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i believe that since she was a minor at the time of the incident that she's still afforded anonymity due to that. just like rape victims are afforded anonymity. although it would be much easier if they published her name so that jimmy the gent's many fans here could dig into her past and do their best show she might have been asking for it and is therefore to blame for the fact that he was willing to have sex with a child.

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Papa and Captain -- here is a portion of an article I found on revealing the identity of rape victims:

Identification of alleged rape victims by media outlets
As a matter of courtesy, most newspapers and broadcast media in the United States do not disclose the name of an alleged rape victim (the complaining witness) during the trial, and if the alleged rapist is convicted, most will continue to not identify the victim. If the case is dropped or the alleged rapist is acquitted, most media will no longer shield the name of the complaining witness. This practice was probably related to laws in some states which made it a crime to publicly reveal the name of the complaining witness in a rape case. When such laws were challenged in court, they were routinely struck down as unconstitutional.

The article goes on to give some case studies where these laws were brought into play.

EDIT -- below is a link to a CNN.com article I found regarding the Kobe Bryant case that discusses Rape Shield laws in more detail than in the wikipedia blurb I referenced above.


http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/10/16/rape.confidential/

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Updated On: 12/7/06 at 03:12 PM

Stephanie, how do you not get that the person in his 30's has more responsibility here than the person who is 15? Is it because he was so good in TALE OF TWO CITIES?

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if you follow the link wikipedia thoughtfully provides for that little entry, enroljas, you'll see results from a study that show why many papers do not identify rape victims:

research regarding coverage of sexual assault victims

various studies indicate that crime victims, especially sexual assault victims, would be more likely to participate in the criminal justice system if the media were more respectful of their privacy. data from the national women's study presented in rape in america: a report to the nation found that 84 percent of rape victims in america do not report the crime to police. the study reported that:

half of rape victims (50 percent) would be "a lot more likely to report" to police if there was a law prohibiting the news media from disclosing their name and address; 16 percent indicated that they would be "somewhat more likely to report" rapes to the police.

almost 9 out of 10 women (86 percent) felt victims would be "less likely" to report rapes if they felt their names would be disclosed by the news media.

an overwhelming majority of women (75 percent), rape victims (78 percent), and rape service agencies (91 percent) favored legislation that would prohibit media disclosure of rape victims' names.3

recent surveys of american newspaper editors have shown that, as a general rule, many do not print the names of rape victims. In 1982, a study found that 68 percent of the editors surveyed believed that names of rape victims should not be printed.4 In 1990, another survey of editors indicated that about 10 percent believed that the rape victims' names should never be printed; 40 percent believed that they should be printed only with the victims' permission; and 44 percent believed that they should be printed only in exceptional cases.5

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Also what 15 year-old do you know that is ready for a sex with a 30-year-old?

I was so happy to see Amy Fisher come around and speak out against Joey Buttafuco after her release from prison. If you remember, she fell in "love" with Joey, then plotted and tried to murder his wife Mary Jo. Sure, what she did was evil and wrong, but Amy was a victim here. Joey failed to understand that Amy was still a child and would act like such. Even if their sex was consensual, he crossed a line. If he had just stopped and been an adult, maybe things would be different. Instead, he ruined the lives of his wife, Amy and his family.

Updated On: 12/7/06 at 03:44 PM

Doesn't matter what they do or say. A THIRTY YEAR OLD should know better than a 15 year old.

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i did, enjolras77 (i am always sure that i've f*cked up your name no matter how many times i check it). this part jumped out at me:

according to one expert, until society changes its opinions about rape, victims who take advantage of the media's policy are making a good decision.

"all of the cultural signs haven't changed a whole lot in relation to consent," says myrna raeder, a law professor and former head of the american bar association's criminal justice section. "there is still a lot of blaming of the woman -- that she asked for it, look at her clothing, look at her conduct."

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"and do you KNOW 15 year olds now a days? I've sure heard PLENTY of them say things that would make your hair curl. I believe most teenagers are sexually active by 15, so why not with a 30 year old. Not too surprising to me anymore. I think it's WRONG, but that's how it goes now. My friend is a elementary school teacher and the other day she had to punish some students because they were talking about going to "go ****" in their parents jacuzzi. They are in ELEMENTRY SCHOOL. (Not to say this is how this girl was at that age.) "

Please it's not like this is anything new. Kids were married at 15 not too long ago. In this case we have a LAW. He broke it. She could have begged for it, and it still does not make it legal. When I was 15 I would have done anything to "do it," and I had my share of crushes and fantasies. I can't imagine the impact of them today had they come true.

You know what I always tell my friends when there is an "age" difference in dating? I know there are exceptions to this rule. But younger people need room to grow and mature. I always question the maturity of the elder person. Why would a mature 40 year old want anything to do with a 20 year old? As you get older you see the vast differences in maturity in younger and older people. The problem with kids (17 and under) is that they are not adults. Their parents have complete control and responsibility for them.

This is from a page or so back:

"I don't see why so many people on this thread don't get the SIMPLE concept of ILLEGAL. Illegal is illegal, even if he has the prettiest voice in town. " SERIOUSLY.

What's shocking here- is that if this was a clip of a broadway show or a photograph someone took during curtain call- people would be crazy arguing the legality- calling for this to be struck off the board, and the person who took the shots crucified. But sexual abuse- eh, who cares about legality- the girl must have been a slut is what so many of you seem to be saying.

my goodness, three sensible posts in a row...oh, ok, much as it pains me to do so...4.

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If this story was about someone in ANY other profession, there is no WAY this argument would be taking place.

Guaranteed.

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Stephanietheflamingballofgas:

Please stop. You have dug yourself in so deep at this point that it dosen't matter what you say.


I threw up a little in my mouth after reading your posts.

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let's not bother to read any of the articles where he admits knowing how old she was.

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