The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince
It's going to be the Barrymore. If you look at the seating chart on Telecharge, although it doesn't show you the seating map you can find that the orchestra ends at row Q, and that it's in a two level theatre (which rules out the Belasco and Longacre). It also has a center, left, and right mezzanine (rules out the Imperial because it has that 4 section mezzanine).
So Paradise Square is closing this summer if that is the case.
The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince
nophibbing said: "It's going to be the Barrymore. If you look at the seating chart on Telecharge, although it doesn't show you the seating map you can find that the orchestra ends at row Q, and that it's in a two level theatre (which rules out the Belasco and Longacre). It also has a center, left, and right mezzanine (rules out the Imperial because it has that 4 section mezzanine)."
I wouldn't go 100% by the seating chart. Shubert has a habit of using a false seating chart initially to keep the theatre a secret and then change it once they officially announce.
EmmaCifront said: "nophibbing said: "It's going to be the Barrymore. If you look at the seating chart on Telecharge, although it doesn't show you the seating map you can find that the orchestra ends at row Q, and that it's in a two level theatre (which rules out the Belasco and Longacre). It also has a center, left, and right mezzanine (rules out the Imperial because it has that 4 section mezzanine)."
I wouldn't go 100% by the seating chart. Shubert has a habit of using a false seating chart initially to keep the theatre a secret and then change it once they officially announce."
They don't have a habit of doing that. In recent memory, the only time they've done it was for The Music Man. Everyone could tell it was the Winter Garden anyway, and they were just waiting to announce Beetlejuice's closing. In this case, I think it's pretty clear that it's the Barrymore, and they're waiting for Paradise Square.
PeterC6482 said: "Seating chart doesn't match the Barrymore. The mezzanine is tiny. Perhaps it's the Golden?"
They're just not selling the rear mezzanine. It precisely matches the front mezzanine of the Barrymore, and it's not even close to matching the Golden, which only has 2 sections.
PeterC6482 said: "Agreed ... correct! What if Paradise square just never closes and wants to stay for months, money be damned?"
The Shuberts will invoke a stop-clause if Garth & whoever is paying for the losses won't close it on their own. I imagine it's been in stop-clause territory for every playing week on Broadway.
PeterC6482 said: "Shubert must have invoked the stop clause already."
The stop clause is a legal term and it's rarely ACTUALLY used. "It's time to close" is usually a conversation between the landlord (Bob Wankel in this case) and the producer, with the landlord basically saying "you need to play your final performance by X date and announce by X date, because we have another tenant coming in." And it doesn't need to be as dire as stop-clause territory to do that.
A threat of "we will use the stop clause if needed" is enough for most producers to post closing, but it usually doesn't have to get that extreme. More often than not, the producer and landlord are on the same page. Producers don't want to piss off the landlord –– and they also don't want to bleed money. Beetlejuice and Side Show were unique situations because high-profile shows were booked.
In this biz, a LOT of business is done by handshakes, phonecalls, and lunches at Orso.
barneyschreibercpa2 said: "I’m guessing it’s the longacre, I don’t think this will play the Barrymore, and the seating chart may just be temporary"
I disagree. You pick your seat when you purchase tickets and the mezzanine goes through row E. The Longacre mezz is through J and I don't foresee them eliminating mezzanine rows F-J AND the entire balcony.
Also the accessible seating locations match the Barrymore which is more of a give away.
Lol at all the people saying with such certainty that this isn't going to the Barrymore.
There's exactly zero reason for them to be selling tickets without mentioning the building name if it were the Golden or Longacre as those currently have limited engagements with closing dates already.
It's going to the Barrymore, they were probably under the assumption Paradise Square would have announced closing already, but they haven't, yet Almost Famous needs to put their tickets on sale now, which is 3 months out from their first performance. They had the Barrymore for Fall 2020 as well.
PeterC6482 said: "why are some orchestra seats missing from the Barrymore seating chart? Was this done to disguise the actual theatre?"
Can either be production kills for the purposes of making room for the physical production, or yes to disguise. When they did this for Music Man before the public knew the Winter Garden would be vacant, I seem to recall they left out the back row at first.
An interesting inside-baseball development: Joey Parnes (and his former employees John Johnson & Sue Wagner who spun off into their own company) appear to be no longer involved as producers, after shepherding it through development alongside Lia Vollack.