2025 Presidency and Entertainment Industry - Page 3

[Call_me_jorge]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 1:10pm

Seb28 said: "Jay Lerner-Z said: "Seb, with respect, you belong in Arkham Asylum."

Thanks for being so respectful.

Anyway, I see you are not quite aware of islam and the situation in Europe yet. What a great and ignorant feeling that must be. Trump will protect your safety and human rights for another 4 years without you even being aware of it."

I’m surprised you haven’t pissed yourself yet with all the Kool-aid you’ve drank.

Updated On: 11/7/24 at 01:10 PM

[carlisle14]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 1:10pm

He was already President for 4 years.  I don't recall much impact his first time around.  

He did sorta rise to popular fame in the USA via starring in an reality show, guest spots in movies, a regular on the Stern radio show, etc. 

[JasonC3]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 1:42pm

carlisle14 said: "He was already President for 4 years. I don't recall much impact his first time around."

He knows better how to push and mold the system to his whim and a lot of evidence suggests he will surround himself with people hellbent on doing just that, seeing this as an unparalleled to remake the government and the economy into their preferred form.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 4:28pm

Seb28 said: "Anyway, I see you are not quite aware of islam and the situation in Europe yet. What a great and ignorant feeling that must be."

People who live in glass houses, they say, shouldn't throw stones. 

As it happens, from what you say here, it is you who appears unaware of the "situation," perhaps as a result of the unreliable media you choose to read or listen to. For future reference, fact-checking is a thing and I commend it to your attention. I am guessing that you (assuming you are an actual person and not a propagabot) have not been in Europe in the past ten years or so. Just checking my passport, I have been in the countries you seem to think you are "aware" of 37 times since 2014. I have spent time in the neighborhoods in Paris, Brussels, Antwerp, and Berlin that you seem to think you know something about. Guess what? They are all safer than this country over that period, and the worst of the "situation" here was on the Tangerine Man's watch, not counting the understandable period of the protests relating to middle east war crimes (not particularly taking sides here) and the nefarious activities of buddies (and/or puppet masters) of the aforementioned citrus-hued fascist. But feel free to choose what nonsense you want to buy into without regard to any appended facts.

[Seb28]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 5:05pm

Jay Lerner-Z said: "The Olympics in Paris went well despite being held in such a hellzone, I guess."

My god. Do you have any idea about the security there? The whole of France was basically a military zone. There were numerous threats of islamic attacks and France foiled 3 actual terrorist attacks on the Olympics just in time. 

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2024/09/11/paris-2024-france-foiled-3-attack-plots-targeting-olympics-prosecutor-says_6725622_7.html

[binau]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 5:10pm

Seb28, with genuine respect because I am probably one of the few people here that do live in Europe and understand the context of the issues you are discussing - the US is a completely different context and the kind of issues you describe are not really relevant there. So it really does make you sound crazy in this context because it's just not the same situation. The kind of migration seen in the US and associated issues is not the same as Europe.

There are some growing concerns across many Western European countries about cultural integration because of fundamental differences in values between different cultures and it can be frustrating that the political/cultural context has up until recently not allowed people to talk about it, especially the people who are meant to be supporting sexual minority rights, women's rights, freedom of religion, freedom of expression - which has unfortunately created a vacuum of opportunistic extreme right-wing parties to fill the void. 

Ultimately, I'm still MUCH more concerned of my safety in the context of US gun culture than I am in Europe (and I'm quite sure the statistics would show that to be an objective reality not irrational). 

That doesn't mean the issues you raise aren't problems but come on you have to have a bit of perspective. How many mass shootings were there in the US this year vs violent attacks from some of the extreme ideologies you are referring to across all of Europe? 
. 

[Seb28]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 5:44pm

HogansHero said: "I am guessing that you have not been in Europe in the past ten years or so."

Wrong guess, I spend half of my time there. It really went downhill after 2020. The things happening in the streets on a daily basis are unimaginable. But also in city councils and politics. The mayor of London demands Arabic language lessons in all schools. In the UK, Germany, Netherlands and France the national flag is forbidden in many cities, on stations there are billboards with a white man and a muslim man, both holding a sandwich with the text "Eat only Halal, so you can have lunch together", gay people who walk hand in hand ending up in hospital on a daily basis, multiple rapes, plunderings and murders per hour in cities. People praying in bus-lanes, holding up ambulances, showing intimidation and power, an extreme rise of islamic primary schools, where children learn that Jews and homosexuals must be killed, children have to search on the internet for photo's of European women who are dressed "Haram", those photo's are projected in the classroom and the children need to rate them with a number between 1 and 10 of how much less they are worth than a dog. Ministers who were asking questions about this were threatened, and say they can't do anything about it because of "freedom of religion". There are mandatory Quran lessons on regular primary schools, Christmas is forbidden at all primary schools, the list is endless. Muslims will tell you all of this too, proudly. It is the plan. They are very open about it. In many cities  Muslims are the majority now, morning prayers in the streets are introduced. Of course protests for a little while, followed by "nothing can be done about it, freedom of religion and most votes in city council". People who are having dinner on terraces during Ramadan being attacked for eating. Stickers in residential area's with the urgent question for people to not walk their dogs anymore because this is a muslim area now. Shocking statistics in crime from the national database, the list is endless. Hundreds of thousands migrants from islamic countries arrive every day. Statistics show that by 2050 there will be a muslim majority in most European countries, at this rate. The intention of integrating is fully absent. I see that some people on here are not properly informed yet and I understand that the problem is less severe in the USA, and thankfully will be for another 4 years.

Updated On: 11/7/24 at 05:44 PM

[Seb28]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 5:46pm

Wayman_Wong said: "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEMx0No3imo"

Especially the line "How can I turn my back on democracy" is beautiful.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 5:50pm

For the entertainment industry in general, and the CEO of Warner Bros. Discovery is on the record about this, they expect the second Trump presidency to lead to deregulation. This will make mergers between media conglomerates legally easier; which will result in more mass layoffs in industries like film, TV, and music. 

I'm less sure how theater will be impacted, other than more productions of Julius Caesar where he looks and sounds like Trump.

[Seb28]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 5:55pm

binau said: "the US is a completely different context and the kind of issues you describe are not really relevant there. The kind of migration seen in the US and associated issues is not the same as Europe.

And it can be frustrating that the political/cultural context has up until recently not allowed people to talk about it

Ultimately, I'm still MUCH more concerned of my safety in the context of US gun culture than I am in Europe. How many mass shootings were there in the US this year vs violent attacks from some of the extreme ideologies you are referring to across all of Europe?
."

Thanks Binau!

I guess you are right, people in the USA have no idea about the situation in Europe and have other problems they are focusing on first. I don't spend enough time there to see exactly what they are and are not aware of yet.

The gun/shooting violence is a whole different problem on its own indeed and doesn't make me feel safe either. But many people in Europe, such as Jews and homosexuals nowadays wish they had one to defend themselves.

[Jay Lerner-Z]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 6:02pm

Well then why was Labour swept into power in the UK just recently? Overwhelming majority.

Please just stfu, Seb. With all due respect.

[Seb28]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 6:11pm

Jay Lerner-Z said: "Well then why was Labour swept into power in the UK just recently? Overwhelming majority.

Please just stfu, Seb. With all due respect."

There might be new elections very soon as the country is on the verge of collapsing. The elections were right after the whole covid, Johnson and Truss mess. Are you aware of the whole "political prisoners" situation and two-tier policing under Keir Starmer's government? People being arrested for waving the English flag while Labour members shouting on the streets to "slit people's throats if they are political opponents" are still walking free? A 60 year old man, imprisoned for 2,5 years shouting hurty words to police during a protest while Muslims who attacked and broke the nose of a female officer on the airport are still walking free? 

Updated On: 11/7/24 at 06:11 PM

[JasonC3]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 6:21pm

Seb28 said: "Are you aware of the whole "political prisoners" situation under Keir Starmer's government? People being arrested for waving the English flag while Labour members shouting on the streets to "slit people's throats if they are political opponents" are still walking free?"

Are you aware of how you come across? You spewed an alarmist nonstop 400-word paragraph in response to Hogan. 

In any event America is not Europe and little of what you rant about would ever come to pass here regardless of who is President.

And I just returned from a month in the UK.  Nowhere did I see a country almost on the verge of collapsing ffs.

Updated On: 11/7/24 at 06:21 PM

[Seb28]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 6:25pm

JasonC3 said: "

In any event America is not Europe and little of what you rant about would ever come to pass here regardless of who is President.

."

That is what I thought and have always said about Europe too. 

Do what you want with the facts I explained.

[Kad]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 6:48pm

Too bad you didn't offer any facts.

[Seb28]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 7:03pm

Kad said: "Too bad you didn't offer any facts."

This is too dumb for words.

Educate yourself and we will discuss each and every point I made. You are welcome to reality.

[HogansHero]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 8:05pm

Seb, no one wants to "discuss each and every point" with someone who is simply trafficking in abject bigotry. 

If you reread what you wrote to me, it is mostly about your unhappiness that some parts of the culture are being treated with respect. You also speak of Islam (a religion) in equivalence to terrorism, something I let pass originally but hereby call you out on. Your religious bigotry reflects a parallel far too close to one that should be within the awareness of all but sadly escapes you. 

I am done with you and your ugly ideas. I will leave you however with a little European history lesson from over a half millennium ago. When Spain was ruled by Moors (711-1492), a period known there as the Islamic Golden Age, the abundant Jewish community that shared that soil lived in harmony and peace. It was not until the Christians came to Spain and conquered the Moors that the Jewish communities were persecuted and in 1492, famously, expelled. I say this with no pride, because I am one (some might say was), but it sadly seems that a lot of Christians have a pathetic lack of "awareness" of the religion's problem following the word of Christ. Instead of posting bigoted nonsense at great length, maybe spend a few hours with this Testament thing you may have heard about in passing. 

I hope this thread is nearing its end, so for that purpose I will attempt to return its course to the theatre. The most famous Moor in the theatrical literature, Othello, will occupy the Ethel Barrymore early next year. Try to restrain yourself from deporting Denzel.

[songanddanceman2]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 8:16pm

Seb28 said: "HogansHero said: "I am guessing that you have not been in Europe in the past ten years or so."

Wrong guess, I spend half of my time there. It really went downhill after 2020. The things happening in the streets on a daily basis are unimaginable. But also in city councils and politics. The mayor of London demands Arabic language lessons in all schools. In the UK, Germany, Netherlands and France the national flag is forbidden in many cities, on stations there are billboards with a white man and a muslim man, both holding a sandwich with the text "Eat only Halal, so you can have lunch together", gay people who walk hand in hand ending up in hospital on a daily basis, multiple rapes, plunderings and murders per hour in cities. People praying in bus-lanes, holding up ambulances, showing intimidation and power, an extreme rise of islamic primary schools, where children learn that Jews and homosexuals must be killed, children have to search on the internet for photo's of European women who are dressed "Haram", those photo's are projected in the classroom and the children need to rate them with a number between 1 and 10 of how much less they are worththan a dog. Ministers who were asking questions about this were threatened, and say they can't do anything about it because of "freedom of religion". There are mandatory Quran lessons on regular primary schools, Christmas is forbidden at all primary schools, the list is endless. Muslims will tell you all of this too, proudly. It is the plan. They are very open about it. In many cities Muslims are the majority now, morning prayers in the streets are introduced. Of course protests for a little while, followed by "nothing can be done about it, freedom of religion and most votes in city council". People who are having dinner on terraces during Ramadan being attacked for eating. Stickers in residential area's with the urgent question for people to not walk their dogs anymore because this is a muslim area now. Shocking statistics in crime from the national database, the list is endless. Hundreds of thousands migrants from islamic countries arrive every day. Statistics show that by 2050 there will be a muslim majority in most European countries, at this rate. The intention of integrating is fully absent. I see that some people on here are not properly informed yet and I understand that the problem is less severe in the USA, and thankfully will be for another 4 years."

Lol what is this craziness? I live in the UK, none of what you said is remotely true and I'm not even sure where you get some it from. We have ALWAYS had a hugely multi cultural mix of people here, yes we have our immigration problems, but nothing even remotely close to say the US. The Stickers in areas about walking dogs is bat s**t crazy, I think this comes from one ridiculous tiny incident and got turned in to a huge thing, much like all these non stop knife crimes we supposdly have (we don't, yes it's on the rise on London, but again, compared to any major US city its tiny, as is murder). The mandatory Quran reading in every UK primary school is also not remotely true, and the people on our councils around the UK are made up of what the UK looks like (and are mainly white still). Christmas is not forbidden (Isanity that has come from America) so that's another ridiculous lie.

Seriously, step away from the crazy propaganda.

[Seb28]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 8:19pm

That's where you make a mistake, Islam is not a religion. It is an ideology. With a goal. My examples are about terror in all layers of their implementation. From primary schools to city councils.

"Moderate Islam" and "radical islam" doesn't exist. These terms skirt around the issue, the fact that Islam itself doesn't tolerate us. Using these terms suggests that there is another Islam, one that allows us to coexist. There isn't.

I know about the history of Islam and the current terror version is indeed quite recent. And based on early Christianity before the enlightenment and the new testament.

Thanks for your input and let's discuss theatre again.

Updated On: 11/7/24 at 08:19 PM

[Seb28]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 8:27pm

songanddanceman2 said: "Lol what is this craziness?."

You might live in a bubble. You are not aware of the hourly rapes in London and the background of the perpetrators? The statistics? The calculations for 2050? The rise of islamic primary schools? Everything I mentioned about the dog signs and no christmas stuff allowed in schools has even been on the mainstream news.

 

[songanddanceman2]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 9:18pm

Seb28 said: "songanddanceman2 said: "Lol what is this craziness?."

You might live in a bubble. You are not aware of the hourly rapes in London and the background of the perpetrators? The statistics? The calculations for 2050? The rise of islamic primary schools? Everything I mentioned about the dog signs and no christmas stuff allowed in schools has even been on the mainstream news.

"

Lol yes, I must live in a bubble because you obviously know way more about my own country than me. And I've lived in various parts of the UK from Yorkshire to London, Manchester to Devon, I'm very informed thanks, I don't get my info from stupid right wing (or left wing) media, I get facts.

If you want to be part of the crazy 'everyone who is not white is bad' crowd, go for it, but don't spread stupid lies about other countries. 

[Owen22]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 10:30pm

Ensemble1671017357 said: "Voter said: "As we collect out thoughts of what happened in the past 24 hours, I want to know what will happen to the entertainment industry if our government goes from democracy to fascism?

(Let’s be respectful please in our responses. I just want to know what might happen)"

Remember when Trump was the 45th President and Shakespeare in the Park performed Julius Caesar with Caesar as Trump, stabbing him to death at the end?

Remind me - who was arrested over that? Who went to jail? Who lost their jobs? What organizations lost their funding? Who was de-platformed? Who was censored?

Bonus question: What administration mandated the population take an experimental drug or lose their jobs?

Asking for a friend."

Oh. Well...wow! You just lost any moral authority you had over in the Lewis/Lupone racism thread. 

[CreatureKitchen]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 11:22pm

I think they lost that when they said Dear Evan Hansen is “the definition of white supremacy”. 

[Jonathan Cohen]

Posted: 11/7/24 at 11:42pm

Seb28 said: "That's where you make a mistake, Islam is not a religion. It is an ideology. 

Thanks for your input and let's discuss theatre again."

There are over 2.04 billion Muslims and Islam is the world's second largest religion. To suggest Islam isn't a religion is the equivalent of claiming the earth is flat. It's a statement that's demonstrably not true. 

If you genuinely want to get back to talking about theater, be the change you want to see.  

[Seb28]

Posted: 11/8/24 at 6:21am

Jonathan Cohen said: "Islam is the world's second largest religion. To suggest Islam isn't a religion is the equivalent of claiming the earth is flat. It's a statement that's demonstrably not true."

What I mean by that is that it is not just a religion. Of course it is called "religion" but it is much more. It is an ideology. With a goal. Completely incomparable with other religions that are just religions. There has been no enlightenment whatsoever and no other religion strives for world control in this way.

For example, about the situation in Europe, islam says that all Jews per definition must die. That is the cause of the whole Palestine Israel situation. It has been for centuries. Yesterday in Amsterdam there was a gigantic pogrom. Israeli and Jewish people were attacked, many are still missing, thrown in the canals, stabbed, islamic groups (organized) asked for their passports and attacked accordingly. Israel had to send rescue planes to the Netherlands to save the people. The government is afraid of islam and doesn't know what to do and the mayor of Amsterdam is behind islam and helps organizing this pogroms. She did the same thing a month ago during the October 7th memorial service, which ended in violence as she invited islamic groups.

This is more than just a religion.

 

Updated On: 11/8/24 at 06:21 AM