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#26

Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 6/30/19

Posted: 7/2/19 at 2:26pm

Sauja said: "obviously the demand [for Moulin Rouge] is extraordinary. I didn’t realize how much love there was for the movie!"

Love for the movie may not be the sole motivating factor. I've never even see the movie, but I bought tickets for Moulin Rouge for the same reason I bought tickets for King Kong: I'm just a sucker for high production values.

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#27

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Posted: 7/2/19 at 3:52pm

Again, not saying it's closing tomorrow but Oklahoma doesn't seem to be a 100% sell-out hit despite winning the Tony (not that we are ever sure if that particular award means much). Also received an email with a discount offer.

Give me claws and a hunch, just away from this bunch.

#28

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Posted: 7/2/19 at 4:01pm

qolbinau said: "Again, not saying it's closing tomorrow but Oklahoma doesn't seem to be a 100% sell-out hit despite winning the Tony (not that we are ever sure if that particular award means much). Also received an email with a discount offer."

What was the discount offer?

#29

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Posted: 7/2/19 at 4:02pm

"I hope your Fanny is bigger than my Peter." Mary Martin to Ezio Pinza opening night of Fanny.

#30

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Posted: 7/2/19 at 4:05pm

Miles2Go2 said: "qolbinau said: "Again, not saying it's closing tomorrow but Oklahoma doesn't seem to be a 100% sell-out hit despite winning the Tony (not that we are ever sure if that particular award means much). Also received an email with a discount offer."

What was the discount offer?"

OKEBX227 not sure of the details

Give me claws and a hunch, just away from this bunch.

#31

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Posted: 7/2/19 at 4:36pm

qolbinau said: "Miles2Go2 said: "qolbinau said: "Again, not saying it's closing tomorrow but Oklahoma doesn't seem to be a 100% sell-out hit despite winning the Tony (not that we are ever sure if that particular award means much). Also received an email with a discount offer."

What was the discount offer?"

OKEBX227not sure of the details"

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#32

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Posted: 7/2/19 at 5:51pm

What happened to the post speculating Frankie and Johnny was closing this weekend? Please don't tell me the mods deleted it and we can't even speculate here anymore...

#33

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Posted: 7/2/19 at 6:30pm

There are at least 3 posts in this thread with negative speculation about F&J. I don't know if there was another one or what it said so I can't speculate about the speculation. Perhaps the information became wrong and they asked for a take down?

#34

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Posted: 7/2/19 at 6:49pm

HogansHero said: "There are at least 3 posts in this thread with negative speculation about F&J. I don't know if there was another one or what it said so I can't speculate about the speculation. Perhaps the information became wrong and they asked for a take down?"

AntV was referring to an entire thread speculating that the show could be closing as early as this weekend. The thread seems to have been deleted.

#35

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Posted: 7/2/19 at 7:10pm

Lot666 said: "Sauja said: "obviously the demand [for Moulin Rouge] is extraordinary. I didn’t realize how much love there was for the movie!"

Love for the movie may not be the sole motivating factor. I've nevereven see the movie, but I bought tickets for Moulin Rouge for the same reason I bought tickets forKing Kong: I'm just a sucker for highproduction values."

I bought my Boston tryout 2nd preview ticket based on being a fan of the leads (Tveit, Olivo, and Burstein) and in spite of the fact I didn't like the movie, plus the prospect of Catherine Zuber going all-out on costume decadence. I was not disappointed either time I went either!

#36

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Posted: 7/2/19 at 7:55pm

I don't follow grosses regularly, so what surprised me looking at these is how Book of Mormon has fallen from the years and years of being at 100% capacity. Maybe the constant touring ( does it still have 2 tour casts out?) has bitten into the tourist trade? Of course Lion King & Wicked still do well even with their shows on constant tour.

Also, surprised by how relatively short a time it has taken for Mean Girls to fall below 100% capacity.

All this negative talk about Tootsie has me worried, as I paid full price to see it in December on my x-mas trip. I figured there are usually never discounts that week. I also bought a ticket for Lion King for the Dec 24th matinee when Disney put up the new block of tickets on sale. Now that Beetlejuice has extended ticket sales, there are currently only 3 B-way shows with x-mas eve matinees for sale: Lion King, Beetlejuice, & Aladdin. If they stay open until then, at least for one day they should do well.

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#37

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Posted: 7/2/19 at 8:25pm

Sorry, isn't BOM at 103% capacity?? That's not really a fall to me. Mean Girls was also at 99.9%, so I feel like your standards for a fall in capacity are fairly high.

#38

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Posted: 7/2/19 at 9:12pm

inception said: "I don't follow grosses regularly, so what surprised me looking at these is how Book of Mormon has fallen from the years and years of being at 100% capacity. Maybe the constant touring ( does it still have 2 tour casts out?) has bitten into the tourist trade? Of course Lion King & Wicked still dowell even with theirshowson constant tour."

The Book of Mormon has literally had two weeks in its entire run (the first two weeks of previews) where it had less than 100% of seats sold. Now, if you're talking the percentage of gross potential, yes, that has fallen somewhat, but even still their lowest week outside of previews is still above 80%. Yes, there are now a some discounts available here and there, and you no longer need to book tickets for that show months in advance, but it's still doing absolutely incredible business that any new show would be dying to do, let alone for a show that is now almost 8 and a half years into its run.

#39

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Posted: 7/2/19 at 9:33pm

Yeah I guess I was looking at potential %, & not seating capacity. Both BOM & Mean Girls are at about 100% capacity. I guess just selling not as many premium priced seats.

Also, re my last post, I forgot that Hadestown also has a show X-mas eve, but ehen I looked at beginning of June ticketmaster said those tickets were not available - not sure if that meant sold out, or ticket sales on hold until thry could raise prices. I bought for an evening that week no problem.

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#40

Broadway Grosses: Week Ending 6/30/19

Posted: 7/2/19 at 10:05pm

AntV said: "What happened to the post speculating Frankie and Johnny was closing this weekend? Please don't tell me the mods deleted it and we can't even speculate here anymore..."

One of these days, they won't include the grosses for certain shows, since it will count as saying something negative.

#41

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Posted: 7/3/19 at 2:04am

It's early days, but Moulin Rouge! is shaping up to be a smash, the biggest hit musical since Hamilton. It's one of those shows where the anticipation has been building for years, and certainly since the Boston tryout. Based on what I've read, I'm not sure how much I would like it, and the sticker shock/partial view seats/differences with the film might be problems for folks like me, but I don't think those issues will matter at the box office. This musical is an event, a spectacle that people will pay up to see.

I am curious what impact Moulin Rouge! will have on other shows. Hadestown and Ain't Too Proud ought to be fine and the long-running hits will be fine too. But musicals like Tootsie and Beetlejuice seem like they might become more vulnerable with another show around that people feel like they have to see (if they can afford it).

Perhaps I'm overthinking the show's impact. Everyone blamed Hamilton for killing every musical in its wake (except for Waitress), and I was never sure that was right. But a must-see show soaks up attention and dollars. I remember seeing the OBC of Hamilton on my first New York City trip in many years, and saw Shuffle Along the night before. The well-dressed woman sitting next to me at Shuffle Along, unhappy that her husband refused to pay the high Hamilton ticket prices, didn't attempt to hide her jealousy that I was going. It was almost awkward.

#42

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Posted: 7/3/19 at 10:22am

@bear88 I think it's too early to tell whether Moulin Rouge will be the biggest hit musical since Hamilton. A lot of people who loved the movie will certainly watch it and I do think producers of Moulin Rouge were smart to only have a few performances its first week (which was also world pride weekend) and they certainly sold a lot of premium tix! The show's biggest fans obviously spent $$$ to see the show in previews and word of mouth will be great from them. I do think the show will recoup its investment but not sure if it will last as long as Hamilton.

I saw Moulin Rouge in Boston and was underwhelmed (I had high expectations since i loved the movie.) Don't get me wrong I'm glad I watched it but I'm not inching to get another ticket. Perhaps it's because I loved the movie more and can always watch the movie again to get my fix (unlike Hamilton back in 2016 and Dear Evan Hansen back in 2017... both shows I left the theatre astounded wishing I could go back to see it again the next month.)

From what I recall in Boston, sales were great the first month but then saw discounts from todaytix later on. I just went on ticketmaster for this Friday evening for Moulin Rouge and was surprised to see it wasn't sold out (most are premium priced but there were $189/$179 tickets available in rear orchestra and rear mezz, respectively.)

#43

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Posted: 7/3/19 at 3:21pm

Moulin Rouge! won't be Hamilton because it won't get the same level of critical acclaim or break through to popular culture. It's still a movie adaptation and still a jukebox musical (on speed, from what I've read).

I am not predicting how long it will run, other than to guess it won't run for 50 years. And there will be people who are underwhelmed, as you were, or unhappy about the seating problems. And perhaps you're right that it will run out of steam more quickly than I suspect.

But I can easily imagine people returning to the show just for the theatrical spectacle, choreography, and the barrage of familiar pop songs. It also seems like a good draw for tourists. We'll see.

#44

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Posted: 7/3/19 at 3:57pm

bear88 said: "I am not predicting how long it will run, other than to guess it won't run for 50 years."

*slow claps*

#45

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Posted: 7/3/19 at 4:09pm

Beetlejuice is making close to a million and yet people are predicting it will close soon? It had a nice bump after the Tony Awards and its held this week. It's doing fine.

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#46

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Posted: 7/4/19 at 2:32am

songanddanceman2 said: "Beetlejuice is making close to a million and yet people are predicting it will close soon? It had a nice bump after the Tony Awards and its held this week. It's doing fine. "

Agree - definitely not closing this summer - that's for sure - they are still riding the Tony wave.- Theatre was.packed.for the Weds eve performance, ( and the matinee as well, I believe - )

#47

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Posted: 7/4/19 at 11:23pm

If you compare the respective June weekly box office frames across the years for both shows, it would appear that both Beautiful and Waitress are in the most danger of announcing closing notices next. I know that has been predicted for a long time, but when compared to last June, Beautiful’s weekly box office is down about $200,000 compared to most weeks in June (if I’m looking correctly). Waitress’s comparisons look even worse but I suppose they had big office draws (I can’t keep up) cast last June. Of course, Chicago keeps plugging along despite some low box office numbers. Once a show recoups, it’s harder to know what it takes to keep it running in the black.

#48

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Posted: 7/5/19 at 12:27am

"Once a show recoups, it’s harder to know what it takes to keep it running in the black."

If anything, the royalties go up, and recoupment doesn't have any particular effect on the nut. The difference is that post recoupment, investors are playing with house money. When a show is in peril pre-recoupment, the issue becomes whether it is better to cut and run. IOW if a show closes and you get back 20%, that's better than running and getting nada.

#49

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Posted: 7/5/19 at 12:33am

@HogansHero - I always learn something from you. Thanks! Do you think Beautiful and Waitress are in danger? Also, why do the royalties go up after a show recoups? I never knew that!

#50

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Posted: 7/5/19 at 12:44am

yes for both shows, absent some miracle. everyone's royalties are generally reduced (by what's called a royalty pool agreement) when a show is trying to recoup, and then are increased at a certain point post recoupment, typically to a higher level than the original. It's basically everyone's recognition that long term outweighs short term. (i.e., if a show closes, no one makes money.)

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