#26
Posted: 3/8/11 at 9:40pm
I would love to see an all black DIARY OF ANNE FRANK,
and I bet it has been done.
and I bet it has been done.
Black Actresses who could play Mama Rose? — Page 2
#27
Posted: 3/8/11 at 9:45pm
Niecy Nash!
"Broadway...I'll lick you yet!"
#28
Posted: 3/8/11 at 10:19pm
Would you cast a black woman as Golda Meir in GOLDA'S BALCONY?
Yes. I can think of several who would be wonderful.
Would you cast a Native American as Lombardi in LOMBARDI?
I don't know one offhand, but I don't see why not.
Would you cast a black girl as Anne in THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK?
GOD, YES! Casting the right black actress as Anne (i.e., a young Audra, a young Anika Noni Rose) would make a very simple and very beautiful statement about the goodness Anne Frank believed existed in the human heart.
And by the way, I find your questions repugnant.
Yes. I can think of several who would be wonderful.
Would you cast a Native American as Lombardi in LOMBARDI?
I don't know one offhand, but I don't see why not.
Would you cast a black girl as Anne in THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK?
GOD, YES! Casting the right black actress as Anne (i.e., a young Audra, a young Anika Noni Rose) would make a very simple and very beautiful statement about the goodness Anne Frank believed existed in the human heart.
And by the way, I find your questions repugnant.
Updated On: 3/8/11 at 10:19 PM
#29
Posted: 3/8/11 at 10:42pm
What's the lady who accepted the Oscar for Brando up to? She'd be wonderful in Lombardi. :)
And good for you Joey, like, like, and like.
And good for you Joey, like, like, and like.
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#30
Posted: 3/8/11 at 10:45pm
I love the argument the Rose was a real person when the character in the show was clearly was based on a real person in name only.
#31
Posted: 3/8/11 at 11:00pm
Ok so then my vote is Hugh Jackman as Coalhouse in Ragtime and Donna Murphy as Caroline in Caroline or Change
#32
Posted: 3/8/11 at 11:10pm
Oh Please! Jackman is totally more of a Sarah than a Coalhouse.
"Broadway...I'll lick you yet!"
#33
Posted: 3/8/11 at 11:12pm
^ See. It doesn't really work in reverse. It's considered racist.
#34
Posted: 3/8/11 at 11:19pm
The central conflicts of RAGTIME and CAROLINE, OR CHANGE come from race. Hence, the roles should be played by race specific actors.
The conflicts in the story of GYPSY have NOTHING to do with race. So it is your lack of imagination that is telling you that casting a black actress is "wrong."
The "reverse racism" argument doesn't hold water and your faux "offended" tone is disgusting.
The conflicts in the story of GYPSY have NOTHING to do with race. So it is your lack of imagination that is telling you that casting a black actress is "wrong."
The "reverse racism" argument doesn't hold water and your faux "offended" tone is disgusting.
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. - Eleanor Roosevelt
Updated On: 3/8/11 at 11:19 PM
#35
Posted: 3/8/11 at 11:30pm
Also, a white Coalhouse is in no way the "reverse" of a black Mama Rose.
#36
Posted: 3/9/11 at 12:52am
I'm really surprised that no one has said Phylicia Rashad. She'd be perfection!
#37
Posted: 3/9/11 at 2:15am
"I never had theatre producers run after me. Some people want to make more Broadway shows out of movies. But Elliot and I aren't going to do Batman: The Musical." - Julie Taymor 1999
Updated On: 3/9/11 at 02:15 AM
#40
Posted: 3/9/11 at 6:06am
I would love to see Audra do this but in 20 years at least.
Actually Audra is the perfect age.
Rose Hovick had June & Louise at 20 & 21, thus she would've been in her late 30s during the later part of the show.
I have never understood the idea that one had to be pushing near social security age to play Rose. When was she suppose to have the kids? The IVF years?
Actually Audra is the perfect age.
Rose Hovick had June & Louise at 20 & 21, thus she would've been in her late 30s during the later part of the show.
I have never understood the idea that one had to be pushing near social security age to play Rose. When was she suppose to have the kids? The IVF years?
Updated On: 3/9/11 at 06:06 AM
#41
Posted: 3/9/11 at 8:34am
In a few years, Fantasia.
The applause after her final "Rose's Turn" would last for HOURS.
"YOU CAN DO IT, 'TASIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TAKE your TIME!!" :-P
The applause after her final "Rose's Turn" would last for HOURS.
"YOU CAN DO IT, 'TASIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TAKE your TIME!!" :-P
"I'm seeing the LuPone in Key West later this week. I'm hoping for great vocals and some sort of insane breakdown..." - BenjaminNicholas2
#43
Posted: 3/9/11 at 9:56am
Almira almira almira
just because I think that since Rose was a white Irish woman
that a black woman could not play her does not mean I am not for colored blind casting..Diane Carroll as Norma was a great choice ...but she is a fictional character..
I think it would be just as ridiculous to have, say Fantasia play Fanny Brice or have Sutton Foster play Dorothy Dandridge.
These are based on real people even if they are "fables" about thier lives. Just my opinion.
just because I think that since Rose was a white Irish woman
that a black woman could not play her does not mean I am not for colored blind casting..Diane Carroll as Norma was a great choice ...but she is a fictional character..
I think it would be just as ridiculous to have, say Fantasia play Fanny Brice or have Sutton Foster play Dorothy Dandridge.
These are based on real people even if they are "fables" about thier lives. Just my opinion.
#44
Posted: 3/9/11 at 10:12am
If race is not an important theme in the show, it should not be a factor in casting. That said, most roles identified with black performers are from shows where race is an important element, so the 'reverse' examples provided by many posters don't make sense.
Having said that, I think Audra is just a little too young right now. I think it's easier for a an audience to accept an actress who's a little too you to play the young girls' mother than it is to accept someone who's too young to play against the older Louise. I think Vanessa Williams would be a very interesting choice.
Having said that, I think Audra is just a little too young right now. I think it's easier for a an audience to accept an actress who's a little too you to play the young girls' mother than it is to accept someone who's too young to play against the older Louise. I think Vanessa Williams would be a very interesting choice.
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-- Thomas Jefferson
#45
Posted: 3/9/11 at 10:56am
"I think it would be just as ridiculous to have, say Fantasia play Fanny Brice or have Sutton Foster play Dorothy Dandridge.
These are based on real people even if they are "fables" about thier lives. Just my opinion."
And yet the first suggestions for actresses for the title role in Evita are almost all caucasian actresses (or Lea Salonga). Very few Latina actresses are tossed around in those discussions.
These are based on real people even if they are "fables" about thier lives. Just my opinion."
And yet the first suggestions for actresses for the title role in Evita are almost all caucasian actresses (or Lea Salonga). Very few Latina actresses are tossed around in those discussions.
#46
Posted: 3/9/11 at 11:01am
I have never understood the idea that one had to be pushing near social security age to play Rose. When was she suppose to have the kids? The IVF years?
I always thought that stemmed more from needing an actress with serious chops and stage presence, which typically come with age and experience.
That said, while I personally can't see Audra as Rose, she's one of the few actresses in her age cohort who really has that gravitas when she performs.
I always thought that stemmed more from needing an actress with serious chops and stage presence, which typically come with age and experience.
That said, while I personally can't see Audra as Rose, she's one of the few actresses in her age cohort who really has that gravitas when she performs.
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#47
Posted: 3/9/11 at 11:02am
I opened this thread to post a humorous "outraged" response that NO black actress could play Rose because Rose was WHITE!
But so many of you beat me to it. Bravo.
But so many of you beat me to it. Bravo.
#48
Posted: 3/9/11 at 11:31am
I would say that Lillias White is the best vocally. Although she would add 6 notes for every 1 printed in the score.
I think that Loretta Devine would do an outstanding job of acting it. I'm not sure that she could handle the more difficult parts of the score.
I think that Loretta Devine would do an outstanding job of acting it. I'm not sure that she could handle the more difficult parts of the score.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
#49
Posted: 3/9/11 at 2:29pm
A question for those falling back on the "Rose was a real person" argument.
Herbie is a fictional character. Would you accept a black Herbie alongside a white Rose? Or would you deny a black actor the role because of his skin color too?
Herbie is a fictional character. Would you accept a black Herbie alongside a white Rose? Or would you deny a black actor the role because of his skin color too?
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. - Eleanor Roosevelt
#50
Posted: 3/9/11 at 2:35pm
Also, wasn't the real Rose a lesbian? Shouldn't people object to the show implying she could be romanced by a man, if her "realness" is so important?
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