LizzieCurry said: "Do we have a name (and I don't mean this derisively) for locals who aren't big into theatre but maybe see two or three shows a year? Specifically I'm thinking of some lifelong New Yorkers I used to work with who were big into movies and sports and liked theatre but found the prices a little too outlandish to justify and/or found the ticketing options confusing. Which makes sense if you're not like the vast majority of BWW posters or even lurkers — if you google for tickets, the first resultyou'd get was possibly a scalper. I would love for there to be a push to bring these folks back.
(I do remember one local telling me something along the lines of:the price of a mezz or balcony ticket was not the problem, but finding a legitimate seller or knowing it would be worth the price was the hill to climb.)"
Yeah I call it the TDF crowd. I know some people who will never buy full price but if they see something on TDF they'll pick up a ticket.
Jarethan said: "One of the very successful contributors to the show’s success for me was people playing two roles."
Actually, they are playing two named roles, each of which is a composite of various people. And they also occasionally play one or two other "generic" characters.
Most every big show on Broadway had already stopped having local audiences. There may have been some local bridge and tunnel traffic, but mostly these shows were relying on TOURISTS. That's how they made money to continue.
There will be no tourists for awhile At least 2019 level. Yes, people will still be afraid to travel. But this pandemic has cost individuals and families so much money. So much money. And even with the tremendous discounts the city will offer, New York is still very expensive.
Maybe Hamilton, Lion King and Wicked will reopen if the fall is deemed the point in time to lift restrictions. But that will leave no room for many other big old shows. There will not be enough shared tourist audience to fill any more theatres than those.
But there are millions of locals who will want to see new stuff. That's where producers will put their money, not risking it on stuff everyone here has already seen, possibly a couple of times. Maybe in say, five years, there will be a "revival" of "Come From Away" so these types of shows can finish out a run..."
I'm sorry, I just don't think this is going to be as big a factor as some of you do, concerning this specific show. I absolutely respect your opinion and agree that, yes, you could be right.
A friend of mine that I’m sitting with right now who’s a huge New York theatre goer just said “New York? Why would I want to go to New York until it’s back to the city that I loved. I want that same theatre experience, no mask, packed house, stage door experience “.
It didn’t sound like she would be going for quite some time. Just speaking as a visitor who frequently takes a trip out to the city. I wonder how long it would be till all that returns
Theatrefanboy1 said: "A friend of mine that I’m sitting with right now who’s a huge New York theatre goer just said “New York? Why would I want to go to New York until it’s back to the city that I loved. I want that same theatre experience, no mask, packed house, stage door experience “.
It didn’t sound like she would be going for quite some time. Just speaking as a visitor who frequently takes a trip out to the city. I wonder how long it would be till all that returns"
All things being equal, I think we will likely be wearing masks until there is herd immunity, which will hopefully mean through the end of the year or perhaps for another year, but there will not be Broadway shows without (at least the possibility of) packed houses. There is every indication that covid will be used as a pretext for ending stage dooring permanently, which is a very good thing.
I was just thinking about this and I was wondering did they say anywhere won’t actually have an audience at the taping(s)? I mean, if SNL can have an audience, certainly something like this can have one. I’m not sure if it was mentioned anywhere, but was it for sure Diana didn’t have an audience at their taping?
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“Diana” did not have an audience. And given the new rules here in NYC, I suppose there could hypothetically be a limited audience for this. Curious if they can do that or would want to.
Maybe they could just have friends and family of the cast & crew in? Is 150 the max amount they could have?
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I'm surprised they aren't filming this in Australia. The show is up and running there. They could fly in the the US or whatever cast and have an audience.
Tag said: "I'm surprised they aren't filming this in Australia. The show is up and running there. They could fly in the the US or whatever cast and have an audience."
They can't fly in the U.S. cast due to travel restrictions. And while the current Broadway cast has had a few replacements, the vast majority have been with the show forever and have a more intimate relationship with their characters (not to mention the real life people they play).
Also, the producers were likely approached for filming, as opposed to commissioning the filming themselves (based on conversations I've had with them regarding how Memphis was filmed). That would also likely preclude filming in Australia.
Americans are allowed in Australia for filming, but obvious quarantine protocols must be followed. Australia is seeing a boom in filming they haven’t seen in many years due to how well they handled the pandemic.
Jordan Catalano said: "Americans are allowed in Australia for filming, but obvious quarantine protocols must be followed. Australia is seeing a boom in filming they haven’t seen in many years due to how well they handled the pandemic. "
They can't fly in the U.S. cast due to travel restrictions. And while the current Broadway cast has had a few replacements, the vast majority have been with the show forever and have a more intimate relationship with their characters (not to mention the real life people they play).
Exactly, I want to see the Broadway cast who have been with the show for years, not random unknown actors with barely any attachment to the material.
Sutton Ross said: "They can't fly in the U.S. cast due to travel restrictions. And while the current Broadway cast has had a few replacements, the vast majority have been with the show forever and have a more intimate relationship with their characters (not to mention the real life people they play).
Exactly, I want to see the Broadway cast who have been with the show for years, not random unknown actors with barely any attachment to the material."
I think, also, regardless of COVID-19 restrictions, they'd be unlikely to film any other company. The Broadway production is frequently visited by the real-life counterparts (Beverly Bass holds the record), so even the replacement performers have more input/insight than the international/touring companies.
Fosse76 said: "Jordan Catalano said: "Americans are allowed in Australia for filming, but obvious quarantine protocols must be followed. Australia is seeing a boom in filming they haven’t seen in many years due to how well they handled the pandemic. "
There are ways around it, and as Jordan pointed to, major $ incentives. A few game shows flew their contestants and crews down (ie. Jane Krakowski's Name That Tune) and shot with a full audience. Same idea could be applied here, if they want the audience aspect.
Tag said: "A few game shows flew their contestants and crews down"
This is all beyond moot, as rehearsed above, but aren't they using American Australians as contestants? And where did you get the part about American crews? I can't imagine that would be tolerated but I don't know.
"Same idea could be applied here, if they want the audience aspect."
But they don't have any intention of doing this. They could also send a spaceship full of contestants to the Moon. or Mars.