CAROUSEL (2018) Previews- Page 19

[navnisinger]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 12:57pm

Am I crazy? Or was the "is it possible for a slap to feel like a kiss?" line cut? Because that line is, well, important, but it may not read well because of the #metoo movement.  Help me out here, lol.

[bwayphreak234]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 1:00pm

navnisinger said: "Am I crazy? Or was the "is it possible for a slap to feel like a kiss?" line cut? Because that line is, well,important, but it may not read well because of the #metoo movement. Help me out here, lol."

 

You are not crazy. It was indeed cut.

[Sondheimite]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 1:06pm

navnisinger said: "Am I crazy? Or was the "is it possible for a slap to feel like a kiss?" line cut? Because that line is, well,important, but it may not read well because of the #metoo movement. Help me out here, lol."

It's been cut in the current production.  Apparently the team is running from the material it chose to put on.

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 1:19pm

Sondheimite said: "navnisinger said: "Am I crazy? Or was the "is it possible for a slap to feel like a kiss?" line cut? Because that line is, well,important, but it may not read well because of the #metoo movement. Help me out here, lol."

It's been cut in the current production. Apparently the team is running from the material it chose to put on."

As someone who has never seen Carousel in any iteration, was initially highly intrigued by this production, and now has decided he will likely skip it, I’m wondering if it couldn’t have been possible to keep the line and make it clear through the way the line (and other songs and lines) is delivered that this is the mindset of this abused character rather than a mindset that the production endorses? Just wondering. It just seems that would have been more powerful and insightful than the way the show is staged now since Billy does still hit her. 

[Scarywarhol]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 1:22pm

There are a million possibilities re: contextualizing and deepening this stuff, and it's not as though Rodgers & Hammerstein were waving the flag for domestic violence at the time. This team just wasn't up to even trying.

[LimelightMike]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 1:38pm

Has Nicholas Belton gone on for Billy yet? Curious, especially citing that Joshua's baby is due this month, no?

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 1:54pm

^That'll probably happen the day I have tickets

[LimelightMike]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 2:05pm

^ LOL Oh gosh, when are you going?

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 2:11pm

March 24th.

[kennin]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 3:29pm

After seeing the show on Wednesday night, I watched the Kelli O’Hara/Nathan Gunn version on Amazon Prime last night.  What a difference!!!  Kelli is amazing as Julie, and Nathan really shows a wide range of emotion as Billy.  You can see why Julie falls for Billy.  There is obvious chemistry and as stated already, the lack of chemistry between Jessie and Joshua is so much more evident. Jessie played Carrie in the concert version and her performance was interchangeable with her current Julie.  When watching the concert version, I did miss the dancing and the levity brought by Lindsay Mendez as Carrie.  On a totally unrelated note, I thought Brittany Pollock was too old to be Louise.  I cannot find her exact age, but she was a teenager in braces in the movie, Camp, in 2003.  She has to be close to 30 which does not play well for a 15 year old character.

[ScottyDoesn'tKnow2]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 4:42pm

For those saying people have been glowing about this show on social media and elsewhere....could you provide links to those glowing reviews? To be honest, I'm skeptical of the taste level of general theatre fans and such as I know there are devoted fandoms of all sorts of shows that are quick to post on Twitter and Tumblr and those shows have a varying levels of quality. I mean a lot of crappy movies make tons of money and trend on Twitter too.

[Capeguy]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 5:39pm

bwayphreak234 said: "navnisinger said: "Am I crazy? Or was the "is it possible for a slap to feel like a kiss?" line cut? Because that line is, well,important, but it may not read well because of the #metoo movement. Help me out here, lol."
You are not crazy. It was indeed cut."

I was there Monday. The line is not exactly as it is above but it IS there minus the part about the kiss. There are also many references about his hitting his wife throughout the entire show. Carrie asks Julie to leave him because he hit her. The starkeeper also confronts Billy about his abuse as well as others. Nonetheless, I have many issues with this production which I posted earlier this week -- the lack of chemistry between Billy and Julie, overall direction, sets, etc. etc.

[natashalost]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 5:47pm

LimelightMike said: "Has Nicholas Belton gone on for Billy yet? Curious, especially citing that Joshua's baby is due this month, no?"

He has not gone on, yet.

Though, I do think he will be a great Billy. He's played the role in at least one production previously, one with Jessie Mueller as Carrie at Long Wharf.

Here's a video of him singing If I Loved You: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3a-kSTsCes

Here's an NYT review of his performance as Billy: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/25/nyregion/nyregionspecial2/25musicalct.html

[greenifyme2]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 6:09pm

Going to take my mom to Carousel next Saturday. Should we sit in the Orch or Mezz?

[Wick3]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 7:18pm

Surprised to see Carousel on TKTS at 50% off. Friday night and it's not that bad out.

[kennin]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 9:34pm

greenifyme2 said: "Going to take my mom to Carousel next Saturday. Should we sit in the Orch or Mezz?"

Orchestra of Once on this Island. 

[JBC3]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 9:56pm

Wick3 said: "Surprised to see Carousel on TKTS at 50% off. Friday night and it's not that bad out."

It has been on every day the past week except Wednesday.

https://www.entertainment-link.com/tkts.asp Updated On: 3/9/18 at 09:56 PM

[greenifyme2]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 10:03pm

kennin said: "greenifyme2 said: "Going to take my mom to Carousel next Saturday. Should we sit in the Orch or Mezz?"

Orchestra of Once on this Island."

Hahaha ouch. I’ve seen OOTI twice, I liked it but not dying to see it again. My mom likes things like Miss Saigon. She freaking loved it. I also took her to Bandstand last year and she nearly fell asleep. Maybe she’d like Dolly? But again I’ve seen it twice so I’m good. Any other suggestions? She’s not really interested in “new” Broadway and likes older musicals.

[kennin]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 10:08pm

Dolly would be perfect if you are not too burnt out from seeing it. I saw it 3x and would see it a 4th rather than sit through Carousel again.

[BobbyD3]

Posted: 3/9/18 at 11:41pm

Most expensive nap I have taken in years.

I hate beating a dead horse, but MY GOD.  Three biggest problems:

1)  Thoughtless, risk-free directing.  There wasn't one truly inventive or innovative piece of staging that made sense - outside of the beautiful choreography.

2)  The cast.  Billy/Julie - Although both beautiful individually, together they had no Chemistry.  Nettie disappears.  A completely unlikeable Enoch.  

3)  Dancers who couldn't act.  Jigger and Louise were the biggest offenders...but their scenes were straight out of a high school production.  

[theaterguy11]

Posted: 3/10/18 at 12:03am

Tonight (Friday, March 10) featured "The Highest Judge of All" which was cut out of town during the original Broadway production. Very strange choice to put it back. 

[CATSNYrevival]

Posted: 3/10/18 at 12:16am

"The Highest Judge of All" wasn't cut from the original production as far as I know. It was cut from the National Theatre/Lincoln Center revival.

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 3/10/18 at 1:20am

Having not seen this revival or any other production, I decided to check out the 2013 Lincoln Center New York Philharmonic production on Amazon Prime.

My thoughts a little more than one hour in (just finished Act I):

I agree with others that say that Julie and Billy’s suddenly falling in love as soon as they meet stretches the bounds of believability. Especially since Julie comes across as a fairly strong young woman (I have known women and men who can’t handle being single for long and fall “in love” at the drop of a hat; that doesn’t seem to be Julie though) when they first meet and not prone to be swept off her feet so quickly. However, both O’Hara and Gunn sell the scene and have chemistry. Their “If I Loved You” is beautiful.

Jason Danieley (Enoch Snow) and Jessie Mueller (Carrie Pipperidge) have great chemistry which would suggest that the reported lack of chemistry between Mueller’s Julie and Henry’s Billy in the 2018 revival would tend to point more toward poor direction.

While it is clear that Julie is an abused wife, so far this production makes it clear that while she says the things an abused wife would say, the show does not endorse domestic violence, even covertly.

I may check back in after Act 2.

Updated On: 3/10/18 at 01:20 AM

[brian1973]

Posted: 3/10/18 at 2:19am

WaffleOnWheels said: "Just posted this morning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuWkYugDL_c

40 minutes(!) of press reels from the 1994 production."

Thankyou for that..such wonderful memories came flooding back watching that. A truly sensational production..one that will never be improved upon, THAT CAROUSEL!!!!

[Miles2Go2]

Posted: 3/10/18 at 2:28am

Update: Just finished watching. Really, really enjoyed this. I see now how those lines at the end between Julie and Louise can be problematic, especially the ones delivered by Julie. It’s pretty clear that Louise didn’t feel hurt by Billy because he’s a ghost or angel or whatever. Julie’s reply back to her is more problematic, but O’Hara delivered it heartbreakingly.

I was also pleasantly surprised when Robert Fairchild appeared as the Carnival Boy.

Updated On: 3/10/18 at 02:28 AM