#77
Posted: 5/14/13 at 4:33pm
I'm sure Erin is so grateful for her husband's profane Internet rant!
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#78
Posted: 5/14/13 at 5:14pm
Look who will be playing Mr. and Mrs Banks at the MUNY.
https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/BWW-Exclusive-Jenny-Powers-and-Rob-McClure-to-Star-in-The-Munys-MARY-POPPINS-20130514
https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/BWW-Exclusive-Jenny-Powers-and-Rob-McClure-to-Star-in-The-Munys-MARY-POPPINS-20130514
#79
Posted: 5/14/13 at 6:17pm
Well said, hyperbole.
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#80
Posted: 5/14/13 at 6:26pm
I do find this particular thread entertaining, but for all that Smash got factually wrong in its two seasons, it's ironic they would choose to use Erin Dilly's name as a way to invoke non-fiction. It's like whichever writer chose to do so, had an ax to grind. It's not as if Thoroughly Modern Millie happened recently. Granted not everyone would know who she is, but I've certainly seen some shows she has been in.
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#81
Posted: 5/14/13 at 6:37pm
And she's working at the Muny this summer in Mary Poppins.
So very stalled.
It's okay, Erin will have the last laugh. She already is.
So very stalled.
It's okay, Erin will have the last laugh. She already is.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#82
Posted: 5/14/13 at 6:49pm
"it's ironic they would choose to use Erin Dilly's name as a way to invoke non-fiction."
True. Two seasons of Smash and I don't remember one Jeremy Piven fish joke. It seems to me like that incident would be wide open for a joke.
True. Two seasons of Smash and I don't remember one Jeremy Piven fish joke. It seems to me like that incident would be wide open for a joke.
If anyone ever tells you that you put too much Parmesan cheese on your pasta, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
#83
Posted: 5/14/13 at 9:27pm
IMHO, Erin has had exactly the career she wants. Much like Jennifer Laura Thompson, she devotes a lot of time to her young family and shows up and kills it on Broadway whenever she wants to.
Unlike many of the characters on Smash (a pool which recently and unfortunately has expanded to include the Tony-obsessed Tom), not everyone in the theater wants fame at the expense of all else. Actually, there are plenty of stage actors who will work for far less money in smaller gigs, just to feel like they're doing good work instead of commercial crap.
Kind of a bummer that "Let Me Be Your Star" was the founding anthem of this show, because many, many theater performers are just as satisfied with quality (hopefully accompanied by a liveable wage) as they are with being known/recognized.
Unlike many of the characters on Smash (a pool which recently and unfortunately has expanded to include the Tony-obsessed Tom), not everyone in the theater wants fame at the expense of all else. Actually, there are plenty of stage actors who will work for far less money in smaller gigs, just to feel like they're doing good work instead of commercial crap.
Kind of a bummer that "Let Me Be Your Star" was the founding anthem of this show, because many, many theater performers are just as satisfied with quality (hopefully accompanied by a liveable wage) as they are with being known/recognized.
#84
Posted: 5/15/13 at 12:58am
To be fair Smash has made unflattering comments about individuals before, and it isn't necessarily a true reflection of that person. For instance in season 1 they referred to Michael Riedel as a "Napoleonic little Nazi" and he...Oh, wait. Never mind
#85
Posted: 5/15/13 at 1:03am
Are we sure the script wasn't mentioning Aaron Dilly? Because if so, this whole thing is moot.
#86
Posted: 5/15/13 at 8:36am
Or Phyllis Diller?
If so, her career is definitely stalled.
If so, her career is definitely stalled.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#87
Posted: 5/15/13 at 8:55am
Erin who?
Still, nice that her hubby has such a wonderful command of the English language that he can be taken seriously!!!!. But perhaps he needed the exposure himself.
Still, nice that her hubby has such a wonderful command of the English language that he can be taken seriously!!!!. But perhaps he needed the exposure himself.
#88
Posted: 5/15/13 at 9:53am
I think this thread is a nice microcosm of BWW as a whole.
"...everyone finally shut up, and the audience could enjoy the beginning of the Anatevka Pogram in peace."
#89
Posted: 5/17/13 at 12:50pm
I think there's an opportunity here...
There have been past examples where actors have been unexpectedly, yet permanently replaced in the past, and the replacement actor has been heralded as "a star" in the role.
* Kristen Vigard was replaced by Andrea McArdle in Annie
* James Carpinello was replaced by Cheyenne Jackson in Xanadu
* Erin Dilly was replaced by Sutton Foster in ...Millie
...but there's never been an "official" word to describe this circumstance.
I propose to add a new word to the Broadway lexicon:
dil*ly (DIL-ee) n. 1. The condition of being replaced by a previously unrecognized chorus member, or understudy, who then achieves great fame in the role. -v. -ied or -ing. To suffer the repercussions of a dilly: I SOOOO got dillied out of that part!
Now that there's a specific term for it, agents could negotiate "dilly clauses" into their clients' contracts. Haggling over a "dilly clause", to a point where negotiations become stalled would be, "dilly-dallying". Excessive "dilly-dallying" might put an actor in a "dilly pickle".
Obviously, "dillying" is not limited to Broadway actors. Television and motion picture artists are also vulnerable to being dillied.
I recently read that Jon Stewart will take a summer leave from The Daily Show so that he can direct Rosewater. In his absence, he will be replaced by Daily Show correspondent, John Oliver.
Might Stewart get "dillied" by Oliver? Could the viewing public take such a shine to Oliver that Stewart might be permanently replaced?
I hope not. That would be a doozey of a dilly.
There have been past examples where actors have been unexpectedly, yet permanently replaced in the past, and the replacement actor has been heralded as "a star" in the role.
* Kristen Vigard was replaced by Andrea McArdle in Annie
* James Carpinello was replaced by Cheyenne Jackson in Xanadu
* Erin Dilly was replaced by Sutton Foster in ...Millie
...but there's never been an "official" word to describe this circumstance.
I propose to add a new word to the Broadway lexicon:
dil*ly (DIL-ee) n. 1. The condition of being replaced by a previously unrecognized chorus member, or understudy, who then achieves great fame in the role. -v. -ied or -ing. To suffer the repercussions of a dilly: I SOOOO got dillied out of that part!
Now that there's a specific term for it, agents could negotiate "dilly clauses" into their clients' contracts. Haggling over a "dilly clause", to a point where negotiations become stalled would be, "dilly-dallying". Excessive "dilly-dallying" might put an actor in a "dilly pickle".
Obviously, "dillying" is not limited to Broadway actors. Television and motion picture artists are also vulnerable to being dillied.
I recently read that Jon Stewart will take a summer leave from The Daily Show so that he can direct Rosewater. In his absence, he will be replaced by Daily Show correspondent, John Oliver.
Might Stewart get "dillied" by Oliver? Could the viewing public take such a shine to Oliver that Stewart might be permanently replaced?
I hope not. That would be a doozey of a dilly.
Updated On: 5/17/13 at 12:50 PM
#90
Posted: 5/20/13 at 12:24am
and let's not forget Lainie Kazan finally getting her Broadway Starring role in Seesaw... only to be replaced by her former room mate Michelle Lee. This leading Lainie to say "Show bizness is a bitch." Lainie was very hurt by that and who wouldn't be? I'm sure that comment was hurtful to Ms. Dilly. The good news is that Lainie still had a good career. So will Erin Dilly.
#91
Posted: 5/20/13 at 12:29am
Wait, what happened with Josie de Guzman?
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#92
Posted: 5/20/13 at 2:04am
Laurents fired her from a supporting part in NICK AND NORA because that's what was wrong with the show.
#93
Posted: 5/20/13 at 10:03am
Oh yes because Laurents ALWAYS knew what was best.
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#95
Posted: 5/20/13 at 10:58am
> "So Clare Leach got dillied by CZJ."
Zeta-Jones created a double-dilly dilemma. According to Wikipedia,
"The career of teenaged Catherine Zeta-Jones, a chorus member in the 1984 West End production, was launched when a vacation and an illness felled both the actress portraying Peggy Sawyer and her understudy on a night one of the producers happened to be in the audience. Zeta-Jones filled in and was impressive enough to be cast permanently in the role shortly afterward."
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42nd_Street_%28musical%29)
The fact that it happened for, of all roles, Peggy Sawyer in 42nd Street makes this a doozey of a double-dilly dalliance.
* Carol Haney's broken ankle dillied Shirley Maclaine to stardom
* Sir Lawrence Olivier's attack of appendicitis dillied Anthony Hopkins onward and upward
* Matthew Morrison dillied into the role of Link Larkin when James Carpinello dropped out to do a film role. James holds the honor of being dillied twice, consecutively on Broadway. His next Broadway show after "Hairspray" was "Xanadu".
Zeta-Jones created a double-dilly dilemma. According to Wikipedia,
"The career of teenaged Catherine Zeta-Jones, a chorus member in the 1984 West End production, was launched when a vacation and an illness felled both the actress portraying Peggy Sawyer and her understudy on a night one of the producers happened to be in the audience. Zeta-Jones filled in and was impressive enough to be cast permanently in the role shortly afterward."
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42nd_Street_%28musical%29)
The fact that it happened for, of all roles, Peggy Sawyer in 42nd Street makes this a doozey of a double-dilly dalliance.
* Carol Haney's broken ankle dillied Shirley Maclaine to stardom
* Sir Lawrence Olivier's attack of appendicitis dillied Anthony Hopkins onward and upward
* Matthew Morrison dillied into the role of Link Larkin when James Carpinello dropped out to do a film role. James holds the honor of being dillied twice, consecutively on Broadway. His next Broadway show after "Hairspray" was "Xanadu".
Updated On: 5/20/13 at 10:58 AM
#97
Posted: 5/20/13 at 11:31am
>> "^Oh My! So much dilliness!! "
It's dill-icious.
It's dill-icious.
Updated On: 5/20/13 at 11:31 AM
#98
Posted: 5/20/13 at 12:02pm
I wonder if any of those other actors were smart enough to know that there was always a chance they might be replaced (the project was, at one point, being developed for Kristin Chenoweth), and negotiate accordingly.
Friends told me at the time that Erin got a buyout clause, so she wouldn't be running off to San Diego for months as a stand-in for a bigger name. Turned out that didn't happen, but I believe the fact that the show opened on Broadway without her triggered that clause. I can't remember how much money she made from that, but I think she got some kind of salary for the first year the show was on Broadway.
Even if that was just Equity minimum, that was a LOT of money. So when she left the show, it was with the knowledge that she would benefit from the production on Broadway, regardless of whether she was in it. I hope she got her agent a nice Christmas present that year!
Friends told me at the time that Erin got a buyout clause, so she wouldn't be running off to San Diego for months as a stand-in for a bigger name. Turned out that didn't happen, but I believe the fact that the show opened on Broadway without her triggered that clause. I can't remember how much money she made from that, but I think she got some kind of salary for the first year the show was on Broadway.
Even if that was just Equity minimum, that was a LOT of money. So when she left the show, it was with the knowledge that she would benefit from the production on Broadway, regardless of whether she was in it. I hope she got her agent a nice Christmas present that year!
#99
Posted: 5/20/13 at 12:09pm
>> "I wonder if any of those other actors were smart enough to know that there was always a chance they might be replaced (the project was, at one point, being developed for Kristin Chenoweth), and negotiate accordingly."
If they did or do, that part of the contract could now be referred to as a "dilly clause".
"Like the pine trees linin' the windin' road" and "the singin' bird and the croakin' toad"... it's got a name.
If they did or do, that part of the contract could now be referred to as a "dilly clause".
"Like the pine trees linin' the windin' road" and "the singin' bird and the croakin' toad"... it's got a name.
#100
Posted: 5/20/13 at 6:11pm
If John Oliver successfully supplants Jon Stuart, shouldn't we consider that a daily dilly?
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