I honestly don’t see a world where they can leave out The Wiz. It’s the only musical with a predominantly Black cast, and, whether the show deserves the nomination or not, it would be bad optics to leave it out. This is obviously between Cabaret and Merrily though."
being the only musical with a predominantly (blank) cast isn't a reason something should be nominated if it's not actually a good production, the critics are going to slaughter it as the bus and truck tour stop cash grab that it is
Isn't Hells Kitchen largely people of color? Obv I haven't seen it yet.
dramamama611 said: "Isn't Hells Kitchen largely people of color? Obv I haven't seen it yet."
Yes, it’s mostly people of color (and not just Black, the ensemble is a good mix).
It’s interesting we don’t talk about Here Lies Love as the “diverse” option, even though it was historic in its all-Filipino casting. It got much better reviews than most other shows. (By the way, this won’t be eligible for Best Orchestrations since there really weren’t any due to the heavy use of prerecorded music. I don’t believe there’s even an orchestrator credited.)
I think since this season is all over the place, and since nominators and voters have to see everything in order to vote, I think we might see representation from closed shows and even some surprise winners. It might not be spring-heavy like we think. I personally would love to see Kelli and BDJ as eventual winners; they gave the performances of their careers.
If nominators love Illinoise, I expect at least one of the performers to be nominated, and it might be a frontrunner in the Orchestrations category (because you can see them!).
BoringBoredBoard40 said: "DramaTeach said: "I honestly don’t see a world where they can leave out The Wiz. It’s the only musical with a predominantly Black cast, and, whether the show deserves the nomination or not, it would be bad optics to leave it out. This is obviously between Cabaret and Merrily though."
being the only musical with a predominantly (blank) cast isn't a reason something should be nominated if it's not actually a good production, ...."
I am not expecting great reviews as I feel they may have tinkered with it a bit too much. No Toto, no Flying Monkeys. They replaced and added a few songs. It annoys me that they replaced "I was Born on the Day Before Yesterday" with "You Can't Win". And with no Toto, is Toto even mentioned in this production? Just my random thoughts.
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HeyMrMusic said: "It’s interestingwe don’t talk aboutHere Lies Loveas the “diverse” option, even though it was historic in its all-Filipino casting. It got much better reviews than most other shows. (By the way, this won’t be eligible for Best Orchestrations since there really weren’t any due to the heavy use of prerecorded music. I don’t believe there’s even an orchestrator credited.)"
Genuinely curious since I'm not well-versed in this area, but I wouldn't think that the prerecorded music negates there being an orchestrator for the show, since theoretically someone would still have to decide which instrument played which melodic line and everything even in the prerecorded music. On their website Matt Stine and Justin Levine are credited for "Music Production & Additional Arrangements" so could they also be put into the slot of orchestrators (I'm assuming David Byrne would be the "primary" arranger)? Though, I don't think HLL would necessarily be nominated for orchestrations regardless but I'm wondering what that category would look like on the ballot.
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Does anyone have any idea who wrote the book for Here Lies Love? David Byrne?
The prerecorded music in HLL was, of course, orchestrated. Older credits say that Tony Finno did the orchestral arrangements. But “Orchestrations,” in this sense of the word, is about what is played live in the theatre, or I would assume it does. Regardless, the mess with the musicians’ union is the only thing anyone remembers about the live music aspect of the show. It wouldn’t really be fair to other shows that have the score played live, in my opinion.
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there is no book.
pollster2 said: "Does anyone have any idea who wrote the book for Here Lies Love? David Byrne?"
I’m surprised they didn’t petition Byrne (or Byrne and Timbers) as the bookwriter.
If we go by opening night credits, this isn’t eligible for Book or Orchestrations. This show is one of the only we have official rulings on. The next eligibility meeting will have about 700 shows considered.
(Conversely, Illinoise is now crediting Justin Peck and Jackie Sibblies Drury with the book of the show.)
The Tony Awards website has launched their "This Season" section which sorts all the eligible shows from the season into the production category they are competing in. Despite not making any announcement about it (so bizarre), Appropriate is listed under Revival of a Play. So it looks to be official!
https://www.tonyawards.com/this-season/best-revival-of-a-play/
Curiously, Spamalot, How to Dance in Ohio, Doubt, and Prayer for the French Republic have also been added to these pages even though no announcement on eligibility has been made for those shows. Are they about to send a press release....or did someone just straight up forget to make the announcement? It's truly so strange to have waited so long, especially since it seems they might have ruled on these in January.
yyys said: "there is no book."
It has characters; it has a story; that story is divided into scenes; it has stage directions. Of course it has a book.
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No one credited - and not eligible as HeyMrMusic said above.
kdogg36 said: "yyys said: "there is no book."
It has characters; it has a story; that story is divided into scenes; it has stage directions. Of course it has a book."
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MayAudraBlessYou2 said: "The Tony Awards website has launched their "This Season" section which sorts all the eligible shows from the season into the production category they are competing in. Despite not making any announcement about it (so bizarre), Appropriate is listed under Revival of a Play. So it looks to be official!
https://www.tonyawards.com/this-season/best-revival-of-a-play/
Curiously, Spamalot, How to Dance in Ohio, Doubt, and Prayer for the French Republic have also been added to these pages even though no announcement on eligibility has been made for those shows. Are they about to send a press release....or did someone just straight up forget to make the announcement? It's truly so strange to have waited so long, especially since it seems they might have ruled on these in January."
I think the various category tabs on this site may be a work in progress. The only one I would trust is All Shows. Two quick example: Outsiders doesn't show up under Best Musical, and Tommy doesn't show under Best Revival of a Musical. Both are listed under All Shows though.
yyys said: "look at the post above from HeyMrMusic."
You said there is no book, which is what I was responding to. That's a completely different proposition from its book is not eligible for a Tony.
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I still need to see The Wiz and Mary Jane, but I've seen everything else either off Broadway (Hell's Kitchen/Illinoise) or on (everything else). So off we go with some nomination predictions (in descending order of confidence):
Best Play
Stereophonic
Prayer for the French Republic
Patriots
Jaja's African Hair Braiding
Mary Jane
Best Musical
Suffs
Illinoise
The Outsiders
Here Lies Love
Hell's Kitchen
Play Revival
Appropriate
Purlie Victorious
An Enemy of the People
Musical Revival
Merrily We Roll Along
Cabaret
The Who's Tommy
Gutenberg
Leading Actor Play
Leslie Odom, Jr. - Purlie Victorious
Jeremy Strong - An Enemy of the People
Michael Stuhlbarg - Patriots
Live Schreiber - Doubt
Leading Actress Play
Sarah Paulson - Appropriate
Betsy Aidem - Prayer for the French Republic
Jessica Lange - Mother Play
Rachel McAdams - Mary Jane
Amy Ryan - Doubt
Leading Actor Musical
Jonathan Groff - Merrily We Roll Along
Eddie Redmayne - Cabaret
Brian D'Arcy James - Days of Wine and Roses
Chip Zien - Harmony
Brody Grant - The Outsiders
Leading Actress Musical
Gayle Rankin - Cabaret
Kelli O'Hara - Days of Wine and Roses
Maryann Plunkett - The Notebook
Maleah Joi Moon - Hell's Kitchen
Eden Espinoza - Lempicka
Featured Actress Play
Will Brill - Stereophonic
Will Keen - Patriots
Corey Stoll - Appropriate
William Jackson Harper - Uncle Vanya
Eli Gelb - Stereophonic
Featured Actress Play
Sarah Pidgeon - Stereophonic
Kara Young - Purlie Victorious
Natalie Gold - Appropriate
Francis Benhamou - Prayer for the French Republic
Victoria Pedretti - An Enemy of the People
Featured Actor Musical
Daniel Radcliffe - Merrily We Roll Along
Conrad Ricamora - Here Lies Love
Steven Skybell - Cabaret
Brandon Victor Dixon - Hell's Kitchen
Joshua Boone - The Outsiders
Featured Actress Musical
Bebe Neuwirth - Cabaret
Lindsay Mendez - Merrily We Roll Along
Kecia Lewis - Hell's Kitchen
Nikki M. James - Suffs
Amber Iman - Lempicka
Direction Play
Appropriate
Stereophonic
Purlie Victorious
An Enemy of the People
Patriots
Direction Musical
Merrily We Roll Along
Cabaret
Here Lies Love
Suffs
The Outsiders
Book of a Musical
Suffs
The Notebook
The Outsiders
Days of Wine and Roses
Water for Elephants
Score
Suffs
Days of Wine and Roses
Here Lies Love
The Outsiders
Stereophonic
Scenic Design Play
Stereophonic
Appropriate
Prayer for the French Republic
Grey House
The Cottage
Scenic Design Musical
Cabaret
Here Lies Love
Back to the Future
Water for Elephants
The Great Gatsby
Costume Design Play
Stereophonic
Jaja's African Hair Braiding
An Enemy of the People
Purlie Victorious
Prayer for the French Republic
Costume Design Musical
Cabaret
The Great Gatsby
Spamalot
Once Upon a One More Time
The Wiz
Lighting Design Play
Stereophonic
Prayer for the French Republic
Appropriate
Patriots
Mother Play
Purlie Victorious
Lighting Design Musical
Here Lies Love
Back to the Future
The Outsiders
The Who's Tommy
Cabaret
Sound Design Play
Stereophonic
Patriots
Prayer for the French Republic
Appropriate
Grey House
Sound Design Musical
The Outsiders
Here Lies Love
Back to the Future
The Who's Tommy
Water for Elephants
ChoreographyIllinoise
Cabaret
The Who's Tommy
Hell's Kitchen
Once Upon a One More Time
Orchestrations
Illinoise
Hell's Kitchen
Suffs
Days of Wine and Roses
Cabaret
Videos