Broadway Star Joined: 2/21/11
The difference is those shows had decent advances and higher grosses this has been playing to 40% since it opened.....
Broadway Star Joined: 7/13/04
Gee, massofmen, aren't you the guy who told us that Book Of Mormon could NEVER win best musical because it couldn't tour, and whenever anyone disagreed with you, you acted like they were idiots? Why should we listen to you now?
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/10/04
its true i was def wrong on that one.
but i have been right SOOO many other times. I didn't think a musical that was insanely crass and awesome would win..i def thought the committee would not have voted it in.
Bonnie and clyde doesn't have money to run unless it gets a boost in tix sales ASAP. this will not help it. the show didn't have an advance and its reserve is near gone. Unless somehow all the tourists don't read reviews..i just dont see it lasting at all.i mean you just opened..you get bad reviews and you have 6 days on tdf...
Well, I'm pleased there's a theater world outside NYC, so at least I have somewhere to turn to get my Wildhorn fix. No doubt they'll pick it up, patch it up, translate it, and turn it into yet another overseas success... pity the plane tickets cost so much!
A pair of Broadway tickets to my show of choice is a traditional Christmas present from the family. Bonnie & Clyde was going to be it. Hopefully, it still shall be so!
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/10/04
enough with the highest circulating paper in the country? why? it has 2 million subscribers but somehow you think the NYTIMES is more powerful?
Actually, Blaxx, Brantley was not a fan of Wicked. 'Wicked' does not, alas, speak hopefully for the future of the Broadway musical."
Trust me, I don't think Bonnie & Clyde will be a hit (I'm pretty certain at this point it's going to be a major flop) but it's certainly possible to survive even amidst bad reviews.
Actually, Blaxx, Brantley was not a fan of Wicked. 'Wicked' does not, alas, speak hopefully for the future of the Broadway musical."
In his review, he wrote a love letter to Chenoweth and praised a lot of the design. He never "trashed" Wicked. The closest mixed-to-negative review by the NYT of a recent show that made it, is Mary Poppins (that I can remember). And even that wasn't a full pan. Nowadays, a musical will not survive a NYT pan.
Well.... At least the cast and crew can go home for Christmas...? ((
AP might be the best review of the night. Still Mixed/Positive but overal positive.
http://ca.omg.yahoo.com/news/broadways-bonnie-clyde-murderous-leads-laura-osnes-jeremy-041944763.html
Though I agree with the critics that the show is a bloody bore, I didn't expect such a thrashing.
I feel bruised and tired reading those reviews.
How do people think Wildhorn should retaliate?
Updated On: 12/2/11 at 12:24 AM
"New York Times is Negative, only complementing Osnes for her performance in Anything Goes."
Yeah, but he also says she doesn't have the acting chops to pull off the gritty role here in this show, which I fully agree with although i loved a lot of other things about the show.
oh well. I'm saddened by all of this. wonder what kind of reviews it would have gotten if wildhorn worked under a pseudonym...........
How do people think Wildhorn should retaliate?
Dracula 2?
But Dracula died at the end! Granted, that wasn't a problem for Andrew Lloyd Webber, but still...
But before he died he laid eggs so a baby can hatch.
was pulling for this show as well, but based on these reviews it looks like it'll close by New Year's. I guess the revival of The Best Man will be going into the Schoenfeld.
I think they should totally revamp it and put “Reimagined! New Story! New Songs!” at the top of all their ads like Spider-Man did.
As far as the WSJ is concerned they have completely transformed into a strong and deeply incisive critical outlet for the arts.
Pick up the Friday and Saturday editions and peruse the arts sections and see for yourselves.
Except Teachout who I have never read one review with which I agree.
His opinion is certainly valid, but I find his scope and context to be myopic.
He may be right that this show isn't very good, but to say that one of the most iconic and seminal American movies of all time is forgotten is just downright absurd. And completely wrong. It remains influential in many ways.
The Journal is by far the best paper in circulation. It's a shame that their theater critic remains the one glaring exception to an otherwise superior journalistic staff.
I think Wilddhorn should team up with Dexter
and do to the critics what they do to his shows.
Murder em.
Ben Brantley found hacked to death.
I usually don't like Wildhorn shows but I did like Bonnie
and Clyde a lot.
Found it fascinating with a great catchy score. I think the Bonnie and Clyde team deserved better.
That AP review might just save them--or at least keep them afloat a few months. There are some great pull-quotes in it, and it will be circulated to newspapers around the country.
Ive got a great idea for the final number if they were to close and revamp... At the end of the show they should all sing "Anything Goes" but instead of saying anything goes say Bonnie & Clyde.
I can see it now, Jazz hands and tapping ... Just like everyone wanted all along. Lol
As for Wildhorn's comeback?! A revival of Jekyll & Hyde.
Wildhorn's comeback should be a musical adaptation of the old Vincent Price horror film Theater of Blood. He played an actor who one by one murders the critics who ruined his career.
Broadway Legend Joined: 4/22/04
'Nowadays, a musical will not survive a NYT pan.'
Not true. 'Memphis' survived a NYT pan, won the Tony for Best Musical, and is on its way to reaching 1,000 performances.
And 'Spider-Man' is not only surviving, but thriving, in the wake of a NYT pan, grossing about $2 million a week.
On the other hand, the NYT raved about 'American Idiot' and 'Fela!,' neither of which even reached 500 shows. And Brantley couldn't keep 'Bloody, Bloody Andrew Jackson' running on Broadway for more than 26 previews and 94 performances.
Not everything lives or dies, based on the NYT review.
Following these posts from out of town and having seen the show in San Diego, it seems that these reviews are far more negative than the general buzz I have read in these threads.
I was hoping that the perceived bias that the critics seem to have against Wildhorn would temper their reviews and make them more thoughtful and fair. I was certainly wrong about that.
I hope word of mouth gives this musical a fighting chance.
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