Posted: 6/16/16 at 12:07pm
Timely tweet given the documentary discussion. October on PBS.
https://twitter.com/lin_manuel/status/743474693433364480
Posted: 6/16/16 at 12:14pm
HogansHero said: "the mention of filming backstage cameos supports my idea that this will be used to make the inevitable documentary about the show. a la Broadway Idiot, which has a considerable amount of show excerpts in it.
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It's been announced that the documentary is coming in October.
Posted: 6/16/16 at 12:23pm
Most shows filmed for commercial release include footage from multiple performances. I believe Rent used footage from 3 or 4 live performances as well as some close up shots that were filmed without an audience.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hadn't Brian d'Arcy James already left the show by the time they filmed Shrek and returned for the performances they shot?
Posted: 6/16/16 at 12:39pm
Makes sense to film now and sit on the footage. They can absolutely afford to do that.
Wouldn't it have been amazing to have a DVD of the original cast of RENT, even if it hadn't been released until 12 years later?
I'd rather know it exists and wait a decade or so for a video release of the original cast of a production, rather than hope they'll film the umpteenth group of replacements at the end of a show's run.
Posted: 6/16/16 at 12:42pm
I actually prefer most of the replacements in the live "Rent" recording, but I see what you mean, it would be fantastic to have the OBC on (legal) film. Really hope they bring Jonathan back, but even if they do, two or three ensemble members have already left, so it won't really be the OBC either way.
Posted: 6/16/16 at 12:52pm
2025 would be consistent with ACL in terms of timing, but I think it will be a major motion picture, not a video of a live performance. The latter may be of huge interest here (assuming there is still a here then 
) but there is not a huge public interest in the OBC. There is also a consistency with what happened in Rent possible, though: motion picture and then the live version 3 years later in the year it closed.
Posted: 6/16/16 at 1:03pm
CindersGolightly said: "I actually prefer most of the replacements in the live "Rent" recording, but I see what you mean, it would be fantastic to have the OBC on (legal) film. Really hope they bring Jonathan back, but even if they do, two or three ensemble members have already left, so it won't really be the OBC either way.
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I hope they bring Groff back but he's pretty busy with filming in Pittsburgh. And you're right about the ensemble members who have left. We'll have to wait and see...
Posted: 6/16/16 at 1:04pm
If I had to wager, I would say a film version of HAMILTON (which does seem inevitable) will happen sooner than ten years. I think Hamilton's appeal is that it so feels "of the moment"- - ten years from now the issues may seem less timely, the music dated, etc. I think the producers should hit the Hamilton brand hard over the next five years while the irons (and relevancies) are still blazing; and then movie forward with a major motion picture adaptation.
As for the taping of the show, I think it's fabulous that Lin is smart enough to want to archive this product with the original cast. No doubt it will be released at some point and be yet another lucrative bit of merchandise as well.
Updated On: 6/16/16 at 01:04 PM
Posted: 6/16/16 at 1:06pm
but there is not a huge public interest in the OBC
Au contraire! Lin's final performance and exit has been a news subject for some time and the price points of his final show would indicate a heightened interest in his participation.
Posted: 6/16/16 at 1:30pm
Oh, I do hope they can bring back Groff for this. I missed him last time - Andrew was wonderful and I wasn't worried because I knew I was seeing it again in June, but now June is here and Jon is gone. To have him preserved on film with the OCB would be icing on the cake. And all the others too - really missed Betsy on the Tony performances. I think I'd squeal hard if they were filming the night I go.
Posted: 6/16/16 at 1:32pm
Mister Matt said: "but there is not a huge public interest in the OBC
Au contraire! Lin's final performance and exit has been a news subject for some time and the price points of his final show would indicate a heightened interest in his participation. "
Note what I said ("not a huge public interest"
and what you said ("a heightened interest". 20 million people are not going to see the film for LMM, even less so in 5 + years, but they might for some star.
Posted: 6/16/16 at 1:33pm
QueenAlice said: "If I had to wager, I would say a film version of HAMILTON (which does seem inevitable) will happen sooner than ten years.
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I'm not disagreeing with you, but if I remember correctly people said similar things when Phantom first came out. It was a quite a hit (in case nobody here has noticed) and it didn't get a film adaptation until 2004 and it didn't get a live recording until 2011. Granted Lin wants his work to be accessible to more people. Again, not disagreeing, just making a comparison.
Posted: 6/16/16 at 1:35pm
THIS IS THE GREATEST NEWS I'VE EVER HEARD I MAY CRY
a friend and I were talking yesterday, I think a movie may be made around 2040 right in time for the 25th anniversary.
Updated On: 6/16/16 at 01:35 PM
Posted: 6/16/16 at 1:51pm
Macavity- I think the difference between Hamilton and Phantom is that Hamilton's success has more to do with its social relevance. Phantom is a timeless love story with a score that wasn't in danger of feeling as dated as Hamilton's could become. I guess my feeling is that as huge hit as it is now, Hamilton likely has a shorter shelf life as a cultural event.
Even with that said, I have read Andrew Lloyd Weber state that in hindsight he wishes it hadn't taken so long for the Phantom film to be made; because he feels like it would've been a much more successful movie if they hadn't waited as long as they did.
Posted: 6/16/16 at 1:52pm
^ I believe you're ignoring reality with some deeply naive and wishful thinking.
Posted: 6/16/16 at 1:58pm
Meh. After yesterday's news...
Posted: 6/16/16 at 1:58pm
Liza, elaborate. You think I am naïve for thinking that Hamilton may have a cultural shelf life shorter than Phantom of the Opera?
Posted: 6/16/16 at 1:59pm
in what way will this music be dated 10 years from now...
Posted: 6/16/16 at 1:59pm
I do. I do, indeed. It will be a decade before anything sees the light of the day. Put money on it now.
Posted: 6/16/16 at 2:05pm
I'll split the difference with you and say seven years, and that's just for a movie. I'm not arguing the show will play on Broadway a decade or longer or that we might not see this OBC footage for ten.
I would just be very surprised if the people involved would want to wait until the materiall is completely dated before making a movie and capitalizing on that
Posted: 6/16/16 at 2:18pm
Then prepare to be surprised for much longer than seven years....
Posted: 6/16/16 at 2:21pm
I dont see how a score that takes from the, what, 35-40 year history of rap & hip-hop, along with more standard Broadway fare, girl group sound, and the King George British invasion songs is in any particular danger of becoming dated. There's nothing faddish about the score.
Updated On: 6/16/16 at 02:21 PM
Posted: 6/16/16 at 2:30pm
dramamama611 said: "They already HAVE footage for commercials. They have for quite a while.
I saw so much footage during the Charlie Rose 60 Minutes segment that aired right before the Tony Awards. So much pristine footage =( it will REALLY be the "Hamilton - 10 Year Anniversary" thread before we see any official footage in its entirety.
Posted: 6/16/16 at 2:31pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hadn't Brian d'Arcy James already left the show by the time they filmed Shrek and returned for the performances they shot?
They filmed Shrek before Brian left the show.
Posted: 6/16/16 at 2:34pm
fantastic news! i knew Lin and the other producers would capture this obc. I think they will release in theatres once its toured the US and maybe general release sometime later
agree with most this is likely not coming anytime soon.....
