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Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?

Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?

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Gmerchant123
#1Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 1:30am

Most definitely trying not to discriminate fyi. But do you think Porters replacement will be African American? Or can Lola be played by another race? Strange question. Once again, Trying not to be rude or racist. Just a thought that popped into my head. :)

PlayItAgain
#2Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 1:48am

well, considering the character was black in the movie i'd say its a safe bet its suppose to be played by a black actor on stage.

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Jordan Catalano
#2Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 2:01am

It's based on a real person who was black, so I'm going to say yes.

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bwayphreak234
#3Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 2:37am

This thread is racist.


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#4Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 5:49am

But Lola isn't American. (Just because one is black, doesn't make them an African American.)

And while the STORY doesn't really NEED the character to be black, the above posters are likely very correct that the producers WANT her to be.


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anmiller07
#5Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 6:02am

It probably has to be someone ethnic. In "The Land of Lola," she says "I'm your cocoa butter bitch." I think she's talking about her skin color. But I guess she could have a lot of stretch marks.

Updated On: 10/17/13 at 06:02 AM

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dramamama611
#6Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 6:13am

^ touche. I haven't listened to the music since I left the theater.

(Maybe she could be a tanning addicted gal?)


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Jordan Catalano
#7Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 9:36am

Maybe I should say again that it is a real person who is black so the answer is just simply "yes".

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macnyc
#8Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 10:40am

I don't know that there is a "real" Lola. I don't mean in the movie, I mean in the events that inspired the movie. According to this article, the idea of the factory producing the kinky boots was in response to a phone call from a woman who owned a fetish shop:

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/features/the-real-story-behind-those-kinky-boots-1-881352

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mybigsplash
#9Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 11:01am

Well Billy Elliot was white in the movie and based on a real life white community, but they had all sorts of minority races play him on Broadway. After that I assumed producers can do anything when It comes to casting. Race has no relevance onstage.


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bwayphreak234
#10Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 11:06am

Race has no relevance onstage.

I'm sorry, but I could not disagree more with this statement...


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Mattbrain
#11Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 11:09am

"I'm Black Jesus, I'm Black Mary but this Mary's legs are hairy"

Does that answer your question?


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Jordan Catalano
#12Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 11:11am

"Race has no relevance onstage."

One of the absolute stupidest things ever said here.

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mybigsplash
#13Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 11:36am

I think it should be done in blackface by Laura bell Bundy.


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#14Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/17/13 at 11:51pm

Jordan Catalano said, in response to the comment "Race has no relevance onstage," "One of the absolute stupidest things ever said here."

Jordan, I remember other threads about whether ethnicity (or sex) matters when someone is playing a role. Some folks did express views similar to the one you consider "stupid."

I have a fairly complex view of race on stage. First, it's tough enough for black actors to get good roles without the roles intended for black actors going to white actors. Second, there are roles where race doesn't matter -- does anyone really care whether Elphaba is played by a black or white actor? The key to Elphaba is that she's green. Third, if a role emphasizes ethnicity directly or indirectly, the actor playing the role should appear to be a member of the correct ethnic group; I think Carrie Underwood would look ridiculous playing Evita or Tevye's wife. Similarly, a black actor playing Eliza Doolittle or Henry Higgins would create confusion in the audience's mind because Higgins, as a member of the British upper class is definitely white -- if he weren't white, he couldn't have been upper class. Similarly, if Eliza were black or South Asian Indian, the story wouldn't make sense because at the time it was supposed to take place, perfect speech would NOT have allowed Eliza to move up in British society; she would have been held back by ethnicity and not just speech. Fourth, if a character's motivation would be different if he/she were a different ethnicity, an actor of a different race than the character should probably play the character as the original race. For example, if the Phantom of the Opera were black, his inability to live a happy life and obtain Christine's love could also have been because of racial intolerance, rather than just his face "that earned a mother's fear and loathing." I'd love to ask Robert Guillaume (the only black actor that I know of who has played the role) whether he played him as a black man or a white man -- I think the story comes across differently if the Phantom is viewed as black, and the point that the writers were making gets muddied.

In short, I agree with Jordan that race sometimes matters on stage, but I don't think it always matters by any means.


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bwayphreak234
#15Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/18/13 at 12:57am

One of my theatre professors made the following statement this semester that I found to be interesting...

"There is not such thing as color blind casting."

In other words, it is impossible to make the audience not consider the race of the actor. The race of the actor is part of the character IMO. Race is a defining factor in society, and you can not make the audience blind to it.


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TheatreFan4
#16Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/18/13 at 1:44am

Not that I think they would, but if all that is cementing the race of a character is two lines in a single song then I don't think the case is that strong. Lyrics have changed to fit actor's race, height, or hair color in the past so there is precedent for it.

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Kad
#17Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/18/13 at 1:47am

There's really nothing in Kinky Boots that says that any character has to be any race. Race isn't a theme in the show.


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somethingwicked
#18Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/18/13 at 2:27am

Kad, you are mistaken.

The lyrics of "The Land of Lola" make it explicitly clear that Lola is black multiple times. She literally sings, "That's me, ebony, I am Lola", as well as (like another poster pointed out), "I'm black Jesus, I'm black Mary, but this Mary's legs are hairy".

Not quite sure why this is even up for debate. They couldn't define the character's race within the story any more transparently than spelling it out in her introductory number.


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Updated On: 10/18/13 at 02:27 AM

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TheatreFan4
#19Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/18/13 at 2:33am

And lyrics aren't set in stone. They can be changed. What about the Lola character denotes black? Lola is black because Chiwetel Ejiofor was black.

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#20Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/18/13 at 7:21am

Does Juliet have to be white? Does Big Daddy? Does Annie? Does Nick Fury?


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Updated On: 10/18/13 at 07:21 AM

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ucjrdude902
#21Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/18/13 at 2:49pm

I guess Lola doesn't since apparently Paul Canaan was on last night.

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HeyMrMusic
#22Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/18/13 at 6:02pm

The ol' race debate...oof. This is why shows like Cinderella, Trip to Bountiful, 110 in the Shade, and Billy Elliot win the Extraordinary Excellence in Diversity on Broadway Award from Actors' Equity. Unless explicitly written into the play, the race of an actor shouldn't matter. If race should always be considered, Asian actors would and should only be allowed to be in shows like The King and I and Miss Saigon. Asians are the most underrepresented race on Broadway, and not for lack of talent. Because of lack of roles and producers/audiences with an open mind.

Does Lola need to be black? Because of two easily changeable lines in a song where the lyrics aren't terribly important but are just meant to be sassy? Maybe not.

And Eliza Doolittle was indeed Asian in the recent production in DC.

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larrystyles
#23Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/19/13 at 12:48am

jeez, white people just can't let black people have anything can they?

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JBroadway
#24Does Lola in kinky boots have to be played by an African American actor?
Posted: 10/19/13 at 1:52am

Wait though, if ucjrdude902 is correct and Paul Canaan did go on for Lola last night, doesn't that kind of end this argument right there? If they have a white man covering the role, then the answer is no, Lola doesn't have to be played by a black person. I wonder if they changed the lyrics for him.


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