I would have said apartments, but wouldn’t it be odd to have an apartment building in Times Square? Regardless, the city needs to side with Broadway, and shut this down. The company who built the hotel and raised the Palace, they could have done all of that with this property, and left the Palace alone.
Broadway is not uniformly against this. The League is against it, but AEA is not, for instance.
Well it’s members are against it. Maybe the league can get the nypd to come out against the casino.
Stop bumping old threads. If there was notable development on any of this stuff, it would be news.
Things are ratcheting up in the casino war. The alliance of theatrical stage employees comes out against the casino. How on earth did actors equity get on board with this?
https://nypost.com/2024/07/25/us-news/theater-workers-union-opposes-casino-bid-for-times-square/
They say they’ll spend 250 million bucks in neighborhood investment to support Times Square and Hell’s Kitchen communities if they win the license.
https://www.amny.com/news/times-square-casino-developers-neighborhood-plan/#:~:text=The%20team%20behind%20the%20Caesars,in%20an%20exclusive%20interview%20Tuesday.
Broadway Flash said: "Things are ratcheting up in the casino war. The alliance of theatrical stage employees comes out against the casino. How on earth did actors equity get on board with this?"
AEA and AFM are both in support of the casino. Probably because the casino said they would hire AEA performers and AFM musicians.
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itsjustmejonhotmailcom said: "Broadway Flash said: "Things are ratcheting up in the casino war. The alliance of theatrical stage employees comes out against the casino. How on earth did actors equity get on board with this?"
AEA and AFM are both in support of the casino. Probably because the casino said they would hire AEA performers and AFM musicians."
Well, maybe they will hire them indeed, but I still think that there are other places where you can build a casino.
Times Square is one of the most popular and crowded places, so I'm not surprised that it was chosen. A lot of tourists visit it every day, and it's for sure it will be very profitable to have a casino there. But I think it will be very crowded and noisy, and not everyone likes it. I play casino games from time to time, but I play them online. I can recommend one site where I usually play, and you can See everything that is offered there yourself. The games you can play, or the bonuses you can get. And there I can find everything I like. The experience is great, and there is no need to go somewhere to play. I can just stay at home and enjoy.
Why has this thread become a magnet for bot accounts?
Kad said: "Why has this thread become a magnet for bot accounts?"
Seems like these bots are specifically sharing some link to an online gambling site? I’m assuming “casino” is a key word they’re programmed to look for?
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Not in Times Square. Hudson Yards or Coney possibly. By the way, are we talking about real casinos or faux casinos (Resorts World, etc.)
Actors equity (and AFM) continuing to be the problem child in the theatre community, https://playbill.com/article/actors-equity-association-joins-rally-supporting-development-of-times-square-casino?fbclid=IwY2xjawLPlKlleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETE3bVNTanA2SHJkMEVFRzd4AR7oByWNAITpvXQDxvZQSBOYPMikE3rtlaN5iwkXzxnPelvnjKtP8r9jc7mVkw_aem_yhbU-xRe2MHLRrShFQzp7w
AEA supporting this continues to shock me. I really don't understand it.
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If AEA thinks that the casinos will put on "Vegas quality" live shows and pay anywhere near Broadway AEA rates -- they're out of their friggin' minds!
Maybe they're hopeful that the casinos will hire lots of unemployed AEA actors as drink servers and wait staff??
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Kad said: "AEA supporting this continues to shock me. I really don't understand it."
I’m an AEA member and support this. As others have said (including myself a long time ago), increased traffic will bring more potential audience members. It also would give existing audience members and theatre professionals an indoor activity to do before/between/after shows
I’m curious about the difference in support for this between the unions. The IATSE locals are opposed to it, would they not also find the same benefits AFM and AEA see in it?
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Wynn already dropped their plans for Hudson Yards due to community opposition (they would be in court for years). I imagine any other Manhattan location would face the same fate. The favorites right now are the two existing casinos in Yonkers and Jamaica, and a new one next to Citi Field.
Broadway Legend Joined: 3/23/17
bwaylvsong1 said: "Kad said: "AEA supporting this continues to shock me. I really don't understand it."
I’m an AEA member and support this. As others have said (including myself a long time ago), increased traffic will bring more potential audience members. It also would give existing audience members and theatre professionals an indoor activity to do before/between/after shows"
With due respect, I don’t think you’ve ever been to a casino (or a casino town like AC or Vegas). People come to gamble — not to gamble and sightsee. People also don’t “pop in” to casinos for a half hour — they pop in for 10-12 hours (or until their cash is gone and their cards are maxed out , whichever comes first). There won’t be much “cross pollination” going on.
And that has been reliably proven over and over. Casinos benefit from keeping patrons on their property. And there’s no shortage of activities, indoor or otherwise, in NYC for everybody. The idea that there is a huge population of tourists who wish to stay solely in Times Square, going from the slots to a matinee to the slots to an evening show back to the slots is silly. Times Square is buttressed by nightlife to the west, museums to the east, Central Park to the north, historical sites to the south, and shopping in every direction.
Casinos just prey on people, they don't give any actual value to the community that its in. And trying to tie an illusive $5M to an LGBT health center in the city (which is a paltry sum in this city) is just a gross attempt to pander.
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JSquared2 said: "bwaylvsong1 said: "Kad said: "AEA supporting this continues to shock me. I really don't understand it."
I’m an AEA member and support this. As others have said (including myself a long time ago), increased traffic will bring more potential audience members. It also would give existing audience members and theatre professionals an indoor activity to do before/between/after shows"
With due respect, I don’t think you’ve ever been to a casino (or a casino town like AC or Vegas). People come to gamble — not to gamble and sightsee. People also don’t “pop in” to casinos for a half hour — they pop in for 10-12 hours (or until their cash is gone and theircards are maxed out , whichever comes first). There won’t be much “cross pollination” going on."
With due respect, you don’t know me or my experience at all- I’ve spent a significant amount of time in and around casinos (AC, Vegas, cruise ships, and recently Resorts World where I have Silver Card status). You’re not wrong about the behavior of many gamblers, but that doesn’t apply to all or even most. I vacationed almost every summer as a child in Vegas and before I fell in love with theatre, it was actually my dream to build casino hotels. I used to go to AC once a month or so… and this was all before I was old enough to gamble. What do you think I did?
Anyway, I’m clearly biased since I love both theatre and casinos so this would be ideal for me lol… but I think a lot of you are underestimating the other interests of people who enjoy gambling.
People literally would not come to NYC for a Casino. Like... you can just go to Atlantic City for that. NYC is already the most visited city in the country, what are we gaining with a casino jammed into a building that doesnt even allow for the excess that a Casino is known for?
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