But seriously, can you think of any productions in which (even in stunt casting cases) they've cast a bigger celebrity in a supporting role than in a starring one?
I adore the black band holding on the Phantom's mask. ~ Jenna2
would you consider Joel Grey a bigger star than Cheno and Idina? I would.
When I see the phrase "the ____ estate", I imagine a vast mansion in the country full of monocled men and high-collared women receiving letters about productions across the country and doing spit-takes at whatever they contain.
-Kad
Lest we forget the rotating parade of personalities that graced the stage of the 90s revival of Grease. They hit an all-time low with gymnast Dominique Dawes as Patti Simcox.
NYC_or_Bust, since you have a COLOR PURPLE avatar, a perfect example is when the producers of that show cast Chaka Khan and Be Be Winans as Sofia and Harpo, and an unknown (Zonya Love) in the lead role of Celie.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
Joan Jett and the replacement Crims in the Rocky Horror revival. Stockard Channing in the new Pal Joey.
I consider the Witch to be one of the stars of ITW, the role is pretty meaty and was originated by a Broadway Diva after all.
You're reminding me of people you hear at the movies asking questions every ten seconds, "Who is that? Why is that guy walking down the street? Who's that lady coming up to him? Uh-oh, why did that car go by? Why is it so dark in this theater?" - FindingNamo on strummergirl
"If artists were machines, then I'm just a different kind of machine...I'd probably be a toaster. Actually, I'd be a toaster oven because they're more versatile. And I like making grilled cheese" -Regina Spektor
"That's, like, twelve shows! ...Or seven." -Crazy SA Fangirl
"They say that just being relaxed is the most important thing [in acting]. I take that to another level, I think kinda like yawning and...like being partially asleep onstage is also good, but whatever." - Sherie Rene Scott
Vera is the female lead in PAL JOEY, and in this production at least, Vera has the final bow.
"Winning a Tony this year is like winning Best Attendance in third grade: no one will care but the winner and their mom."
-Kad
"I have also met him in person, and I find him to be quite funny actually. Arrogant and often misinformed, but still funny."
-bjh2114 (on Michael Riedel)
I know most people wouldn't care, but I always felt like (within the Broadway community) that Rebecca Luker was the NAME in Mary Poppins even though she was totally misused in that production.
I adore the black band holding on the Phantom's mask. ~ Jenna2
And yes, I would consider the Witch to be the starring role. DEF the starring FEMALE role.
And lest we forget....Clay Aiken?
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These are DISCUSSION boards, not mutual admiration boards. Discussion only occurs when we are willing to hear what others are thinking, regardless of whether it is alignment to our own thoughts.
"Some people can thrive and bloom living life in a living room, that's perfect for some people of one hundred and five. But I at least gotta try, when I think of all the sights that I gotta see, all the places I gotta play, all the things that I gotta be at"
ITW is really an ensemble show. I think of it as having four more-or-less equal leading roles: the Baker, the Witch, the Baker's Wife, and Cinderella. Depending on the relative strengths of the performers, different characters can seem more dominant in different productions.
The Witch gets the showiest material. The true emotional center of the show is the Baker, but the women tend to excite the audience more.
Given that the Witch gets the last real solo singing, pointing out the moral of the show, it kind of makes sense that she get the last bow, as all the women who played the Witch in the original Broadway production did. The role was expanded when Peters joined the show, and to me it does seem like the star role.
Speaking of roles that were expanded, there's Moon Over Buffalo. The Burnett really couldn't be a supporting one, as originally written, and had to be expanded. But the starring role was supposed to be Bosco's.
The original production of Pal Joey had the star name as Vera. It makes sense to cast it that way. Vera is hardly a subsidiary role. She has two major solos (one of which is the best song in the show) and two big duets. The role is a bit smaller than Joey, but it's pretty big.
Two musicals that perhaps suffered by casting the biggest name in supporting roles were A Tree Grows in Brooklyn and Take Me Along.
Ah, Wilderness! has often been a bit of a problem in this respect because Richard is really the central character, but they usually cast a young actor who may be established but isn't a star in the role. Starting with the original production, Nat has sometimes been cast with the biggest name.
Take Me Along blurred focus still further by casting Gleason as Sid, a showy role but really a supporting one. The role was made larger for Gleason than it surely would have been for someone less famous and dominating, and that probably harmed the show.
Both the original production and the Doyle production of Sweeney Todd cast the biggest name as Mrs. Lovett. Truth is that the role is really equal in size to Sweeney. In fact, it might even be a bit longer. But if Lansbury hadn't been cast to play the role in the original production, that might not have been the case.
It's not unusual for a star to play Malvolio in Twelfth Night, even though Viola, Sir Toby, and Feste all have more lines.
Drew Lachey in Spamalot. Clay Aiken in Spamalot, I don't think he is a lead. Alexa Vega and Diana Digarmo in Hairspray, Penny isn't exactly a lead. Audrey O'Day in Hairspray and Haley Duff in Hairspray Lakisha Jones in The Color Purple
Rosie O'Donnell in pretty much everything she's done on Broadway.
Grease - Rizzo is a supporting character
Seussical - (debateable)
Fiddler on the Roof - (bigger than Harvey)
Encores "No No Nanette" (bigger than Sandy Duncan?)
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How could I have forgotten this one, from one of my favorite musicals:
(the late great) Eartha Kitt as Dolores in Michael John LaChiusa's The Wild Party.
[edit] Granted she had two solos (one being the eleven o'clock number) and the show is more of an ensemble piece, the role was trimmed down from it's original incarnation (but Kitt stayed with it regardless) and Queenie, Burrs and Kate's (maybe Black's) parts are a kinda larger.
You're reminding me of people you hear at the movies asking questions every ten seconds, "Who is that? Why is that guy walking down the street? Who's that lady coming up to him? Uh-oh, why did that car go by? Why is it so dark in this theater?" - FindingNamo on strummergirl
"If artists were machines, then I'm just a different kind of machine...I'd probably be a toaster. Actually, I'd be a toaster oven because they're more versatile. And I like making grilled cheese" -Regina Spektor
"That's, like, twelve shows! ...Or seven." -Crazy SA Fangirl
"They say that just being relaxed is the most important thing [in acting]. I take that to another level, I think kinda like yawning and...like being partially asleep onstage is also good, but whatever." - Sherie Rene Scott
I love using Follies, so I'll throw in Yvonne De Carlo as Carlotta in Follies. She certainly was the only BIG name in the cast, but that's not say the leads weren't known in other circles.
Other Examples: Jacob Young as Lumiere in Beauty and the Beast Meshach Taylor from "Designing Women" played the role too Melanie Brown and Tamyra Gray as Mimi in Rent Frenchie Davis in Rent Jerry Mathers as Wilbur Turnblad in Hairspray Many others
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