GYPSY Film Happening
rattleNwoolypenguin
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/11/11
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Posted: 2/8/19 at 12:48am
I’m so curious why do people want this?
There are two films of this already.
I just don’t know what a third one is going to add.
The other two proved to me the material is not terribly interesting on film.
The locations are very static. The nature of all the songs feel stagey always.
It’s incredibly long.
I dunno. I just feel like this story has been shown, we have seen it. And the best thing we can do for it is cast more amazing people onstage as they get older and are right for it.
Rose is fun to watch onstage cause it’s one person doing this epic larger than life role over the course of an evening, and Louise is great cause you watch before your eyes the evolution of her.
Movie musicals should exist to bring a new element that makes it a MOVIE. The best movie musicals add something to the equation.
Every moment of Gypsy is in theatres, hotels, restaurants. All of these can be shown and replicated on a stage. The medium of film adds nothing to this story.
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Posted: 2/8/19 at 1:38am
Melissa McCarthy Instagram ~ she thanks Barbra for the lovely email today.
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Posted: 2/8/19 at 2:29am
SweetLips22 said: "About 70%[made that up] of audiences would go 'Oh look, BS is in a musical called Gypsy, love her, never heard of this one but let's go see it', and they would accept whatever was up there on the screen.
A movie musical is not a documentary."
You think there are Barbra Streisand fans who have never heard of GYPSY?
Only in Australia. And only in the Outback where YENTL just came out on videotape.
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Posted: 2/8/19 at 9:46am
rattleNwoolypenguin said: "Every moment of Gypsy is in theatres, hotels, restaurants. All of these can be shown and replicated on a stage. The medium of film adds nothing to this story. "
I agree. It's a great piece for live theater, and it gets revived all the time because of that. We really don't need a movie. I'd get more excited if some of the great names floated here came and did a Broadway production.
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Posted: 2/8/19 at 10:14am
Toni Collette is the best idea I've read in this thread. She's got the vocal and acting chops, and the grittiness to nail the period details, poverty, desperation.
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Posted: 2/8/19 at 10:46am
Auggie27 said: "Toni Collette is the best idea I've read in this thread. She's got the vocal and acting chops, and the grittiness to nail the period details, poverty, desperation."
But she can’t sell tickets. I don’t think she is even a name enough to raise the funds to play the role in a commercial Broadway production. No question she could be great in the part, but I can’t imagine this happening for film.
ScottyDoesn'tKnow2
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/22/14
#81GYPSY Film Happening
Posted: 2/8/19 at 11:11am
QueenAlice said: "Auggie27 said: "Toni Collette is the best idea I've read in this thread. She's got the vocal and acting chops, and the grittiness to nail the period details, poverty, desperation."
But she can’t sell tickets. I don’t think she is even a name enough to raise the funds to play the role in a commercial Broadway production. No question she could be great in the part, but I can’t imagine this happening for film."
And yet, she's still regularly getting film roles. I don't expect Gypsy to be a film production that will have high expectations box office wise but hoping to be a sort of surprise or sleeper hit.
Also, musicals that are set mostly in interior sets CAN still be cinematic. A lot of movies are cinematic without big scopes. As to why do another movie version, I guess people like the idea of the challenge and seeing if they can make a great feature film version of this piece to try to match the great productions we've had on stage, and maybe to memorialize the material on film. Plus, it may introduce new audiences to the material we love so much.
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Posted: 2/8/19 at 11:28amMost of the films Toni Collette stars in are relatively small budget independent films. Even if it’s done on a budget, GYPSY is going to be an expensive project to put on film. I still go back to my original argument that this project hasn’t been resurrected without there being interest from a name “big enough” to mean something to multiplex audiences. It sounds like Melissa McCarthy is the actress that potentially is that someone. And if she can sign it, shed be terrific.
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Posted: 2/8/19 at 2:11pmMcCarthy's instagram suggests to me that she's doing it.
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Posted: 2/8/19 at 11:35pm
GavPS---I am shocked by your comments so I contacted my outback black fella friends by bush telephone and was told that they have never heard of a 'vidoetape'--their only music is a didgeridoo and a wabble board.
Though they did say they heard some very strange sounds once when a pink bus went past their camp site with a whitie on top in a long silver dress with lots of face paint sitting in a shoe.
That sight unfortunately forced them to retreat further into the Nullabor.
I did sing a few bars of 'Daddy can you hear me'----that spooked him so he said he would check on the cave drawings in case some spirit of Yentl had visited from 'the dreaming'.
Re Streisand/Gypsy. I did a brief phone survey[phone numbers at random as we still have phone books in Australia and land lines] and out of 10, yes TEN people surveyed, all knew of BS. 4 had never heard of Gypsy and 6 admitted to owning LPs. Out of those 6, one was a male with a very effeminate voice said 'of course sweetie, LOVE Gypsy that's my fave' and I couldn't get him off the f,ng phone so hung up as he started into Roses Turn. 3 said that they thought they had heard of it [2 said they preferred going to a play as they didn't like musicals because of all that singing]. Another said Yes but never wanted to see it again and the last one said 'why not get Shirley Bassey or Diana Ross, surgery and vaseline are a girls best friend'.
Somehow didn't get the feeling that Streisand and Gypsy was a given.
PS
The effem.voice called me back so we are meeting for a drink to discuss endless possibilities for the film title role--phone numbers at random, you just never know!!!!
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Posted: 2/9/19 at 12:32amI think McCarthy would give us strong Tyne Daly as Rose vibes, and that’s not a bad thing at all.
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Posted: 2/9/19 at 6:12amThis discussion makes me wish they were doing a non musical, more accurate version of this story. Some actresses, McCarthy among them, could tear up Rose if singing wasn’t a requirement
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Posted: 2/9/19 at 9:33am
Yes. Oscar nominee Melissa McCarthy can sing and she did so with Barbra Streisand:
https://youtu.be/98-QT7VRdQE
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Posted: 2/9/19 at 12:58pmThat video’s been in my mind throughout this discussion. It doesn’t really inspire confidence, but that’s just me.
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Posted: 2/9/19 at 3:36pm
So long as it's not Rosie O'Donnell in the role of 'Mama Rose', or Leah Michele as 'Gypsy', I'm fine.
EddieP
Swing Joined: 6/3/18
#91GYPSY Film Happening
Posted: 2/9/19 at 4:42pm
What is wrong with Harvey Fierstein??? Close your eyes...
Some people can get a thrill...
Stanton3
Chorus Member Joined: 1/3/15
#92GYPSY Film Happening
Posted: 2/9/19 at 4:45pm
The problem wasn't with Amy it was Warner Brothers and Melissa.
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