Dear Evan Hansen - Cancellation Line/Lottery- Page 51

[TheGirlsNY]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 1:09am

herewegoabc said: "I've seen Garrett as Heidi multiple times, and in my opinion, she plays it extremely close to the way RBJ does (even down to line delivery, etc). It's almost a replica performance. It's very good, but I enjoy seeing unique spins on characters as well. I'd say the main difference between the two is that RBJ plays a little angrier in the second act than Garrett does, but still very similar."

Saw the show tonight and I 100% agree. If I closed my eyes, I'm not sure I'd know the difference, especially when speaking.

[iowaopoly08]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 10:38am

There are a couple $400 row F singles for tonight on telecharge if anyone is interested

[JayElle]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 10:54am

Wick said, " I wonder if box office is now putting some cancellation tickets online to prevent line sitters from getting them?"

I hope so.  Line sitter is buying and scalping seats on the line

[annang]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 11:15am

JayElle said: "Wick said, "I wonder if box office is now putting some cancellation tickets online to prevent line sitters from getting them?"

I hope so. Line sitter is buying and scalping seats on the line"

If they’re selling seats within 500 feet of the theatre for above face, you can call the cops. https://www.dos.ny.gov/licensing/ticketresell/ticket_faq.html

[haterobics]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 11:20am

I don't think they ever hold seats for the cancellation line. If they become available at a certain point, they go online, after that point, they go to the line. They would likely do whatever it takes to not have people queuing up by default...

That said, I would be surprised to see the cops respond to a scalping complaint. If the venue isn't enforcing anything, it's probably just a free-for-all. Plus, it's a pretty hackable system. If you get in line before the line sitter, you can buy a ticket. There used to be security patrolling outside of MSG to prevent scalping, but it was their own staff, not the NYPD. On their list of concerns, it's probably close to pointing out a jaywalker to a cop.

[annang]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 11:23am

haterobics said: "I don't think they ever hold seats for the cancellation line. If they become available at a certain point, they go online, after that point, they go to the line. They would likely do whatever it takes to not have people queuing up by default...

That said, I would be surprised to see the cops respond to a scalping complaint. If the venue isn't enforcing anything, it's probably just a free-for-all. Plus, it's a pretty hackable system. If you get in line before the line sitter, you can buy a ticket. There used to be security patrolling outside of MSG to prevent scalping, but it was their own staff, not the NYPD. On their list of concerns, it's probably close to pointing out a jaywalker to a cop."

I’m not saying the seller would get arrested (nor would I want them to— NYPD is basically a violent street gang). But if people in the line started calling, I bet it would dissuade the buyers, making the scalping business less lucrative. It also might give the box office an incentive to do what Hamilton has done to prevent professional line sitters from scalping. 

 

[BwayCan]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 11:41am

Hi all - strange circumstance just arose.... My friend and I will be in NYC for the weekend and I have two premium tkts (orch ctr) for DEH tomorrow night - Thurs Nov 09 show. But somehow, we also we just managed to win the Hamilton Lottery for tomorrow night! So just throwing it out there....wondering if anyone has two tkts for the Sat night show or Sun matinee (we really want to see Ben, and have other show tkts purchased for Friday night) that they might be willing to consider trading? Depending on where your seats are, we might be willing to consider a straight trade (i.e. no difference in cost) which would mean you could upgrade your seat location for no extra money. If interested, PM me with your seat details and I'll provide you ours, and we'll take it from there! 

[haterobics]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 11:48am

annang said: "But if people in the line started calling, I bet it would dissuade the buyers, making the scalping business less lucrative. It also might give the box office an incentive to do what Hamilton has done to prevent professional line sitters from scalping."

Of it would force them to tell the theater to sort this out or stop having a line... when stage doors get more aggressive, the easier out is to just stop having the actors come out that way, not to come up with a better solution.

[JayElle]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 12:20pm

Annan said, "f they’re selling seats within 500 feet of the theatre for above face, you can call the cops."

LoL     He and girlfriend sit all day.  Seen them there several times. Was 10/25 I got on cancel line at 1pm.  They were second in line.I was #6.  As day progressed, he told folks they were buying 4 tickets and reselling them to cancel line folks for triple the box office price of $200, or $600 each.  At 7:50pm, he got last available seats and was flashing them for sale under the theater's canopy in full view of security!  He got 3 takers.  I figured I waited for nothing.  At 8:03, he asked me if I wanted last one. I said I wouldn't pay extortion prices.  He gave it to me for what cash I had..100 bucks.   I saw show and complained to house manager who told me to write to schubert organization which I did.  

I've even seen the cops standing in front of Hamilton theater completely ignoring the routine scalpel guy. In fact, the Ham security refers people to their routine scalpel guy.  At least Ham made the cancel line folks go right into the theater and not back outside to scalp tickets.  I suggested that to Schubert.  Essentially, the Hansen house manager said he didn't care. Wasn't his problem.  Hansen security said the same.

So yes, I've noticed that some of the recent Hansen seats that have been popping up are the seats that I noticed were given to cancel line folks in the past, like those in G row.  I don't know if that's the box office's intent, but glad that guy couldn't scam off of them.

[JayElle]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 12:32pm

Haterobics said, "I don't think they ever hold seats for the cancellation line."

Inside theater folks in several shows said they hold "house" tickets aside for cast members, celebrities, and the like who need last minute tickets.  They sell those if no claim is made on them close to show time.

The Hansen ticket manager told me they do not resell tickets that the box office sold to someone, yet I saw a guy drop them off once. He said the producer holds tickets for last minute needs of cast or celebs.  Yet the Ham box office told me....albeit 18 months ago....that they would only resell tickets for face value that were bought at the box office and not on ticketmaster.

 Why sell row G to cancel folks for $200 when they can sell on tele charge for double that.  So the so-called "cancel tickets" are not cancellations at all. At least not in Hansen.

[haterobics]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 1:18pm

JayElle said: "Inside theater folks in several shows said they hold "house" tickets aside for cast members,celebrities, and the like who need last minute tickets. They sell those if no claim is made on them close to show time."

Yes, but that is the same thing I said. They don't hold any tickets specifically for the cancellation line.

It is not unusual to put house seats online for regular price, and not premium, though. Waitress does it, which is why there will be one regular priced row in the middle of premium seating a few days to showtime.

[Wick3]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 1:59pm

What you guys are saying makes sense since there have been 4-5 times when zero tickets were sold to the DEH cancellation line (must be heartbreaking especially to those fans who lined up overnight.) 

 

 

 

[CT2NYC]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 2:08pm

If, in fact, the "cancellation" tickets are just unused house seats, I can't imagine there will be many made available to the line through 11/19, especially next week, when RBJ returns.

Updated On: 11/8/17 at 02:08 PM

[chuckydisc]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 2:19pm

annang said: "haterobics said: "I don't think they ever hold seats for the cancellation line. If they become available at a certain point, they go online, after that point, they go to the line. They would likely do whatever it takes to not have people queuing up by default...

That said, I would be surprised to see the cops respond to a scalping complaint. If the venue isn't enforcing anything, it's probably just a free-for-all. Plus, it's a pretty hackable system. If you get in line before the line sitter, you can buy a ticket. There used to be security patrolling outside of MSG to prevent scalping, but it was their own staff, not the NYPD. On their list of concerns, it's probably close to pointing out a jaywalker to a cop."

I’mnot saying the seller would get arrested (nor would I want them to— NYPD is basically aviolent street gang). But if people in the line started calling, I bet it would dissuade the buyers, making the scalping business less lucrative. It also might give the box office an incentive to do what Hamilton has done to prevent professional line sitters from scalping."

Can someone please tell me why SO many people are actively complaining about line-sitters who maybe, at best, take 2-6 tickets out of the "market" and make a few dollars for rent/food/etc while no one hardly ever mentions the 500 tickets that EVERY performance of shows like Dear Evan Hansen, Hamilton, etc. have on StubHub or Ticketmaster Resale which are the brokers who make TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars from re-selling?

 

[iowaopoly08]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 2:22pm

chuckydisc said: "annang said: "haterobics said: "I don't think they ever hold seats for the cancellation line. If they become available at a certain point, they go online, after that point, they go to the line. They would likely do whatever it takes to not have people queuing up by default...

That said, I would be surprised to see the cops respond to a scalping complaint. If the venue isn't enforcing anything, it's probably just a free-for-all. Plus, it's a pretty hackable system. If you get in line before the line sitter, you can buy a ticket. There used to be security patrolling outside of MSG to prevent scalping, but it was their own staff, not the NYPD. On their list of concerns, it's probably close to pointing out a jaywalker to a cop."

I’mnot saying the seller would get arrested (nor would I want them to— NYPD is basically aviolent street gang). But if people in the line started calling, I bet it would dissuade the buyers, making the scalping business less lucrative. It also might give the box office an incentive to do what Hamilton has done to prevent professional line sitters from scalping."

Can someone please tell me why SO many people are actively complaining about line-sitters who maybe, at best, take 2-6 tickets out of the "market" and make a few dollars for rent/food/etc while no one hardly ever mentions the 500 tickets that EVERY performance of shows like Dear Evan Hansen, Hamilton, etc. have on StubHub or Ticketmaster Resale which are the brokers who make TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars from re-selling?

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I can't imagine this going anywhere productive, but I would imagine it is because you can put a human face on a "greedy" linesitter vesus online sellers being nameless and faceless. 

[Danielle49]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 2:25pm

Funny, I always assumed cancellation seats were unused house seats anyway, considering that they're always within the same great seating section. That's not to say there aren't cancellation seats, but there definitely will be a lot less tickets available for those in line this upcoming week - house seats and cancellations alike.

[Wick3]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 2:36pm

chuckydisc said: "
Can someone please tell me why SO many people are actively complaining about line-sitters who maybe, at best, take 2-6 tickets out of the "market" and make a few dollars for rent/food/etc while no one hardly ever mentions the 500 tickets that EVERY performance of shows like Dear Evan Hansen, Hamilton, etc. have on StubHub or Ticketmaster Resale which are the brokers who make TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars from re-selling?"

I think you're confusing line sitters who just line sit for their client (like SOLD) and line sitters who then scalp those same tickets to the people behind them.

Personally for me, I have nothing against line sitters who line sit for a client but I am not a fan of line sitters who then scalp those same tickets to other people. If anything, I wouldn't call those people line sitters since they're not sitting in line for another person; but for themselves as scalpers.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the box office and stubhub have some sort of unofficial deal with each other. After all, both are profiting from each other thanks to people who are ok with buying tickets at over face value. In addition, where did stubhub get those DEH tickets from that they sold as packages recently? Food for thought.

Updated On: 11/8/17 at 02:36 PM

[TheGirlsNY]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 3:19pm

I saw obvious Hamilton scalpers shoe up at the box office with fat envelopes of cash and Starbucks for all of the employees in the ticket windows. You do the math.

[Jackala28]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 3:23pm

Hi all - Fat chance but does anyone have a Saturday 11/18 matinee ticket they want to sell me?  I know it's doubtful as I think Ben Platt's last weekend is sold out, but hopefully we can all keep each other informed if tickets are released again for his last week (which is next week). 

Also, how early should one show up to pick up their will call tickets?

[gcpcs]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 4:05pm

chuckydisc said: "Kathleen Donaway said: "chuckydisc said: "Kathleen Donaway said: "Does anybody have any suggestions for when I should arrive if I want to try the Sunday cancellation line?"

What number in line do you need to be?"

I want to have a spot that would very likely result in a seat. Not sure what number that would be but I'm assuming among the top 5?"

Then I recommend 8:30PM."

 

Hi! Longtime lurker here.

Just to be clear, would that be 8pm on Saturday night? Cause I talked to a couple friends who said that people are lining up on Thursday/Friday for the Sunday performance. I’m up to spending one night on the line so if that’s 8pm on Saturday I’ll absolutely do it. Thanks! 

[haterobics]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 4:18pm

chuckydisc said: "Can someone please tell me why SO many people are actively complaining about line-sitters who maybe, at best, take 2-6 tickets out of the "market" and make a few dollars for rent/food/etc while no one hardly ever mentions the 500 tickets that EVERY performance of shows like Dear Evan Hansen, Hamilton, etc. have on StubHub or Ticketmaster Resale which are the brokers who make TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars from re-selling?"

I think it is mainly from people who are (or plan to eventually be) sitting in line, so if they are investing the time, they are hopeful that there will be the payoff of actually getting a seat. Whereas the seats on StubHub are already in the secondary market, so the cancellation line is one of the last hopes of getting a regular priced ticket.

Beyond that, there is no difference between someone on StubHub and someone sitting in line ahead of you who doesn't plan on attending... 

[haterobics]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 4:19pm

Jackala28 said: "Also, how early should one show up to pick up their will call tickets?"

Whenever you want? I mean, you can pick them up anytime that day, really. Before showtime, I'd get there a half hour early in case the line is long, but not a big issue...

[CT2NYC]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 4:24pm

Jackala28 said: "Also, how early should one show up to pick up their will call tickets?"

As long as the box office is open, you can pick them up as early as you'd like. I already picked up mine for 11/19. If you want to wait until the day of, I'd recommend going an hour or two before showtime, just to avoid any congestion. That way, you can just get into the line for ticket holders when you return to the theatre. If you don't have time to do that, then I agree with haterobics, 30 minutes should be fine.

Updated On: 11/8/17 at 04:24 PM

[Jackala28]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 4:31pm

CT2NYC said: "Jackala28 said: "Also, how early should one show up to pick up their will call tickets?"

As long as the box office is open, you can pick them up as early as you'd like.I already picked up mine for 11/19. If you want to wait until the day of, I'd recommend going an hour or two before showtime, just to avoid any congestion. That way, you can just get into the line for ticket holders when you return to the theatre. If you don't have time to do that, then I agree with haterobics, 30 minutes should be fine."

Thank you CT2NYC...had no idea you can pick up early...that's what I would like to do! This way I can just go straight to the theater and stand in line.  Appreciate your thoughtful answer.  

[akmiller_98]

Posted: 11/8/17 at 5:05pm

When I do will call, I usually just show up 15 minutes before the show starts. The will call line at DEH has always been shorter than the ticket holder line. In fact, usually there is no line at all. You just go to the window and then straight into the theater. You don't have to go back outside and into the ticket holder line. There is still plenty of time to find your seat and use the bathroom.